Post Match NRL 2018 - Round 8 - Storm vs Warriors Post Match Discussion

[matiunz]

Technically our win against the bunnies in Perth was after 9pm, but the team had been in Perth for over a week, giving them ample time to adjust to the time zone.

Can’t put ‘technicalities’ on to suit your argument bud

 

[jonno]

Can’t put ‘technicalities’ on to suit your argument bud

Me thinks you're just jealous you didn't spot the milk and cookies at bed time hoodoo...

 

[matiunz]

Me thinks you're just jealous you didn't spot the milk and cookies at bed time hoodoo...

You got me lol- maybe they just need to have milk and cookies pre late games?

 

[Jaka]

Well said. Bellamy had figured a plan and it worked - with the bounce of the ball maybe a bit better than it deserved but still a good, winning plan.

And I agree about short turnarounds - these are pro athletes, and in our case fitter than they've ever been, so I don't think it was the big factor.

Plus as everyone has said, the injuries. In particular we missed Issac's direction and option taking. And while I thought we'd got enough strength in depth in the forwards, after some really good recruitments and lettings-go, I think we've found out that we're still just a tad light with Harris, Pulu and Gavet out (personally I think Gavet adds a lot to our oomph up front). Bunty is high energy, and Papali'i is good, but we need a bit more than Vete or Lisone.

And like most of us I'm still optimistic despite the result. We happened to hit the Storm on one of their best days; we're still 6 -2; we know this year's team is way better than the past few years. We'll come good.

I hope Kearney runs with the idea of Lino as hooker: despite last night Lino has been a revelation this season and deserves to be in the run-on team somewhere, and he's got great acceleration for Luke-style darts out of dummy half.

One last thing: I wonder if the whole Anzac thing, darkened stadiums, all the rest of it, played with our guys' heads? Shouldn't, but a lot of times teams (not just us, and not just league either) let the atmosphere of Anzac, someone's 200th game, some other milestone, get in the way of playing the game in front of you...

You have taken the words from my mouth my brother.With the muscle coming back including Beale im quietly confident but we should also take those Storm attacking plays and incorperate them into ours.That side to side kicking and play is something we need to be aware of and also execute ourselves

 

[SPJ]

Just had a proper watch after turning it off by half time. The first half blitz was too much for us coming off the short turn around and the injuries that we carried to the field (ie Papalii's/Paasi's right knees, Luke busted 12 minutes in) didn't help either. Not to mention, the Storm were on and they executed their simple flat and wide game plan almost perfectly. As previously mentioned, our edges got picked apart viciously with the inside not covering and the outside not jamming.

1st try - freaky, but it was directly from the field position gained from Hiku being turned inside out by Scott
2nd try - Wicked bounce for Fusitua and Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
3rd try - Mannering left vulnerable as inside was already beat and Lino needed to jam up the second rower with his inside shoulder but instead went out to try cover his lack of pace against Billy leaving a gaping hole
4th - Lino exposed for his lack of pace again (speed coach maybe?)
5th - Good umbrella defense by edges on the play before but Storm stacked the short side to our 3/4 defenders and inside defence didn't cover. Was always gonna be 1 result
6th - Vete's slow lateral movement and Blair and Green puffed and off he's gone.
7th - Fusitua unaware of Addo-Carrs width
8th - Tevaga covering Kasiano and Slater after playing big minutes and misses

The boys heads are in it this year no doubt and Kearney has them playing a threatening free flowing game. They came out playing well in the second half, unlike previous years gone by, but the damage was already done. Looking forward to our edges going back to normal but the boys need to switch on and compress and cover in defense or atleast jam up the edges. Lisone needs to change it up or get dropped against these top teams because he keeps getting figured out by them (loses contact way too often for a prop).

 

[gREVUS]

Just had a proper watch after turning it off by half time. The first half blitz was too much for us coming off the short turn around and the injuries that we carried to the field (ie Papalii's/Paasi's right knees, Luke busted 12 minutes in) didn't help either. Not to mention, the Storm were on and they executed their simple flat and wide game plan almost perfectly. As previously mentioned, our edges got picked apart viciously with the inside not covering and the outside not jamming.

1st try - freaky, but it was directly from the field position gained from Hiku being turned inside out by Scott
2nd try - Wicked bounce for Fusitua and Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
3rd try - Mannering left vulnerable as inside was already beat and Lino needed to jam up the second rower with his inside shoulder but instead went out to try cover his lack of pace against Billy leaving a gaping hole
4th - Lino exposed for his lack of pace again (speed coach maybe?)
5th - Good umbrella defense by edges on the play before but Storm stacked the short side to our 3/4 defenders and inside defence didn't cover. Was always gonna be 1 result
6th - Vete's slow lateral movement and Blair and Green puffed and off he's gone.
7th - Fusitua unaware of Addo-Carrs width
8th - Tevaga covering Kasiano and Slater after playing big minutes and misses

The boys heads are in it this year no doubt and Kearney has them playing a threatening free flowing game. They came out playing well in the second half, unlike previous years gone by, but the damage was already done. Looking forward to our edges going back to normal but the boys need to switch on and compress and cover in defense or atleast jam up the edges. Lisone needs to change it up or get dropped against these top teams because he keeps getting figured out by them (loses contact way too often for a prop).

I was watching Lino in the second half and he showed plenty of pace on attack as well as a move or two, was it slow or avoidance?

Honestly not sure i could take watching it again.

 

[SPJ]

I was watching Lino in the second half and he showed plenty of pace on attack as well as a move or two, was it slow or avoidance?

Honestly not sure i could take watching it again.

I noticed that as well. I think as a half, you have to route-learn footwork to skip to the outside of your man (or expose weak inside coverage and step back in) to create space for your runners and that's what he's doing well now. He looks good on attack but he's been burned on the outside multiple times in defence, especially in previous years where he covered for injuries. He looked like he was scared of Billy burning him and ran up and out to anticipate his sweeping run.
It was a tough watch no doubt.

 

[AlexM]

I was watching Lino in the second half and he showed plenty of pace on attack as well as a move or two, was it slow or avoidance?

Honestly not sure i could take watching it again.

I've just got the game V the Dragons on repeat. Wednesday never happened lok

 

[Run_it_str8]

Maybe we could go over earlier next time it's a late game and practice at kick off time for 2 nights before gameday.

I'm great at ideas nobody likes.

I'm also great at off topic shit too.

 

[matiunz]

Maybe we could go over earlier next time it's a late game and practice at kick off time for 2 nights before gameday.

I'm great at ideas nobody likes.

I'm also great at off topic shit too.

Seemed to work for Perth right? Maybe go over straight after the Dragons game, plenty of time at home before the Tigers game

 

[warriors4eva]

this game was 5 days ago, can we delete this horrible day please LOL !!

Bring on the tigers !

 

[diehard]

Can anyone give me a link on the stats for missed tackles, errors, etc. this year, and for the Storm game, for each player? nrl.com used to list these, but doesn't anymore.

Many thanks.

 

[Super Freak]

Can anyone give me a link on the stats for missed tackles, errors, etc. this year, and for the Storm game, for each player? nrl.com used to list these, but doesn't anymore.

Many thanks.

https://mc.championdata.com/nrl/

That site goes back as far as 2014.

 

[diehard]

Thank You! Interestingly, Hiku only missed one tackle out of 17.

 

[mt.wellington]

Thank You! Interestingly, Hiku only missed one tackle out of 17.

They don't count tackling ghosts or thin air...

 

[Run_it_str8]

They don't count tackling ghosts or thin air...

What about grass? We tackled every blade at Aami stadium.