Post Match NRL 2018 - Round 21 - Dragons vs Warriors Post Match Discussion

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01 Jan 1970 12:00
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I said I felt the win coming. Its just this vibe you get with the warriors, they lose games they should win and win games they should lose.

I cant give it an A though. That second half was flappn scary and lets be honest if it wasnt for 2 forward passes (which easily could not have been) we would have lost. Yes our defense was awesome and those tries (one was interference) called No Try had to occur with the amount of posession the (Refs) Dragons kept us under on our line, it felt like a period there in the middle of the second half where we were just non stop on our goal line defending.

But the start of the second almost undid everything from the first half and was almost the warriors getting rolled again. It was embarrassing start. So that is why I cant see how it was an A. An A is a near perfect game, an A+ is a perfect game, a B is a really good game which is what they played all up.

Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, best game of the year. unreal metres, exceptional tackles (that stripped ball just as the ball is about to hit the dirt, first class). Shaun Johnson was a bit disappointing after last week but I did see he was trying but they clearly were told to shut him down, green didnt really do much line running either. But both played good game management when we did have the ball, and some great kicks for the sideline when needed to give the tired players a rest. First time Ive seen our team tired this year, I mean tired like we use to be after 30 mins in the past lol, bunching, sucking in the big ones etc, just so much defense.

First half 90% completion was awesome. It was very much a game of 2 halves (lol). We played an A in the first half and if it hadnt been for somebody reminding the boys about Kearney in the sheds it could have been an F.

Either way, like I said after Titans. Only way they can turn my disgust around is by beating St George (which I honestly thought we would). 1 more game. 1/4 should seal it. But 4/4 and some how making the 4, is it still possible? 16
 

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I hate those kind of games, where you just know the second half is going to be completely one sided. As soon as Fusitua fucked up that play 5 mins into the second half, I knew we were going to be scrambling for the next 35 mins.

Man Kata does my head in. That attempted burrow over on the last is criminal. Not only is it totally predictable, but it robs us of any opportunity for a repeat set or try, particularly as we are in great position for a bomb to Fusitua there.

I thought mentally they did well, would have been easy to just give up in that situation with 15-20 to go and having to defend repeated sets and one-sided refereeing.

Tevaga did well, I give him a lot of shit, and he was awful against the Titans, but he was fairly crucial up the middle for us.

I can't work out why we've gone away from our right edge on attack so much. Even when Tohu Harris was fit, Shaun Johnson would often take the ball down the right and throw a cut out pass to Hiku or Fusitua. I don't understand why that play seems to have totally dried up....
 
Im sorry, but what gives you the idea that Kata can fix his no-pass game?

He dissolved Manu's decade long try scoring dominance in his first season inside him. And no we must have the lowest try scoring winger in the NRL next to him. Enough is enough. Kata is a short stocky winger, nothing else. Id like to see him outside Fusitua playing centre, with Fusitua still used to go back for the kicks and go aerial on attack. Kata will just be used running down an edge and early hit-ups.

Or id drop him BELOW ISP until he can show a dozen successful passes to his winger per game, for a full season.
Beautifully summarised.............only in Warriors land under chief selector and stubborn as a mule Kearney is it not thought to be better to have any combination of Maumalo,Fusitua,Hiku,Beale or even Gelling than one with greedy,no vision,selfish,slow learning Solomone in it.
 
My first impression of Kata was seeing him play at hooker, I think it was at the nines. He looked to have all the skills necessary for that role, believe it or not he had a great long pass (probably because he had to regularly pass from dummy half :) Anyway coming off the bench in that role with his running and tackling game in the centre of the field could be devastating. That would also really open up Ken’s offensive game, being placed regularly along side a centre like Hiku or Beale would just give him more opportunities to unleash those devastating runs. For me Ken is the most improved Warrior of 2018 but alas also the most under utilised.

If Kata played hooker stats would read - total team meters 1700 Kata meters from dummy half : 1700
 
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Beastmode

There’s always next year.
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If Kata played hooker stats would read - total team meters 1700 Kata meters from dummy half : 1700


The kid has such tunnel vision

But we won so i’m not a hater today

No, today I LOVE this club

I LOVE these players

I LOVE Kata, I love the midgets, I love the gangsta who ate too many pies, I love Hiku, I love Iro, I love Blair who I use to call blah

I LOVE our coach

I LOVE the fans

I LOVE my wife

It’s a beautiful Sunday

The sun is shining

Life is beautiful

#WarriorsforLife
 

matiunz

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I think he's given up any hope that Kata is gonna pass him the ball, much like everyone else has. You could hear in his post match interview where he said "i don't really get much action on my side", so he pretty much just focuses on his back end carries to add value.

Was frustrating watching live you could see that the dragons weren’t even marking Ken they’d just jam in on Kata, there were a couple of times where Ken had a good 10m of free width but still Kata just ran at players and got double teamed. Big thing for Ken though is to work on his support lines, he isn’t always in the best spot to receive the ball, was pretty evident in Roger Tuivasa-Sheck earlier break he needed to come infield to support him but just hung on his wing
 
My first impression of Kata was seeing him play at hooker, I think it was at the nines. He looked to have all the skills necessary for that role
100%. Very good defence would help the middle. Hes fast and bulky and would rather run it than pass, so teaching him to run when markers are fluffing about and pass otherwise is all thats needed. the only think he lacks which modern hookers do well is a kicking game. hes too good to let go but hes not enough at times. in saying that the guy has scored a lot of tries in the passed 3 weeks.
 
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Far out it feels good to get a win like that. Even if we win all of our last 4 games, I'm not sure it will be enough to make top 4 unless either the roosters or dragons fall off completely.
 
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Maumalo isn’t a natural finisher like Fusitua is. That’s why for me Kata not passing isnt as bad as it maybe could be. I see lots of situations where Kata could have passed but I don’t see many where it looks like Maumalo would have scored for sure. Another factor is Katas jinking running style seems to naturally put players between him and his winger.
It’s hard for defensive players to handle but limits his passing opportunities. It’s a shame, because if he had a natural draw and pass he would be a very complete player.

As for the other side. I think Fusituas reduction in tries is mainly down to the loss of Harris. With him being dangerous with ball in hand as well as being an excellent distributor it puts the defenders in two minds and they tend to pause for a split second. That’s where the gaps come from. With Johnson on one side and Fusitua on the other the tries were flowing. I personally believe Beale will be just as good in those attacking plays as Hiku was if we have a fully fit right hand side. Beales job in that situation is more to make the right decision than be a damaging ball runner himself.
 
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Is that old mouse trap play still legal?
Close to the line Kata would be the perfect man to execute it (assuming he remembered his role was only as the dummy runner). With bully behind him at dummy half when Kata breaks to the short side you just know the goal line defence would swarm all over him - opening up a gap for bully to scramble through.
The hardest part would probably be over coming Kata's urge to pick up the ball.
 
Was frustrating watching live you could see that the dragons weren’t even marking Ken they’d just jam in on Kata, there were a couple of times where Ken had a good 10m of free width but still Kata just ran at players and got double teamed. Big thing for Ken though is to work on his support lines, he isn’t always in the best spot to receive the ball, was pretty evident in Roger Tuivasa-Sheck earlier break he needed to come infield to support him but just hung on his wing


Yup Yup agree there
If can’t get the ball from one way Sol
Kenny G needs to go on the hunt
As you say work the lines find the gaps
Cutting in field
Support the offloads
Hard running from quick number 9 service

You can do it!
 
What I noticed about the warriors defence yesterday was how the third man was involved. He was there to basically put him on their back. By rolling back (think German Suplex) and the commentary team was bitchin and moaning about it. Slow the play the ball. It stop their offload game to an extent. It was just unfortunate that Vaughan (almost Widdop) got injured using this technique. I hope they keep this up.
 

wrighty

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Fusitua committed 4 errors in total and if he didn't commit any then maybe we win that game 18-0.

The 4th error in my view was competing with Shek for the final catch of the game. I thought I spotted a little knock on between the two players so that could have been the losing of the game.

I hypothesise that the reason he got over enthusiastic and took those risks is that he hasn't seen much pill recently so he felt like he wanted to make something happen himself.

When a player is self destructing like that the captain must go and talk to him. Instead various warriors walked over and gave him a thumbs up.

His actions nearly cost us 18 points had Roger Tuivasa-Sheck not miraculously not saved a try by dislodging the ball from a St George players hands.

I was livid with David at one point and I hope he settles down after this outburst of mistakes.