Post Match NRL 2019 - Round 11 - Warriors vs Broncos Post Match Discussion

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01 Jan 1970 12:00
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Rate the game.

  • A+

    Votes: 3 2.8%
  • A

    Votes: 4 3.7%
  • B

    Votes: 46 42.2%
  • C

    Votes: 43 39.4%
  • F-

    Votes: 13 11.9%

  • Total voters
    109
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13. New Zealand Warriors (12)
This is pretty much what I expected of the Warriors. They're just so inconsistent and not really sure of the style of footy they want to play. They put themselves in a fantastic situation by winning two on the road and then just go and let themselves down at home.


The only positive I would add is that they could have let themselves down a lot worse!! Only a losing margin of 6. :)
 

bruce

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By the same "logic", last night also highlighted that we are missing Kata on offence.
Heyzeuss spare me, there should be a forum ban on drinking Rebel Yell :rolleyes:
The attack on the other hand was piss poor,
A glass half full poster eh? Mate it was diabolical, and mainly due to Green.

The season is almost stuffed, why not give Chanel Harris-Tavita and Kodi the reins for a couple of games and give Green a well earned rest to get over his groin injury. If it turns to custard what have we lost? Also, and I hate to say it, but the Warriors were always the club that never died wondering on attack, WTF has changed that.
 

bruce

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There’s an article available on the NZ Herald online by Chris Rattue titled something like “where did it go so wrong for Warriors and Blues”. But it’s on the other side of their paywall. Anyone wanna post it here? (Assuming that’s allowed)
Chris Rattue: Will there ever be respite for Auckland league and rugby fans?

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Where did the Auckland football codes go so wrong?

And will their fans ever catch a decent break?

That's all you could ask, once again, as the Blues and Warriors floundered with insipid displays in the latest round of Super Rugby and NRL games.

In one of the worst New Zealand derby games I've seen for a long time, the Crusaders went through the motions and demolished the Blues by far more than the 19–11 scoreline suggested in Christchurch.

The points margin was small, but the quality margin was so great that you could have enacted a mercy rule at halftime.

Wracked by controversies and drained after travelling back from Cape Town, the Crusaders swarmed all over the Blues from the outset. The Blues scrum was a mess.

Yet the Crusaders were hardly sharp, their vaunted inside back combination of Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty and Jack Goodhue lame on attack despite being on the front foot.

Even their lineout faltered in the hands of a new hooker.

Yet at no point, even when the scores were close, did it cross anybody's mind that the Blues could win.

For a province that was once the powerhouse of world rugby, it was humiliating.

And the Warriors looked like tired, over-trained circus animals against the Broncos, once they were robbed of the unique skills that Jazz Tevaga brings.

Tevaga represents what football in Auckland should be all about.

Tevaga plays with a joy and unique inventiveness. Defences are confused the moment he joins the fray from his specialist interchange position.

He seems unaffected by the scoreboard, the situation of the game. His 35th minute ankle injury extinguished what was a barely discernible Warriors flame.
The scant hope generated by wins over the Dragons and Panthers evaporated. Blake Green made a few dabs, but Kodi Nikorima - the great new attacking hope - appeared daunted.

Like the Blues, every step forward is followed by a few slightly backwards.

You could only laugh when Warriors coach Steve Kearney claimed "we created enough opportunities". The Warriors created virtually nothing in front of their home crowd after two good wins in Australia.

Go figure that out and good luck to you.

I've given up trying to come up with answers.

Except to say that in the latest NRL players' poll, three of the highest rated forwards are Jason Taumalolo, Sio Siua Taukeiaho and Jesse Bromwich.

All were brought up playing league in Auckland (Taukeiaho was even on the Warriors books) yet all were snared and honed by Aussie clubs.

Call it the Sonny Bill Williams syndrome.

There is the highest quality raw league talent in Auckland, and for 25 years it has been going astray or away.
 
Chris Rattue: Will there ever be respite for Auckland league and rugby fans?

COMMENT

Where did the Auckland football codes go so wrong?

And will their fans ever catch a decent break?

That's all you could ask, once again, as the Blues and Warriors floundered with insipid displays in the latest round of Super Rugby and NRL games.

In one of the worst New Zealand derby games I've seen for a long time, the Crusaders went through the motions and demolished the Blues by far more than the 19–11 scoreline suggested in Christchurch.

The points margin was small, but the quality margin was so great that you could have enacted a mercy rule at halftime.

Wracked by controversies and drained after travelling back from Cape Town, the Crusaders swarmed all over the Blues from the outset. The Blues scrum was a mess.

Yet the Crusaders were hardly sharp, their vaunted inside back combination of Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty and Jack Goodhue lame on attack despite being on the front foot.

Even their lineout faltered in the hands of a new hooker.

Yet at no point, even when the scores were close, did it cross anybody's mind that the Blues could win.

For a province that was once the powerhouse of world rugby, it was humiliating.

And the Warriors looked like tired, over-trained circus animals against the Broncos, once they were robbed of the unique skills that Jazz Tevaga brings.

Tevaga represents what football in Auckland should be all about.

Tevaga plays with a joy and unique inventiveness. Defences are confused the moment he joins the fray from his specialist interchange position.

He seems unaffected by the scoreboard, the situation of the game. His 35th minute ankle injury extinguished what was a barely discernible Warriors flame.
The scant hope generated by wins over the Dragons and Panthers evaporated. Blake Green made a few dabs, but Kodi Nikorima - the great new attacking hope - appeared daunted.

Like the Blues, every step forward is followed by a few slightly backwards.

You could only laugh when Warriors coach Steve Kearney claimed "we created enough opportunities". The Warriors created virtually nothing in front of their home crowd after two good wins in Australia.

Go figure that out and good luck to you.

I've given up trying to come up with answers.

Except to say that in the latest NRL players' poll, three of the highest rated forwards are Jason Taumalolo, Sio Siua Taukeiaho and Jesse Bromwich.

All were brought up playing league in Auckland (Taukeiaho was even on the Warriors books) yet all were snared and honed by Aussie clubs.

Call it the Sonny Bill Williams syndrome.

There is the highest quality raw league talent in Auckland, and for 25 years it has been going astray or away.
Wow Chris tell us something we don't already know. I would reckon that Kiwis playing for most other NRL clubs would figure prominently in there top 5 players.
 
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bruce

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Wow Chris tell us something we don't already know. I would reckon that Kiwis playing for most other NRL clubs would figure in prominently in there top 5 players.
I remember hearing from somewhere last week that there are MORE Kiwis playing in the NRL than NSW players. I find that hard to believe, but maybe they are talking about either City or Country players, maybe the latter.
 
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Mind you what are we expecting him to say, that we are hopeless and have no idea. Yes Storm are a very god team, something we're not !
"We have a lot to work on, as individuals and a team we need to use this bye fortnight to sharpen up" would have done it nicely
 
i know what you are saying but Cronulla waited 50 years to win a ring, does that just mean we have to wait another 25 !! arrrghhhhhh
yea I know I was just blowing off some fan pressure. Games like Broncos are the games we should have won and bank 2 points and like others have said we spend so much time kicking in the hope that's the answer. So much individual talent in the team which means zero if they can't play for each other week in week out.Maybe the Storm game in 12 days defines their season. My body and mind are just hanging on life support, got 12 days to recover.
 
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Shit thats good news, I could live that long. The way I feel now if you asked if I would take a guaranteed ring in 2044 if it meant you got nothing until then I would say "hell yeah".
Classic fool's bargain. When I get to the crossroads I'll be choosing all the trophies coming our way in the next few years when the Process comes true. If I don't die of boredom from watching our attack first.
 
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Chris Rattue: Will there ever be respite for Auckland league and rugby fans?

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The scant hope generated by wins over the Dragons and Panthers evaporated. Blake Green made a few dabs, but Kodi Nikorima - the great new attacking hope - appeared daunted.

Like the Blues, every step forward is followed by a few slightly backwards.

You could only laugh when Warriors coach Steve Kearney claimed "we created enough opportunities". The Warriors created virtually nothing in front of their home crowd after two good wins in Australia.

Go figure that out and good luck to you.

I've given up trying to come up with answers.
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Thanks for posting this, Bruce. I appreciate it.

I like Chris Rattue all of a sudden. He’s telling it like it is, first about Adam Blair and now the piece above.

People sit up and take notice when he sounds off and right now it looks like he has it in for Stephen Kearney.
 
Disappointing loss but one that's a bit easier to cop.
I thought the effort was there all night, sure we couldn't break through but we didn't drop our bundle.

Sometime within the first twenty minutes the commentators mentioned that we had the best attack in the comp inside the opposition 20m zone. (Least amount of tackles to score). A stat I believe. So while our attack was no good, I don't think we can throw too much shade. The broncos defence was strong. We have scored points every other week.

Greens kicking is still horrible and to me is our main concern in attack, as well as getting out of trouble. The best thing I can say about our kicking game is that we at least tried a few different things besides bombing into the middle of nowhere. We still haven't kicked to Fusitua... the best winger in the air in the game.

Not having Paasi hurt and then losing Jazz compounded that. Meant leaving Blair out there for longer which weakens our go forward, which weakens our attack, which is all we were doing for majority of the game.
Roger Tuivasa-Sheck had an odd poor game, looks like he might be trying a little bit too hard.

Probably the most disappointing aspect of the game was Sao's penalties and his unfortunate miss on Milford. I think the guy brings a lot to the footy team, but we cant give dumbass penalties away. And it may just be the reason SK hasn't and doesn't play him. I just hope it doesn't cost him his spot, I think theres more value in him then Blair.
 
I was at the game and haven't watched a replay but I thought I saw Roger miss Milford when he scored and thought he had a good shot at him and shouold have made the tackle or at least made a better attempt but everything I read here is it was all Sao. The try was at the other end from me so could be wrong?
 
I was at the game and haven't watched a replay but I thought I saw Roger miss Milford when he scored and thought he had a good shot at him and shouold have made the tackle or at least made a better attempt but everything I read here is it was all Sao. The try was at the other end from me so could be wrong?

Sao copped a bit of blame including for some penalties, but to be honest the penalties were part of the square up - they were coming no matter what.

I didn't think the try was competely his fault tbh as the markers didn't slide, and roger left the gap to begin with, Papali'i was walking from marker etc.
 

wrighty

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I was at the game and haven't watched a replay but I thought I saw Roger miss Milford when he scored and thought he had a good shot at him and shouold have made the tackle or at least made a better attempt but everything I read here is it was all Sao. The try was at the other end from me so could be wrong?

He duked Sao and went into a hole between Sao and someone flying across trying to help (I presume Roger)

Why we had one fucker defending the whole entire ruck area was dumb anyway. Sao got hung out to dry by the commentators who criticised him something fierce.
"Sao should have been square on to Milford" etc etc