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01 Jan 1970 12:00PM

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Boats n Hoes

Boats n Hoes

Watch the roosters game and you; realise that their props were running at our halves and hooker frequently trying not to take our bigs head on. Reason why Lisone got the crap kicked out of him was becuase he ran straight at Hargraves and Nappa (Both huge dudes). What Im saying is, intangables is what Im getting at. Numbers arent the be all end all bro. Yes Kata has quite a high tackle EFFICIENCY, but is very bad at reading and Often rushes out to shut down a pass and majority of the time leaves an overlap agasint us. people score all the time because he does that. Roosters scored through him doing that and probably couldve done it more than once if they skip passed it. In terms of Shaun Johnson, yes he does make tackles, but he also goes missing on defense alot of the time. Thing i liked about Hingano was that he wasnt afraid of ANYONE on the field, willing to fly at anyone at the drop of a hat, We need that from Shaun Johnson too. Often enough he's the 3rd man in a tackle and with how fast todays game is, 3rd man doesnt always need to be there so its a stat pad. I agree 100% with those you name Moses and brooks are a headache to watch on defence and thats because opposing props know to run at them to get the best yardage.. Thurstons is unfourtunate, but I feel like half the time he puts a lil effort in. He can take the contact, he just cant dish it out.

Oh I agree with you about Kata and the tackle efficiency rate doesn't measure how one reads in defence.

But it is a direct measure of tackles made (and no their not 3rd man tackles) to the amount of tackles missed, and currently Shaun Johnson is performing pretty well at not dropping off, getting bumped off or getting run over or coming up with a straight miss. In fact better than any of our other halves and fares favourably compared to halves in the whole comp.

His initial contact in D is good and if he's at least holding up the big blokes until help arrives then that's a million times better than just getting straight steam rolled or missing straight up ala James Maloney styles, then surely that's what counts......in fact that whole right edge on D have been scrambling well often holding up until the calvary arrives.

Teams will always target halves, its rugby league 101, their generally smaller blokes so there's going to be more purchase lining your oompas up against them. Not only that but in Shauns case its a recognition of the threat he poses ball in hand and a definite ploy to drain some petrol out of the tank so he less likely to be more effective when he does get the ball.
If defending on the wing wasn't so specialised in nature I would have him out there instead of 3 in burning up energy on D (Cowboys) do with Thurston from time to time) just smart play I reckon.

Its been (I thought) pretty obvious the improvement on D in Shaun Johnson's game over the last 3 seasons. While recognizing he will always be a target (as is Green, as Lino when he plays) I now feel fairly safe or have an expectation the the line will hold.....hasn't always been that way.

Oh and incidently this season Shaun Johnson's tackle efficiency rate - 82.7%, Ata Hingano - 63.1%
 
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Lance155

Lance155

Trolling lol.. Dont make me laugh.
Hiku and Kata aren't that great on defence either. Hiku is passive on defence and cant make tackles and Kata rushes out of the line leaving an overlap and we often get scored on in both instances. Believe me man I've watched the Warriors FOR YEARS. this is a known thing that Shaun Johnson makes takes here and there he doesnt really get bumped off or shrugged, but put it this way If he was at the fullback position given his skillset and running abilities and gifts, is he making that one on one tackle or not? Im going with no. Ive read his numbers but knowing that hes most likely defending next to a forward, alot of them would be 3rd man tackles. In other words, stat padding.

Yea because noone else here has watched the Warriors for years. Over all those years surely you have noticed how rare one on one tackles are in league? Multiple players in the tackle is how the game is played
 
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Billy Teets James

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'These Days'.. How long has Shaun Johnson been in the NRL? Better yet, how long has he been in the Warriors system yet he STILL is trash on defence? The reason why Roosters did so good agasint us over the weekend is because their props ran at our backs which means if any team is gonna beat us up the middle it will be running to our halves and hookers instead of our Bigs. I can't have that on my conscience Lino got ran through heaps because they target the defensive weaklink in every team.. Ours being Shaun Johnson

Shaun Johnson didn't play? And our other thrashing Melbourne gave us, Shaun Johnson didn't play in that game either? Lmao...Are you trolling or what? Shaun Johnson's defense is 10 times as good as it was when he started with us. He's made heaps of progress in that department.
 
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WarriorBall

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Shaun Johnson copping grief again lol. Can't be easy giving away 20-30 kilo to an aggressive big bopper who see’s you as something to be trampled on the way to the line, then just when he’s a bit gassed and his impact’s diminished a fresh one comes on to terrorise you all over again.

A large part of our game is built around isolating the small defender so I can live with a half missing the odd tackle, Shaun Johnson’s putting his body in front these days which in is all we can probably ask of him.
 
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Weno

Weno

Bagging our man and he not even playing. Lol

Shaun Johnson does okay on D , can even put a shot on.
Most halves have deficiencies on D , can we just accept it.
 
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BlaqAdam

BlaqAdam

Bagging our man and he not even playing. Lol

Shaun Johnson does okay on D , can even put a shot on.
Most halves have deficiencies on D , can we just accept it.
I can accept it, What I cant accept is people out here acting like because his efficiancy is good, that he becomes super good at defence. A lot of the people finally touched on the intangables with their latest post in which i can agree with mostly.
 
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BlaqAdam

BlaqAdam

Shaun Johnson copping grief again lol. Can't be easy giving away 20-30 kilo to an aggressive big bopper who see’s you as something to be trampled on the way to the line, then just when he’s a bit gassed and his impact’s diminished a fresh one comes on to terrorise you all over again.

A large part of our game is built around isolating the small defender so I can live with a half missing the odd tackle, Shaun Johnson’s putting his body in front these days which in is all we can probably ask of him.
Bagging our man and he not even playing. Lol

Shaun Johnson does okay on D , can even put a shot on.
Most halves have deficiencies on D , can we just accept it.

Idk man, he's done it before and pulls it out when he feels like it. Most hlves do have deficiences but its not good enough. You mean to tell me these players practice defending for years and still can lack it? I understand he comes across alot of the action being in the middle, but lets be honest he does go hiding at times.

When he feels like it, he's more than cappable and when he does he becomes that much more dangerous
 
Fazz

Fazz

Just read an article that mentioned there have been 25 players who have played for both the eels and warriors so I whipped up a team made up of them just because.

McKinnon
inu
Iva ropati
Whatuira
Odenryn
Foran
Green

Mark horo
Pj marsh
Tookey
Galuvao
Mateo
Todd lowrie

Ian Henderson
Matagi
latimore
John Simon

Coach John moonie (Kearney and anderson also coached both clubs)

Perenara can be the ref.

Pretty bloody fair team if it's made up of each guy in their prime
 
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Billyspleen75

Billyspleen75

Aren’t the reserves Beale Lawton Vete and Gelling ?

Edit- missed that we got an exemption to bring in Cnk
 
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jonesy101

jonesy101

They are now well and truly up against it tomorrow night. Hiku could be an option at fullback too with Beale in at centre. Risky though with his defence this year.
 
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