Post Match NRL 2020 - Round 14 - Warriors vs Panthers Post Match Discussion

[wrighty]

Point taken Wrighty, but Luai steps to the side of Kodi and as you say "shortens his stride." Why would he shorten his stride for any reason other than to deliberately step on Kodi's head? Luai could have continued to step around Kodi and avoid Kodi all together. He wasn't in contention for chasing down the kick through. I could understand the argument if there was some urgency in Luai trying to get to the ball and in doing so accidentally stepped on Kodi's head, but he was no where near the ball and had no urgency in getting to it.

Because if he hadn't have shortened his stride his heel would have partially clipped Kodis head and Jerome would have ended up landing awkwardly and rolling his ankle possibly spraining it.
Yes he chose to stand on Kodis head on purpose no question
But he did so out of self preservation to avoid landing awkwardly and not to hurt Kodi.

It was also happening very fast and instinctive so he might have mistakenly made a calculation.

 

[wrighty]

This article says the racism was extreme and over a continuous period

"The fans allegedly first abused Naden around the 20-metre line as Penrith attacked the Warriors. After seeing Naden point them out to trainer Hayden Knowles, the group allegedly followed the winger to the halfway mark where they continued. "

Cleary: Naden abuse wasn't isolated incident

Coach condemns racial abuse against Brent Naden.

www.nrl.com

 

[jonesy101]

Because if he hadn't have shortened his stride his heel would have partially clipped Kodis head and Jerome would have ended up landing awkwardly and rolling his ankle possibly spraining it.
Yes he chose to stand on Kodis head on purpose no question
But he did so out of self preservation to avoid landing awkwardly and not to hurt Kodi.

It was also happening very fast and instinctive so he might have mistakenly made a calculation.

Agree with this summation. After it happened he ran back to check on Kodi so don't think there was any intent to try and crush his head.

 

[jonesy101]

Was funny watching Finch up in the coaches box reacting to those perplexing officiating decisions last night. When he was a sideline commentator he used to get vocal with the calls that went against us. Pretty sure it was last year during one of our games that said they needed to blow up the bunker.

 

[Mr Dragon]

This article says the racism was extreme and over a continuous period

"The fans allegedly first abused Naden around the 20-metre line as Penrith attacked the Warriors. After seeing Naden point them out to trainer Hayden Knowles, the group allegedly followed the winger to the halfway mark where they continued. "

Cleary: Naden abuse wasn't isolated incident

Coach condemns racial abuse against Brent Naden.

www.nrl.com

What kind of racism was it. I hear some people think Covid-19 is racist because it turned up in South Auckland
If it was the N word, i hear that every day from kids.

 

[WellingtonOrca]

I thought we were much better when Egan came on.

Yeah i think he deserves more time out there - Lawton can tackle and run but his passes are so slow

 

[BiggerD]

Warriors consultant Brett Finch has been involved in a COVID breach after last nights game
What happens now. Will Warriors have to go into lock down for 2 weeks ?


The NRL is investigating a potential biosecurity breach involving league larrikin Brett Finch after photos emerged of him on social media drinking, smoking and even playfully kissing a friend a day before sitting in the Warriors' coaching box.

Finch, who was brought into the Warriors' biosecurity bubble last week by caretaker coach Todd Payten, appeared on the popular You Know The Rules podcast, which uploaded photos of him to Instagram on Thursday night.

Finch isolated as NRL probes another biosecurity breach

Photos emerged on social media of Brett Finch drinking, smoking and even playfully kissing a friend a day before sitting in the Warriors' coaching box.

www.smh.com.au

And Thursday night before the game

 

[Mr Dragon]

I knew things were going to well for the Warriors

 

[wrighty]

What kind of racism was it. I hear some people think Covid-19 is racist because it turned up in South Auckland
If it was the N word, i hear that every day from kids.

Whatever it was it was mean...this also from the article

"So he certainly took offence to it at the time but he's ok now. It's one of those situations I guess where you can only react to how you feel at the time. Whatever was said - and I don't know exactly what was said - definitely affected him."

I am saddened by humanity that this happened. And I don't want us to become desensitised to certain words because we hear them in rap songs or from youth.

 

[charlie bobmarley]

What kind of racism was it. I hear some people think Covid-19 is racist because it turned up in South Auckland
If it was the N word, i hear that every day from kids.

Well that’s all sorted now. Good work.

 

[jonesy101]

I still like the principle of the captains challenge which is to get rid of the howler, such as those crazy strip decisions we had to endure in the Eels game last year which it would have been perfect for.

But I don't like how the bunker is now overturning the on field decisions based on speculation. Shown at full speed when Papa was making the tackle on Edwards it looked innocuous with no deliberate kicking motion and Edwards had a duty of care to protect the ball.

With the following Hiku decision, the only frame that conclusively shows he had his hands on the ball along with a clear view of the positioning of his foot happens to show it was planted in the in-goal.

Penrith were well within their rights to challenge, but both referrals were late in the game speculators and the bunker should only be overturning the original decision if its 100% conclusive.

 

[wizards rage]

Because if he hadn't have shortened his stride his heel would have partially clipped Kodis head and Jerome would have ended up landing awkwardly and rolling his ankle possibly spraining it.
Yes he chose to stand on Kodis head on purpose no question
But he did so out of self preservation to avoid landing awkwardly and not to hurt Kodi.

It was also happening very fast and instinctive so he might have mistakenly made a calculation.

Completely disagree. Kodi came across and blocked him (legally) taking Jerome out of the chase. They clashed and when Kodi was sprawled Jerome had every chance to step anywhere but Kodis head but he instead extends his right leg out to enable himself to reach Kodis head.

Pissed off player making a really bad choice.

 

[Big_Fattz]

I still like the principle of the captains challenge which is to get rid of the howler, such as those crazy strip decisions we had to endure in the Eels game last year which it would have been perfect for.

But I don't like how the bunker is now overturning the on field decisions based on speculation. Shown at full speed when Papa was making the tackle on Edwards it looked innocuous with no deliberate kicking motion and Edwards had a duty of care to protect the ball.

With the following Hiku decision, the only frame that conclusively shows he had his hands on the ball along with a clear view of the positioning of his foot happens to show it was planted in the in-goal.

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Penrith were well within their rights to challenge, but both referrals were late in the game speculators and the bunker should only be overturning the original decision if its 100% conclusive.

Shouldn't he have to have some control of it? They went off the first touch of his fingertips

 

[Mr Dragon]

Well that’s all sorted now. Good work.

 

[playdaball]

Yeah i think he deserves more time out there - Lawton can tackle and run but his passes are so slow

Roache ticks all boxes. As I’ve said previously, if they’re not going to use him they should offer him to the Roosters as a loan player.

 

[Dixpat]

Agree with this summation. After it happened he ran back to check on Kodi so don't think there was any intent to try and crush his head.

Yeah right!

When it was shown on the big screen and the camera reverted to him he looked as guilty as sin

He knew what he was doing

It was deliberate

 

[Makasene]

I wonder how Roger Tuivasa-Sheck is feeling this morning? Not sure if it was just cramp but he could hardly walk toward the end of the game

Katoa and Harris too took some big knocks.

We should really knock the Dogs off next week but need the best team we can put on the park

 

[Billy Teets James]

Oh Yeah, looks like he lengthens his stride to actuallly hit him,

And look how he stomps down on his head. That's intentional.

 

[ShaunJohnson7]

Been thinking about what to say here. I just got to say I'm very happy and proud with the effort these guys are playing with, it impresses me more than any recent season including 2018.

These guys are up against a lot, if the whole isolation and being away from home thing was not enough they are up against the officiating pretty much every single week, I look forward to Gould having an impact here hopefully moving forward.

It's got to a point for me where I wasn't frustrated with the result last night, these guys are putting in the effort even when they are outmatched on paper. Even when players like Jazz who Im not a fan of are making crucial errors it's not bothering me like it did because collectively as a whole they are playing with pride which is all most of us have ever asked for and the responses on this thread indicate that.

The guys that went home, hey that's their right and I respect that, but they are not players I want here moving forward, someone like Fusitua was one of my favourite players a few seasons ago but the effort guys like Jennings are putting in for not even his own team in his stead speaks volumes.

Keep trucking on guys, I think you have won the respect of the vast majority of the posters here and that in itself is a victory moving forward as a club. There seems to be light at the end of the tunnel now and that's exciting.

P.S Please please resign Hiku and Herbert and keep them together on the right.

AK for Pompey and Alvarez out, thanks

 

[jsmooove]

I still like the principle of the captains challenge which is to get rid of the howler, such as those crazy strip decisions we had to endure in the Eels game last year which it would have been perfect for.

But I don't like how the bunker is now overturning the on field decisions based on speculation. Shown at full speed when Papa was making the tackle on Edwards it looked innocuous with no deliberate kicking motion and Edwards had a duty of care to protect the ball.

With the following Hiku decision, the only frame that conclusively shows he had his hands on the ball along with a clear view of the positioning of his foot happens to show it was planted in the in-goal.

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Penrith were well within their rights to challenge, but both referrals were late in the game speculators and the bunker should only be overturning the original decision if its 100% conclusive.

is it too much to ask for consistency? how often do you see that now go against the bloke playing the ball and called a loose carry but of course game in the balance the call was always going to go with the team higher on the ladder that in theory should win

the hiku one is a tough one. due to the ref blowing the whistle im surprised they didnt just say tackle 1 on the 1m line.