Post Match NRL 2020 - Round 7 - Storm vs Warriors Post Match Discussion

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01 Jan 1970 12:00
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AlexM

AlexM

Hope Craig and Cameron where saying in the sheds ' it's Cool guys were gonna be your coach next year's
Or something
Anything

ANYTHING
 
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Weno

Weno

Hope Craig and Cameron where saying in the sheds ' it's Cool guys were gonna be your coach next year's
Or something
Anything

ANYTHING
My frame of mind after an ass whipping would be.
F@#k off.
Gave us an ass whipping.
Now you want to say how thankful you are.
Get the F@#k out.
Be more salt in the wounds no matter what they say for me.
Suck my got ass whipped nuts Wa@#ers.
 
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wizards rage

wizards rage

Not sure if exactly relatable, but you may find interesting anyway.


This was interesting:

“I jumped around in my coaching quite quickly and saw a lot. I’d go to one place and the team would never lose. And then I go to another place and do exactly the same thing and the team didn’t win. So I started to understand as a coach I had very little input on what was happening.”

I’ve coached a hockey team to win a competition and next year with different team fail miserably. You need the right players before a coach can make any difference. Good luck Todd...
 
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bruce

bruce

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Can't be any worse than this.
I think it can get worse, and not too far away.

How many times have we seen this team totally dominate another side, yet not finish scoring chances, than have a bit of a bad bounce and drop the lip. The defence goes to shite, along with the scoreboard.

Sadly there are some guys in this team with massive talent but no perseverance. Just grown up versions of brilliant athletic juniors who were flat track bullies and who cannot hack it with the grownups.

It must be clear to Robinson that he needs to invest very heavily in a junior program, and be patient. This bullshit of offering overs players is just claytons management.

I would rather watch young guys who can genuinely defend rather than this bunch. Peta Hiku is an attacking genius but his defence last night was just atrocious. Don't remind me about his big hit on Carr either. Big hits is worthless if you let in soft tries as well.

Rant over.
 
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warriors55

warriors55

As much as I don't think Todd Payten is the answer as our long term coach we are not going to see any changes to the performance for the rest of this season and that is no fault of his.

The team SK has assembled is rubbish. The game plan and tactics will takes months to change. SK has fu*cked this club for a couple of seasons I would imagine. I've accepted that and am prepared to wait.

Once we get a new coach he will need a couple of seasons to recruit better players, get rid of the dead wood and get us back on track.

Everyone that is saying that SK is not the problem because we got smashed even after he left is completely wrong.
 
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PNG Kiwi

Not surprised by the score, we just don't have the cattle.

I was passing through Hamilton and watched it at the Casino, and meet some Warriors supporters from Auckland whom I never meet before.

They had their Warriors tops on and very passionate, salt of the earth people.

All agreed SK had to go, but they were convinced Brown was plan B, that was why he was brought into the club.

Back to the game, reasonable start but our weaknesses soon exposed. No coach is going to fix that in the short term.
 
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warriors55

warriors55

Not surprised by the score, we just don't have the cattle.

I was passing through Hamilton and watched it at the Casino, and meet some Warriors supporters from Auckland whom I never meet before.

They had their Warriors tops on and very passionate, salt of the earth people.

All agreed SK had to go, but they were convinced Brown was plan B, that was why he was brought into the club.

Back to the game, reasonable start but our weaknesses soon exposed. No coach is going to fix that in the short term.

That seemed like the logical option. Would be interested to know the reasons why Payten was given the reins and not Brown.
 
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wizards rage

wizards rage

As much as I don't think Todd Payten is the answer as our long term coach we are not going to see any changes to the performance for the rest of this season and that is no fault of his.

The team SK has assembled is rubbish. The game plan and tactics will takes months to change. SK has fu*cked this club for a couple of seasons I would imagine. I've accepted that and am prepared to wait.

Once we get a new coach he will need a couple of seasons to recruit better players, get rid of the dead wood and get us back on track.

Everyone that is saying that SK is not the problem because we got smashed even after he left is completely wrong.
I would add you need a preseason to make significant changes to game plans, body shapes, tactics, etc. Todd is just shuffling the deck chairs at the moment.

Also there is something wrong with our training/ fitness with all the injuries. You can’t defend and form partnerships when there is a new guy next to you every other week. This is a significant contributing factor in our defence dropping off and our attack looking unorganised.
 
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Raw Power

Raw Power

As much as I don't think Todd Payten is the answer as our long term coach we are not going to see any changes to the performance for the rest of this season and that is no fault of his.

The team SK has assembled is rubbish. The game plan and tactics will takes months to change. SK has fu*cked this club for a couple of seasons I would imagine. I've accepted that and am prepared to wait.

Once we get a new coach he will need a couple of seasons to recruit better players, get rid of the dead wood and get us back on track.

Everyone that is saying that SK is not the problem because we got smashed even after he left is completely wrong.

Totally Agree!
This will take time and like Bruce has said already mentioned... some change in local development is drastically needed!
 
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Fearmuss

Fearmuss

Backs are too slow for any era of the NRL, Green isn’t a fast player and compounds their lack of speed.

was Tohu Harris actually playing on the edge?
 
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warriors55

warriors55

I would add you need a preseason to make significant changes to game plans, body shapes, tactics, etc. Todd is just shuffling the deck chairs at the moment.

Also there is something wrong with our training/ fitness with all the injuries. You can’t defend and form partnerships when there is a new guy next to you every other week. This is a significant contributing factor in our defence dropping off and our attack looking unorganised.

The injuries have definitely played a factor this season. I know at the start of the season a lot of us were looking forward to Twentyman bringing in some new training methods etc but don't know how that has worked out. Last season with Corvo we had the same issues.

Maybe it's just our club 😆
 
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warriors55

warriors55

Totally Agree!
This will take time and like Bruce has said already mentioned... some change in local development is drastically needed!

Exactly. The Blues being so successful this year shows us that with the right coaching setup and the right recruitment and development it is possible to dramatically turn things around.
 
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Rick O'Shay

Rick O'Shay

Didn't watch the game as I'd had a pretty good day and didn't want to spoil my night. Watched the highlights this am. Ugly.

With what's gone on over there since the Covid stuff, our lack of cattle and the SK coaching and playbook, I'm not surprised we get thrashed every week.

This team have been away from home and families for a long time, the majority of it in isolation.

Those guys who do FIFO will understand how difficult it is doing a 30 day hitch even if it is your job and a double or triple hitch (which the team is doing) would be a nightmare.

So, in my opinion, this was always going to fail because it's not sustainable. Add in all the injuries, suspensions, bad reffing and their only friend getting the boot. Perfect Storm, pardon the pun

And don't reply they should suck it up and move on, because it just ain't that easy once the already fragile mental state gets a final beating.

I can't foretell the future but one things for certain is that it'll be a long hard road to fix this shitfest

Side note: refreshing to see a warriors coach in the post match telling it like it is and being articulate.
 
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Fonzies Tram Line

Fonzies Tram Line

Notes from tonight after a lot of deep breathing and meditation:

Backline: Herbert once again filling in on the wing and doing a job, unlucky to not bag a couple of tries. At this point though, I think I'd prefer Pompey on the wing to Herbert, if we're filling gaps. Beale did okay but he's not getting any better and he absolutely cannot play wing. Pompey is unspectacular but it at least keeps one of our better prospects in his natural position. Hope Fusitua is ready for next week because we desperately lack a finisher on the right. Maumalo wasn't even close to fit this week; hopefully he'll be better for the run out. Rough night for Hiku but he's usually nowhere near that bad. Felt like Roger Tuivasa-Sheck was trying to do everything. I feel for him, and he leads by example, but it's starting to feel like he puts too much pressure on himself.

Halves: Kodi was awful. Did nothing on offence and killed us on defence. Finally got on the ball a little bit in the second half but he was going nowhere, and it was too little too late. If Payten is serious about his defence first attitude then he has to be dropped. Honestly, at this point, surely he has to be a serious question mark for next year. Yes, he was great against the Cowboys, but we've seen nothing even close to that in the last two games. Thought Green looked much better than he has in recent weeks; not saying much but it's something. Good to see Chanel Harris-Tavita again, but he is not a hooker. It's such a waste. Of all players, I thought we missed Egan a lot tonight, but do hope one of Lawton/Jazz is back next week so we have a bench option to switch things up. Chanel Harris-Tavita/Green in the halves please. Nikorima on the bench if Lawton isn't fit (and if he wants it).

Forwards: Big issues here. Only Harris (160m) and Papali'i (112m) broke 100m. Front row really needs to step things up. Back row looks pretty rough now too with Katoa out. Harris was pretty much our best (as always). Papali'i made a couple of bad mistakes that overshadowed an otherwise okay performance (compared to the rest). Murchie was better on defence this week, but he offers less than nothing in attack. Maybe he's better suited in the middle, but he's not a strong runner either. I'm struggling to see what he brings to the team. Curran did pretty okay on defence...but he played for 28 minutes and only managed two runs. He didn't see much of the ball, granted, but two runs? Given our options though, I'm not against seeing what he can do with a start. Not like we've got anything to lose.

Not many positives to take out of this one. Easy to compare to last week, but I thought this was much worse. We looked more fragile out there than we have previously this season, and I'd probably say this is our weakest performance of the year so far. Last week a couple of key calls went against us and then everything fell apart. This time, it's like we completely dropped our heads 20 minutes in. More errors, lower completion, plus we were given a bunch of penalties and did nothing with them. The team looks pretty shot, and I'm not sure what Payten's comments to the press will do to fix that, either. Going to be a bumpy ride ahead.
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Agree on most points,
except I actually liked Murchies carries, good drive with 2-3 players on him.
 
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Dunedin warrior

I thought there was some good stuff done by the forwards, I thought they held their own against the Melbourne pack and even had the edge early on.

The backs on the other hand were atrocious, that left hand side were as embarrassing as anything I have seen from a warriors defence. Hiku in particular needs a rocket and a spell in the bench.

Herbert tries hard but the two tries he blew showed he’s just not anywhere near being a 1st grade standard wing. When you have an attack as limited as ours you just can’t afford to blow 3-4 tries game.

The game against the Broncos is Payton’s 1st real test, I don’t think he could make any changes the 1st week in, but now has a license to. Looks like morale is low and I’d be impressed if he can
get them back up for a winnable game against the Broncos.
 
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Ref

Ref

How the hell did were the Storm not penalised for repeated :"six again" infringements.
If Cummins had nailed it early it may have stopped or ended up with guys in the bin.
No wonder they hadn't had a six again penalty against them for 120 minutes. the referees have stopped ruling it against them.

The Herbert "no try" is a try every other time and it even went upstairs as a try.

The Captains Challenge where we were alleged to have got a fingertip to the ball.
Fuck me, they have a couple of looks at it and Corey Parker I think is jizzing all over an invisible touch and deviation.

I also have concerns about our defence line being too narrow and the Storm exploited this.
 
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jonesy101

jonesy101

And don't reply they should suck it up and move on, because it just ain't that easy once the already fragile mental state gets a final beating.
Totally agree with your comment here. Payton looked shattered at the press conference and was close to tears. These guys are competing in one of the most physical and toughest sports out there at a massive disadvantage and don't deserve the vitriol about being so mentally weak under the weirdest of circumstances at the moment. Bellamy's comments put things into perspective well.
 
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