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Well last season he didn't even finish it due to some poor off field decisions; however up until his suspension, and then the start of this year, he's looked as good as any half in the competition.
Obvious he has sorted out the supply issues with his drug dealer and there'll be no more dining out with the gang..

so long as he doesn't do a Tim Simona and piss off his gf by having a little flutter!
 
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I think the team lineup is almost secondary. SK is getting the guys to play to a structure first and foremost.

In both the last two games they have been in a position to win both. Which when you consider is a vast improvement on the previous years.

It is a team game so one player cannot transform performance by stature alone, he can't take every tackle.

The closest will be Foran with his organising and hard nosed attitude. That is the area which Shaun Johnson alacks for all his other qualities.
 
I think the team lineup is almost secondary. SK is getting the guys to play to a structure first and foremost.

In both the last two games they have been in a position to win both. Which when you consider is a vast improvement on the previous years.

It is a team game so one player cannot transform performance by stature alone, he can't take every tackle.
I do agree with what your thinking here

The closest will be Foran with his organising and hard nosed attitude. That is the area which Shaun Johnson alacks for all his other qualities.
But don't you think it would be a contradiction if Shaun Johnson played to his full ability. I believe SK has dumbed the team down in order to learn/master the fundamentals, the way he wants them to play starts with the basics then capitalises on the percentages. Shaun Johnson is better than you've given him credit for and would only undermine the lessons the team need to learn if he played as we and SK know he can..
 
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I asked what he had done wrong. He hasn't dropped any balls, missed many tackles, dropped any clangers, missed marking his man. He is a very consistent and intelligent player. Give me some stats to show he is rubbish at NRL level. The only thing he isn't is a Polynesian frame close to the line. If he is being left out because of that one has to consider the price of consistency against physicality.
He can't tackle. Off the top of my head I can nominate both games against the Raiders last year where his awful defence was exposed. There were plenty of other examples, the Broncos owned him in I think round 3 of last year. He can pass to his winger however I reckon that's about all he has going for him. Warriors are now the third club to work this out.
 
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Wow Kieran Foran named as a possible starter for the Warriors, and so many fans are unhappy that other Plebs get a run ( MR Brownstone excluded he's unhappy about Foran specifically,, I hope he's wrong, however his reasoning is sound).

My....how odd a creature doth Warrior fan make.

Our team is so shit that when a Superstar Like KF is in the conversation, it is still possible to be disgruntled by other players naming.

I get why.

We are the Cuckold betrayed Lover of the Warrior faith.

We have given them understanding, we have made excuses for them, we have rationalized what greatness they are capable of.

To me it seems totally bizarre that Forans return by virtue of being a Warrior....is so weakly received.

I guarantee you that were he running out for any other club this year in his return.....all eyes would be on him.

I guess you also have to factor in the Warriors History of signing the odd big name here and there....and often times they fail to meet expectation.

Personally I believe Foran is the litmus paper....which is why I am delighted he may play in this game for a spell.

This game is the most pressurized baptism of fire you could wish upon a player joining the Warriors by virtue of the Dragons being the hardest game we ever play....and coming in cold in the early rounds....for the Warriors.... Is certain Suicide.

There is almost no way we win this game right ?

Welcome to Mission impossible KF..

Very happy if I get to see what he can do in a unsolvable scenario when he is at his most Vulnerable.

That shit tells you a lot about an individual....irrespective of the final result.
Don't worry too much about my views, I get things wrong plenty of times - you should see me do my day job! I genuinely hope that if Foran does get on the field that he blitzes it every game he plays for us. I'm completely over the Warriors being a joke.
 
I do agree with what your thinking here


But don't you think it would be a contradiction if Shaun Johnson played to his full ability. I believe SK has dumbed the team down in order to learn/master the fundamentals, the way he wants them to play starts with the basics then capitalises on the percentages. Shaun Johnson is better than you've given him credit for and would only undermine the lessons the team need to learn if he played as we and SK know he can..

We definitely need everybody to play to their potential. I really don't think structure stifles his skills. His major attributes are exploiting gaps and mis matches he sees instinctively. Under the new structured play he is getting less of those chances. More importantly so is the opposition.

From what I have seen most of our defensive errors have been individual errors rather than team structure.

I believe the answer to unleash Shaun Johnson and other players in our ranks is support play, bodies in motion, same as defence, where it should all start.

Coaching the Warriors is like a Teacher correcting students spelling. They shouldn't have to teach them the alphabet.
 
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I asked what he had done wrong. He hasn't dropped any balls, missed many tackles, dropped any clangers, missed marking his man. He is a very consistent and intelligent player. Give me some stats to show he is rubbish at NRL level. The only thing he isn't is a Polynesian frame close to the line. If he is being left out because of that one has to consider the price of consistency against physicality.

Funny how people see things differently.
I've been watching him his whole career ( you probably have too) and all the things u have highlighted as strengths are things I see as weaknesses for him.
He's always been very inconsistent. He'll have some good games then have an absolute shocker- dropping sitters and falling off easy tackles. That's been the pattern for him and that's why he's been in and out of first grade.
I'm not against ashford getting another chance just because I think Fusitua maybe better utilized on the wing at this stage of his career but racial stereotypes don't come into for me.
 
Wow Kieran Foran named as a possible starter for the Warriors, and so many fans are unhappy that other Plebs get a run ( MR Brownstone excluded he's unhappy about Foran specifically,, I hope he's wrong, however his reasoning is sound).

My....how odd a creature doth Warrior fan make.

Our team is so shit that when a Superstar Like KF is in the conversation, it is still possible to be disgruntled by other players naming.

I get why.

We are the Cuckold betrayed Lover of the Warrior faith.

We have given them understanding, we have made excuses for them, we have rationalized what greatness they are capable of.

To me it seems totally bizarre that Forans return by virtue of being a Warrior....is so weakly received.

I guarantee you that were he running out for any other club this year in his return.....all eyes would be on him.

I guess you also have to factor in the Warriors History of signing the odd big name here and there....and often times they fail to meet expectation.

Personally I believe Foran is the litmus paper....which is why I am delighted he may play in this game for a spell.

This game is the most pressurized baptism of fire you could wish upon a player joining the Warriors by virtue of the Dragons being the hardest game we ever play....and coming in cold in the early rounds....for the Warriors.... Is certain Suicide.

There is almost no way we win this game right ?

Welcome to Mission impossible KF..

Very happy if I get to see what he can do in a unsolvable scenario when he is at his most Vulnerable.

That shit tells you a lot about an individual....irrespective of the final result.


Honestly I don't even care if he does too much, I don't expect him to single handedly win the game. I'm just happy he's there, relieved almost - I hope he plays.
 
Honestly I don't even care if he does too much, I don't expect him to single handedly win the game. I'm just happy he's there, relieved almost - I hope he plays.
Same here.
I can't remember him single handedly winning games in the past too.

Not that sought of player aye.

Be good to see him eventually influence how the others organise and hang tough
 
I can't remember who it was now but after the dragons beat the sharks on the weekend they interviewed one of the players and they said the game plan was to take the sharks on through the middle of the field.
Now if they're willing to take on gallen, fafita, prior etc u don't have to be a rocket surgeon to realize what their plan will be against us.
Doesn't help that packer and ah mau will have a point to prove.
Our middle are gonna have to take some lumps if we're any chance in this one.
 
I expect to lose.

Forans return is just good news for our game here and our season.
Yea Woolongong is a tough place to win for any team let alone us being the Dragons bunnies. I have been there to see us be the better team but somehow lose. Their forwards look big, inform, mobile whilst playing with determination.

8. Russell Packer

9. Cameron McInnes

10. Paul Vaughan

11. Tyson Frizell

12. Joel Thompson

13. Jack de Belin

We will have to meet them with an all for one and one for all attitude as a team... which I sadly have not seen in our 3 games thus far.
I'll be hoping for it... and at least it is the LAST GAME of the round, so it will not ruin the weekend straight away.
 

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He can't tackle. Off the top of my head I can nominate both games against the Raiders last year where his awful defence was exposed. There were plenty of other examples, the Broncos owned him in I think round 3 of last year. He can pass to his winger however I reckon that's about all he has going for him. Warriors are now the third club to work this out.
Do you have some stats to back that up? In his games last season that I checked his missed tackle count compared favourably with the others.
 
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