Iafetas Kickstand Wang
The level of refereeing incompetence this year has gone to another level. I don’t know if it stems from the sin bin prerogative earlier this year, but I can only imagine, aside from utter incompetence, that these lads lack any confidence on whether they are coming or going. Sutton needs to sack these fuckers after that debacle.
I think what is evident is that in the run to the finals there will be a lot of desperation from certain teams. If you don't turn up with 110% intensity, you will be completely found out like the Panthers are tonight and like we were against Penrith 2 weeks ago. There's just too much at stake so no matter who you are playing, you need to turn up mentally and physically. The Panthers just haven't turned up tonight. There must surely be question marks over their finals credentials- they'll be 4 losses from the last 5 and quite possibly go down to 7th by the end of the weekend.
Good thing Roberts and Pangai Jnr didn't play against us last weekend
Given how we played and they played, they wouldn't have made a difference. The donkeys would have still been smoked.
drunk_monk
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Ever Hopeful
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If I was completely objective (which I definitely am not) the bunker has two choices:
Adjudicate to the rule book by the letter of the law
or
Adjudicate by "common sense."
As much as they make me tear my hair out, you can see the issue with the above. I was heavily in favour of having a bunker, but maybe it is time to accept one ref and the odd error that comes with it.
Adjudicate to the rule book by the letter of the law
or
Adjudicate by "common sense."
As much as they make me tear my hair out, you can see the issue with the above. I was heavily in favour of having a bunker, but maybe it is time to accept one ref and the odd error that comes with it.
I hope the Panthers make this a bit more respectable. If its a huge blowout we could drop to 8th if we lose big against the Storm.
gREVUS
Long live the Rainbows and Butterflies
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How is that hair pull not a sin bin
drunk_monk
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It's fine because we're going to win.
Man I'm glad this Broncos wasn't against us last weekend
gREVUS
Long live the Rainbows and Butterflies
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so the sharks have two wins now against the run of play, looking at the ladder they should be running 7th or 8th but are now 2nd even if its just for a day. The broncos have done what i hoped we would do to them last week and lifted their for and against dramatically with a single game. The warriors can stay ahead of them by winning. if they lose they are needing 12 points to stay ahead (which wont happen if they lose) so the warriors go to 8th. there is no chance of the warriors scoring 80 points to get ahead of the panthers, but win and they are back in 5th. God this season is close just wish the warriors had a better for and against
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Saw Raiders press conference .... How Sticky didn't lose it I don't know, but feel for you mate... That howler cost them a chance of making the 8, where as the Sharks in reality shouldn't be contesting the top 4. Like I've said in previous posts in the last few weeks its not the warriors opposition that worrys me most.....
jonesy101
That's the second time this season the Raiders have been on the receiving end of some shockers against the Sharks. Its all fish and chip paper now, but if the Sharks did not win the three games where they were given massive assistance to determine the result the teams would be looking like this:
Warriors 12-5
Raiders 10-8
Sharks 9-9
The Sharks wouldn't even be in the 8!
snake77
Raiders got shafted by that dopey touch judge call.
I was looking forward to the Bronocs vs Panthers all week thinking two teams in the 8 it should be close and it ends up being a blow out. Funny how it often works out like that.
Hopefully the Panthers form falling off continues to we play them.
The loss to us looks to have woken the Broncos up. See how long that lasts.
I was looking forward to the Bronocs vs Panthers all week thinking two teams in the 8 it should be close and it ends up being a blow out. Funny how it often works out like that.
Hopefully the Panthers form falling off continues to we play them.
The loss to us looks to have woken the Broncos up. See how long that lasts.
Tedster
Yip, felt sorry for the guy and it wasn't just one call it was about 4 or 5 that were shockers - even though the refs come out today and say they got it wrong its too late for the raiders, doesn't help them aye - it doesn't bode well for the coming weeks.
Dixpat
In Andy we (have to) trust
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The referee's reliance on the bunker is causing them the problem we saw last night
It is too easy to allow play to run on after an "incident" and if there is a try to review the whole play.
If a try hadn't been scored what do we think the outcome would have been given the linesman had indicated to the ref a knock-on - scrum Raiders.
If the ref's made the call on everything in the field of play and the bunker could only rule on groundings [and perhaps foul play] then the ref's would quickly smarten their act and start getting more calls correct.
Previously the bunker ruled on strips, now they don't, yet the fans seem to have accepted that even though we see strips go unpenalised sometimes.
As for forward passes - increase the officiating team by another 2 whose sole job is to run in line with the play [one on either side of the field] and call forward passes.
Leave the touchie to do what they are there to do and that is determine whether the ball/player is in touch
It is too easy to allow play to run on after an "incident" and if there is a try to review the whole play.
If a try hadn't been scored what do we think the outcome would have been given the linesman had indicated to the ref a knock-on - scrum Raiders.
If the ref's made the call on everything in the field of play and the bunker could only rule on groundings [and perhaps foul play] then the ref's would quickly smarten their act and start getting more calls correct.
Previously the bunker ruled on strips, now they don't, yet the fans seem to have accepted that even though we see strips go unpenalised sometimes.
As for forward passes - increase the officiating team by another 2 whose sole job is to run in line with the play [one on either side of the field] and call forward passes.
Leave the touchie to do what they are there to do and that is determine whether the ball/player is in touch
Otto Sump
The state of officiating is becoming such a blight on the game that it will already have contributed quite significantly to the make up of the top 8 by the end of the year if the organisation wasn't so inept you would begin to think it was rigged.
To my mind it has all stemmed form this growing obsession with chasing perfection, it doesn't matter how black and white they make it is a game played, coached watched and officiated by humans the grey area's often contain the magic. They are heading down the Union route of introducing a rule for every scenario and it just ruins the fluidity of the game.
The start was the the bunker... fuck the bunker it hasn't improved shit. They get as many wrong calls as ever in fact they are not even consistant on how they use it. I mean what sort of fucktard comes up with a scenario where if a ref is not sure if there was a try or not they make a guess and then send it upstairs for the Bunker to confirm or deny (assuming they have significant evidence). It's like they got Lloyd and Harry in as consultants to devising that one. The bunker is a big, expensive, white element and it needs a bullet. The worst effect of the bunker is that too often the refs are avoiding the responsibility of decision making and now just kick it upstairs.
To a certain extent I don't blame them because they are shit scared of getting it wrong and being publicly emasculated by that sycophant Sutton. Personally I don't expect perfection from the refs there is always going to be human error in a game but what I expect is consistancy, impartiality, an understanding for the game and the balls to stick to their decision. If each ref has their own personality, likes, dislikes areas they police or let go, as long as it is consistant and impartial then all power to them. It just becomes another variable that each team needs to prep for. eg. Kearney "Ok lads we got XYZ this week he tends to run a skinny ten so be mindful of that" or "this week we got ABC he'll let a bit more go in the wrestle but watch the ten he's a pedantic mother fucker there".
To finish this rant I just want to quote Sticky "just let the ref's ref without all this noise in their heads.
To my mind it has all stemmed form this growing obsession with chasing perfection, it doesn't matter how black and white they make it is a game played, coached watched and officiated by humans the grey area's often contain the magic. They are heading down the Union route of introducing a rule for every scenario and it just ruins the fluidity of the game.
The start was the the bunker... fuck the bunker it hasn't improved shit. They get as many wrong calls as ever in fact they are not even consistant on how they use it. I mean what sort of fucktard comes up with a scenario where if a ref is not sure if there was a try or not they make a guess and then send it upstairs for the Bunker to confirm or deny (assuming they have significant evidence). It's like they got Lloyd and Harry in as consultants to devising that one. The bunker is a big, expensive, white element and it needs a bullet. The worst effect of the bunker is that too often the refs are avoiding the responsibility of decision making and now just kick it upstairs.
To a certain extent I don't blame them because they are shit scared of getting it wrong and being publicly emasculated by that sycophant Sutton. Personally I don't expect perfection from the refs there is always going to be human error in a game but what I expect is consistancy, impartiality, an understanding for the game and the balls to stick to their decision. If each ref has their own personality, likes, dislikes areas they police or let go, as long as it is consistant and impartial then all power to them. It just becomes another variable that each team needs to prep for. eg. Kearney "Ok lads we got XYZ this week he tends to run a skinny ten so be mindful of that" or "this week we got ABC he'll let a bit more go in the wrestle but watch the ten he's a pedantic mother fucker there".
To finish this rant I just want to quote Sticky "just let the ref's ref without all this noise in their heads.
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bruce
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No it is a lack of decent referees. Harrigan was out in front and led the pack. Now they don't even have a Harrigan.
Sutton needs to be sacked first brother. He is just an incompetent Neville.
Exactly, and some clubs e.g Broncos understand that
Totally agree, and so does the points differential.
You summed it up perfectly IMO. They guy is a major part of the problem, and he has the dropkick Tony Archer to help.
Sup42
Hurrells playing quite well....gee he has a big fat arse...he is going to be one fat blob when he retires.
Lilyman does the moonwalk at the end of every run.
Lilyman does the moonwalk at the end of every run.
matiunz
Hurrell kind of has a point to prove, I think he’s only just come back into first grade last couple of weeks- he’s been pretty poor last few games I’d seen him play
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