Post Match NRL 2018 - Round 21 - Dragons vs Warriors Post Match Discussion

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01 Jan 1970 12:00
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What I noticed about the warriors defence yesterday was how the third man was involved. He was there to basically put him on their back. By rolling back (think German Suplex) and the commentary team was bitchin and moaning about it. Slow the play the ball. It stop their offload game to an extent. It was just unfortunate that Vaughan (almost Widdop) got injured using this technique. I hope they keep this up.

Melbourne Storm 101.

Its how the Storm killed us a few weeks back with their third man in - basically the ball carrier gets tackled, then tackled again....how they got away with it especially as that was the week the NRL came out with the we'll be cracking down on the "slowing the play the ball" was a joke.

Nice to see we're finally picking it up....then again i was waiting for us to get pinged out of the game for it....pleasantly surprised we werent tbh.
 
I can't work out why we've gone away from our right edge on attack so much. Even when Tohu Harris was fit, Shaun Johnson would often take the ball down the right and throw a cut out pass to Hiku or Fusitua. I don't understand why that play seems to have totally dried up....

Can you put it down to a personnel change? Start of the season that Shaun Johnson/Tohu Harris/Hiku/Fusitua side was almost seamless when they shifted the ball.

Maybe it'll take a bit of time for the guys they've had replacing Tohu Harris and Hiku to find the same lines and timing.....it is noticeable tho Shaun Johnson is sweeping around to the left a lot more on the 2nd man plays (not a bad thing him popping up both sides of the park)

2nd week now Beale has kicked close to the line.....Fusitua only needs half an oppertunity, rather he pass it, at worst the opposition are still rucking it off their line.

Tbh what im also noticeing with that right side is how much their jamming in on D defending their line. Worked for them yesterday but damn it scares the shit out of me as you can see the space open up for the opposition if they dont nail it.
 
Fusitua committed 4 errors in total and if he didn't commit any then maybe we win that game 18-0.

The 4th error in my view was competing with Shek for the final catch of the game. I thought I spotted a little knock on between the two players so that could have been the losing of the game.

I hypothesise that the reason he got over enthusiastic and took those risks is that he hasn't seen much pill recently so he felt like he wanted to make something happen himself.

When a player is self destructing like that the captain must go and talk to him. Instead various warriors walked over and gave him a thumbs up.

His actions nearly cost us 18 points had Roger Tuivasa-Sheck not miraculously not saved a try by dislodging the ball from a St George players hands.

I was livid with David at one point and I hope he settles down after this outburst of mistakes.
It was the right thing to do to take that last bomb. He needed to regain his composure and his confidence in that game, or risk brooding on it for a week and suffering for it. I commend him for that decision. He has become such a world class winger, its a shame, but also inevitable to have a bad game. He is probably extremely frustrated that his tries have dried up.
 

gREVUS

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I gotta disagree my friend. Play did get stopped but it was on the last tackle of the set. He left us with 12 defenders on our line for 3-4 tackles while he stayed down. IMO he's was trying to milk the penalty as it didn't look that bad but I apologise if it was genuine.
pretty sure it was for 1 tackle and the play ran right past them, which the ref should never have let happen. I do agree he was milking, but the team needed it badly, if they had gotten the ball back in exactly the same way but not had the breather, they would never have gotten out of their half on the next set. It was professional play imo.
 
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Was frustrating watching live you could see that the dragons weren’t even marking Ken they’d just jam in on Kata, there were a couple of times where Ken had a good 10m of free width but still Kata just ran at players and got double teamed. Big thing for Ken though is to work on his support lines, he isn’t always in the best spot to receive the ball, was pretty evident in Roger Tuivasa-Sheck earlier break he needed to come infield to support him but just hung on his wing
hole in one, i would love to see him come off his line before he gets the ball, he seems to fixate in running hard and straight, (trying to do a Manu) but he could come in, he could change his line and he could try not being so damn flat with Kata all the time. If hes 2 steps behind instead of flat it would be obvious if its Katas fault or if he is to far forward and Kata is passing to his man. IMO Kata is going nowhere, learn to work with him or all hell ever be is a battering ram and returning ball runner.
 

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I don't think the coaching staff will let that situation go on much longer. I hope not anyways...

It will probably be ken who takes a break tho, if either are stood down.

Hiku at 5 will be a better option for helping Kata lean how to set up his winger.

And I think everyone in the whole footy world knows how hard Kata would be to contain if he had a solid passing game.

Jonno....Jonno, Jonno, Jonno. Have you been taking your meds ?
 
pretty sure it was for 1 tackle and the play ran right past them, which the ref should never have let happen. I do agree he was milking, but the team needed it badly, if they had gotten the ball back in exactly the same way but not had the breather, they would never have gotten out of their half on the next set. It was professional play imo.
And then his next run he tries to get even and raises his forearm into contact.. which isn’t very professional..
 

gREVUS

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And then his next run he tries to get even and raises his forearm into contact.. which isn’t very professional..
would you rather have them walk all over our players as has happened for the last 5-6 years? IMO every team needs an enforcer to level the playing field. The game against the titans was very clean, no enforcer needed. The games against the sharks and the rabbits, we needed an enforcer out there, a high shot on sam burges after all the shoulder charges and late hits he does levels the field. If the refs police a fair game i see no need for this role, but some players, the Gallens of the world seem to get a, shall we call it, a pass mark, or altered grade.
 
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Good to see the judiciary is maintaining consistent standards.