Team List NRL 2019 Round 11 - Warriors vs Broncos TEAM LIST

[FuNQie]

So basically anyone but Blair.... What happens if Blair comes out and has blinder? Will you still not want him selected?

We’ll see what happens. Obviously.
He’s like Issac Luke, isn’t he, in that he can play great in one or two games, and then slacken right off. Right?
Anyone “showing leadership” has to act the part in every match he plays. Especially if they’re on 650k.

 

[fizurg]

My mate over there, whatshisname.....he’s not played any league before, but I’m sure he’d be better. Seriously though....Satae, Pulu, I’m not too bothered which and I don’t know enough about them to argue their merits. But you know how it is, if a player is held back from FG and is then given a chance, they’ll make damned sure they put the effort in. eg. Mason Lino v the Roosters last year, playing out of his skin. Let’s give the guys a chance!

Edit: Pulu! Warriors official profile: “He started strongly for the Vodafone Warriors, appearing in each of the five straight wins to open the campaign but picked up a foot injury in the sixth round which has had him sidelined long-term.” I know, that form isn’t now, but then Blair’s playing on his reputation from 10 years ago, so definitely Pulu. Let’s give him a run now!

You realize Pulu has been dismal in reserve grade since coming back from this injury right?

 

[Dunedin warrior]

There’s a difference between Blair being massively overpaid and Blair not being able to fill in as a bench player.

He’s a good defender, puts great pressure on the kicker and has a decent offload. Unfortunately can’t carry the ball to save himself and a bit of a penalty magnet.

The only argument for Pulu seems to be that he’s not Adam Blair.

 

[warriors4eva]

I must be the only one that doesnt put issac luke in the same category as Blair !

Blair has been inconsistent if not lazy all year. He got his chance this week and being a warriors fan and wanting the team to win i hope he has a blinder

But Issac has been nowhere near as poor, he has played well in some games and when Kearney has subbed him the team has suffered ( bunnies game ). He hasnt had the form of last year yet, its only round 11, but neither has the team has a whole. Just my opinion before you jump all over me LMAO !!!

 

[Blain]

Although I hate to say it - With Paasi out we need Blairs defence this weekend. Someone like Satae would be a serious liability if they had to play decent minutes, especially against the Broncos large, mobile young forward pack. I think we need a grubby bastard like Blair to ruffle them up, and put pressure on Dearden.

Sub him in at prop to make tackles for the middle period of the game, and take a hit up only when guys are buggered.

Time for Blair to show us why he earns the big bucks..

 

[thebroverine]

How can only one come away with a win? Both can win...

Both can win but it won't happen. How much you wanna bet?

 

[ShaunJohnson7]

There’s a difference between Blair being massively overpaid and Blair not being able to fill in as a bench player.

He’s a good defender, puts great pressure on the kicker and has a decent offload. Unfortunately can’t carry the ball to save himself and a bit of a penalty magnet.

The only argument for Pulu seems to be that he’s not Adam Blair.

I dont think so, Pulu on the edges last year was better than anyone in our team not named Harris when he was fit and on the left.

If it came down to those 2 for an edge forward position I'd give Pulu a crack no question and I used to quite like Blair on the edge because of his offload but it doesnt mean a lot when you are no threat with ball in hand.

Blairs only suited to the middle now where he can defend, pressure and offload to create 2nd phase a bit. Pulu for the edge, especially left.

 

[Beastmode]

If you are reporting that you have heard John Wright was mentally weak (my avatar) then I disagree with those reports.

He averaged around 37 as an opener which lists him amongst the greatest and best openers we have ever had in test match cricket. Also consider that he played in the 1980s which is generally considered to have been the hardest decade to bat in the history of test cricket.
1) non neutral umpires
2) the West Indies in their pomp with no restrictions on the number of bouncers they could bowl per over
3) Imran Khan, Botham, Kapil Dev, Willis in their hey day would go on to take 300 plus wickets each
4) sporting wickets rather than the roads that permeate today's test cricket.

Also according to my own stats analysis you can add 5 runs to an opening batsman's average and that is what he would achieve if he hid down the order at number 4 or 5. Facing the new ball leads to you getting nicked off early doors plenty of time to unplayable peaches in the corridoor.

Had John Wright played in today's era he would average about 45 even as a opener.

He is a candidate for and permanently in the discussion for New Zealand's all time great test team. But most would pick Richardson and Turner ahead of him.
I would pick him ahead of Richardson.

Anyway this is a league forum but note my dissension to claims John Wright was weak mentally. Watching him bat and mutter "Watch the ball" before every delivery and grit his teeth suggest he was quite the opposite. Limited on technique and available shots to play but high on determination.

I was a John Wright fan.

Terrible one day player but loved his blocking technique.

 

[bruce]

and who would you have picked instead?

Another forward from ISP

I've never understood cats who hate on players aye

Disappointment, anger, frustration etc I get … but actual hate ??? … nope … don't get it ... at all ... seems mentally weak to my mind, but that's just me

Also, as much as some seem to be getting off on shitting all over Adam Blair I see it differently

Blair has been plying his trade in the NRL for well over a decade, so if he is so fuck'n useless how did he achieve this ???

Is Blair a fuck'n master coach whisperer or some kinda shit ??? lol

He's also been a loyal servant to the Kiwi's with all but 50 caps to his credit & has been an integral part of some of the Kiwis most historic victories

Some of you keyboard warriors need to stop talking so much utter shite & learn how to show a bit of motherfuck'n respect aye

I'm not a Blair fanboy by any stretch of the imagination, but I do highly respect what he has achieved in the game, most especially with the Kiwis

Also, for those of you who are basically saying he's always been useless I say to you stfu because you have absolutely no idea what you are fuck'n talking about

Is Blair going through a poor patch of form ???

Was his demotion warranted ???

Sure … but the worst / most over rated / over paid player we've ever signed ???

Fuck No !!! … not even close ... that distinction lies with Sam Tomkins & Sam Tomkins alone

And I'll argue that point with anyone until the moon turns green, pigs fly & or the Warriors have won a premiership lol

Criticism I get, but hateful personal insults … meh … if you really feel that strongly about it … go say it to the mans face

He can't hit you or he'll lose his contract & be arrested (if you're a pussy & call the cops that is) in other words he probably has more to lose

Weak as fuck IMO … rant over

Blair is on way more than the Prime Minister, and probably more than the Prime Minister of Australia as well. That sort of money demands performance. The club and the fans are not getting, but he is getting over $3 million over 4 years to feather his next egg.

Any shite he gets about his perfomance is deserved, he has admitted as such, but WTF has he done about it?

The one area I worried when Blair was dropped is his communication in Defence.

You cannot lose Shaun Johnson Blair and Luke's directing the others and expect the team to do much more than tackle ok in spurts.

That's the invisible factor, their experience and their guidance. Otherwise you end up with a lot of individuals in an exercise that requires talk talk talk.

Best case Blair comes back with a new lease of life.

Unfortunately I suspect SK after the Eels players turned on him, was forced to have someone like Blair to be his advocate in the playing group.

Good post bro. That would explain a lot of things, especially why this club hasn't performed.

I posted after the Melbourne game how Blair saved an almost certain try (almost certain because it was way upfield) when that cunning shite Smith almost broke the line with plenty of support, Blair saw it and grabbed him by the collar pulling him to the ground. It took good anticipation to be there.

I don't deny the guy has ability, but on that salary no bloody way. Maybe at Melbourne where everybody had their job to do and he was left to do his so called 1% and tidy up, but it didn't work at the Tigers and I think it was wearing off at the Broncos as well when Bennett let him go, after screwing the Warriors on the price along the way.

Now a question for you oh wise one, if SK really needs that sort of support, is there a future for him at this club?

My guess is no bloody way, and Smith has told him so. Chris Rattue hasn't got that much influence. SK has probably been made aware that Blair is placing his head on the block.

 

[Gizzyfan]

I was a John Wright fan.

Terrible one day player but loved his blocking technique.

Great player, good bloke universally liked. In test mat hes only had to walk onto the park to get whites grass stained.

 

[roadrunner]

yea like alot of you guys I was hoping Blair wasn't playing he just reminds me so much of Mateo in the sense that you never knew which version was going to turn up. It was either the game breaker or the lazy high paid one just standing out the back. I hope he proves me wrong.

 

[TripleL]

This is going to be unpopular but I could see Blair starting and Bunty coming off the bench. This is to balance the side and obviously not a reflection of form. Neither Sao nor Blair provides much impact running the ball and Blair’s defence could be important in the early exchanges.

At the moment Jazz looks like the most effective runner on the bench, that’s not a good thing (and I’m a Jazz fan).

 

[Sup42]

Another forward from ISP

Blair is on way more than the Prime Minister, and probably more than the Prime Minister of Australia as well. That sort of money demands performance. The club and the fans are not getting, but he is getting over $3 million over 4 years to feather his next egg.

Any shite he gets about his perfomance is deserved, he has admitted as such, but WTF has he done about it?

Good post bro. That would explain a lot of things, especially why this club hasn't performed.

I posted after the Melbourne game how Blair saved an almost certain try (almost certain because it was way upfield) when that cunning shite Smith almost broke the line with plenty of support, Blair saw it and grabbed him by the collar pulling him to the ground. It took good anticipation to be there.

I don't deny the guy has ability, but on that salary no bloody way. Maybe at Melbourne where everybody had their job to do and he was left to do his so called 1% and tidy up, but it didn't work at the Tigers and I think it was wearing off at the Broncos as well when Bennett let him go, after screwing the Warriors on the price along the way.

Now a question for you oh wise one, if SK really needs that sort of support, is there a future for him at this club?

My guess is no bloody way, and Smith has told him so. Chris Rattue hasn't got that much influence. SK has probably been made aware that Blair is placing his head on the block.

I would hazard a guess that Coaches relying on Loyalty and role modelling from a senior player to advocate for them is not unique, however the problem with choosing Blair is you have gambled on an older guy being able to hold his spot in the side for three or more years in this case,

We all know SK is big on the loyalty thing, a long standing thing he has done with the Kiwis etc.

I think he made some progress by dropping Blair, and that shouldnt necessarily be the end of the story for Blair from here.

 

[Ref]

If you are reporting that you have heard John Wright was mentally weak (my avatar) then I disagree with those reports.

He averaged around 37 as an opener which lists him amongst the greatest and best openers we have ever had in test match cricket. Also consider that he played in the 1980s which is generally considered to have been the hardest decade to bat in the history of test cricket.
1) non neutral umpires
2) the West Indies in their pomp with no restrictions on the number of bouncers they could bowl per over
3) Imran Khan, Botham, Kapil Dev, Willis in their hey day would go on to take 300 plus wickets each
4) sporting wickets rather than the roads that permeate today's test cricket.

Also according to my own stats analysis you can add 5 runs to an opening batsman's average and that is what he would achieve if he hid down the order at number 4 or 5. Facing the new ball leads to you getting nicked off early doors plenty of time to unplayable peaches in the corridoor.

Had John Wright played in today's era he would average about 45 even as a opener.

He is a candidate for and permanently in the discussion for New Zealand's all time great test team. But most would pick Richardson and Turner ahead of him.
I would pick him ahead of Richardson.

Anyway this is a league forum but note my dissension to claims John Wright was weak mentally. Watching him bat and mutter "Watch the ball" before every delivery and grit his teeth suggest he was quite the opposite. Limited on technique and available shots to play but high on determination.

Turner and Bert Sutcliffe would be mine.

 

[Ever Hopeful]

I hope we have done some proactive planning around Haas and TPJ (got a few other pretty handy forwards too mind you).

The aim surely would be to hold on to as much ball as possible when they are on the field (a good kicking game is huge here) to ensure their minutes are used defending. The motor of TPJ is questionable, and defence when under fatigue is relatively weak. He is not a well-rounded player by any means at this stage of his career. Kodi and Roger Tuivasa-Sheck could give him a few nightmares, and if we have a platform (unlikely), Jazz too.

Sadly I think this is a game where we are doomed if we get a string of early penalties against us. They are too big and mobile, and once unleashed we'll be permanently on the back foot, rattled and fatigued.

My gut is telling me no win this week

 

[ShaunJohnson7]

Heyzeuss spare me.

You guys missed my point. The post was about high skill level combined with weak mentality, in relation to our team. The first example was Michael Campbell, an amazing talented golfer but with weak mentality. However he was so good he won the US Open, that is like winning 10 GFs in a row, and then some.

Our unnamed poster scored some amazing innings, when he felt like it, and some of them were in very difficult circumstances, but he was no Glenn Turner or Bevan Congdon who were as tough as they come, and heyzeuss spare me I would like to see Congdon (RIP) go toe to toe with Brian Smith. I remember one dry Pom commentator saying about Congdon, he does have a weak point, when he is on 170!!!!

Now before I get banned, back to topic, if SK has this team rid of the dropped lips (some of which he has, two suspects are not playing this week), and Blair decides to pull finger (which I think he will) this could be a very good win, but there is still a lot of work to be done with the overall mentality, maybe including the coach.

Glen Turners biggest weakness was express fast bowling because he was quite simply timid when it came to playing the speedsters.

Wright had to face some truely terrifying attacks in the 80s how was Turner or Congdon tougher mentally than Wright? Wright was literally known for putting his body on the line everytime he went out to bat for his country. Couragious is a good term for him.

Wouldnt want Turner in an all time team playing against other all time teams he would get exposed.

 

[bruce]

I would hazard a guess that Coaches relying on Loyalty and role modelling from a senior player to advocate for them is not unique, however the problem with choosing Blair is you have gambled on an older guy being able to hold his spot in the side for three or more years in this case,

We all know SK is big on the loyalty thing, a long standing thing he has done with the Kiwis etc.

I think he made some progress by dropping Blair, and that shouldnt necessarily be the end of the story for Blair from here.

I agree with all of what you say except I just cannot imagine Wayne Bennett playing that game. His mantra was the coach had to run the show, right to the front office, and if he couldn't he wouldn't take the job e.g.; the Roosters. So SK didn't learn that trick from him.

Bellyache apparently relied heavily on Cronk, Smith and Slater, but from all account was still DA BOSS big time .

If your "role model" cannot hold his place in the team, he is no role model at all, just the opposite. Hence my concern and I bet that of Smith that we might have two more years of this shite. The comparisons with Bully are not quite the same. Bully on his day is the best in the business, including Cameron Smith. Bully's problem is consistency. Blair

Glen Turners biggest weakness was express fast bowling because he was quite simply timid when it came to playing the speedsters.

Wright had to face some truely terrifying attacks in the 80s how was Turner or Congdon tougher mentally than Wright? Wright was literally known for putting his body on the line everytime he went out to bat for his country. Couragious is a good term for him.

Wouldnt want Turner in an all time team playing against other all time teams he would get exposed.

Off topic. You need to find another thread bro. We can carry on there.

 

[bruce]

My gut is telling me no win this week

Sir Peter Leitch says never bet on the Warriors, either way.

 

[ShaunJohnson7]

I agree with all of what you say except I just cannot imagine Wayne Bennett playing that game. His mantra was the coach had to run the show, right to the front office, and if he couldn't he wouldn't take the job e.g.; the Roosters. So SK didn't learn that trick from him.

Bellyache apparently relied heavily on Cronk, Smith and Slater, but from all account was still DA BOSS big time .

If your "role model" cannot hold his place in the team, he is no role model at all, just the opposite. Hence my concern and I bet that of Smith that we might have two more years of this shite. The comparisons with Bully are not quite the same. Bully on his day is the best in the business, including Cameron Smith. Bully's problem is consistency. Blair

Off topic. You need to find another thread bro. We can carry on there.

Stop winding me up with that rubbish then

 

[Run_it_str8]

So have we accepted Passi’s suspension or is that fight still to happen ??

He gone