Post Match NRL 2017 - Round 3 - Bulldogs Warriors Post Match Discussion

[mt.wellington]

Who stood out in the forwards?
If we were going to bring up a middle forward who do u think would be first cab off the rank?

https://www.nzwarriors.com/threads/2017-warriors-nsw-cup-reserve-grade.54302/page-3#post-642500

 

[Brother Faisal]

Luke has to go. He has really bad service and makes about 3 dumb errors 5 bad passes and 1 costly stupid penalty a game. He's a bench impact player now. Never has and never will be an 80 min hooker. He faded badly in that game.

 

[eudebrito]

There are 12 point losses and 12 point losses. Was about as ugly a 12 point loss you’ll find.

Some good writing on here about these jabronis since Friday night, the warriors might have spent the week fibbing about going set for set against the storm – they’ll struggle to come up with any lies for the fan base after that one.

Which (usually) begats a good performance the next week. Outright shaming is one of the only motivators that works.

The bulldogs did pull off some excellent try savers, however their attack is a limited as any team, and they went through the warriors with ease in their few chances.

 

[eudebrito]

At least Brad Abbey was crap. The only thing more annoying than supporting a dud team is seeing players that used to be a part of your dud team rip it up against you.

Hard to know what the bulldogs saw in him, an open field runner but now fullbacks hardly get a chance to show it against the bomb and the set defensive line of the modern game.

 

[Weno]

Okay, I think I've got your number ... thanks.

Guess if was going to do it that style.
I would push Thompson up front to give us a ball playing offloader.
Mannering joins Hoffman in the 2nd row and the ball playing unorthodox James Bell comes into lock.

 

[3rdstriker]

My take might be an unpopular one.

I was disheartened by the lack of flair on attack don't get me wrong.

My belief isn't that Kearney and co. are bad coaches or Doyle is a dud CEO, despite the masses saying otherwise.

My belief is that the very core of the Warriors stereotype is being stripped before our eyes and being rebuilt.

Outside arguments complain about the lack of structure in Warrior teams. Others complain that we rely too much on Magic from the Likes of Shaun Johnson to win us games.

However vs. Bulldogs we saw a back to basics, safe and structured style of footy the likes of Storm teams.

Fans didn't like it because, uh, it isn't Warrior ball.

The clear focus of Kearney and co. Is to hell with Warrior ball of old.

The myth that Warrior ball suits the style of our players is as far bent as us having the biggest pack in the Comp.

Because the young players coming through aren't confident enough to back themselves in the mantra of players past.

A series of confusing coach selections have brainwashed the creativity from the current crop of players minus a select few who just have it e.g. Johnson.

It started as early as Uncle Ivan - Matulinos offload an early casualty.

However, the confusion has suited Kearney because he's a student of structure.

Structure which leads to consistency.

Consistency which leads to sustained success.

Sustained success we have never had before at this club.

I'm ok with Kearney taking the boys back to basics because I trust there's





Awesome post at least it gives us some sort of confidence if you're right.

 

[Inruin]

At least Brad Abbey was crap. The only thing more annoying than supporting a dud team is seeing players that used to be a part of your dud team rip it up against you.

Hard to know what the bulldogs saw in him, an open field runner but now fullbacks hardly get a chance to show it against the bomb and the set defensive line of the modern game.

they did run a couple of nice plays with him though. the inside ball from Graham was a good play, makes me wonder why we dont have set plays like this when we have a dynamic fullback with Roger Tuivasa-Sheck

 

[WarriorBall]

Guess if was going to do it that style.
I would push Thompson up front to give us a ball playing offloader.
Mannering joins Hoffman in the 2nd row and the ball playing unorthodox James Bell comes into lock.

There are a couple of young players from the Cup side I believe are ready to transition into first grade but for me James Bell isn't one of them, he's a little bit like Tevaga, at 180 cm and only 90 odd kilos Bells too small for lock or second row particularly when we come up against the bigger packs like the Raiders. We already have weak pack and I'd be seriously concerned having a bloke that small defending our middle, when Mannering left the field against the Knights we were exposed badly in that area so for me Mannering stays at lock.

In terms of Isaac Luke which is where this whole conversation started the player that'll apply the most pressure to drive his performance is Roache, I'd have no problem carrying him on the bench while Luke's playing so inconsistently.

 

[Weno]

There are a couple of young players from the Cup side I believe are ready to transition into first grade but for me James Bell isn't one of them, he's a little bit like Tevaga, at 180 cm and only 90 odd kilos Bells too small for lock or second row particularly when we come up against the bigger packs like the Raiders. We already have weak pack and I'd be seriously concerned having a bloke that small defending our middle, when Mannering left the field against the Knights we were exposed badly in that area so for me Mannering stays at lock.

In terms of Isaac Luke which is where this whole conversation started the player that'll apply the most pressure to drive his performance is Roache, I'd have no problem carrying him on the bench while Luke's playing so inconsistently.

 

[Weno]

I am a Bell fan.
He deserves an opportunity.
Lock is the only place i would play him , Johnson , Tongue and Cunningham were all light weight and held there own.
Defensively Bell is strong , his technique allows him to get under the ball carriers and snot them.
He can hit to.
But it is his ball playing and skill that catches my attention.
An unorthodox attacker who can bring something out of nothing.
Not good for our team right now.
But once Benny , our double barrel Sipleys , Gavet etc make there way in.
Maybe they can chance him to get that extra spark.

 

[rugged]

Ryan Hoffman had the job of fronting on Radio Sport, he gave some bullocks about how they had a brutally honest review and it was the best review he had been he had been part of in his time in the Warriors. If it was an honest review, there better be some bloody heads to roll. He then went on about how the major problem was defence and how they asked questions of the Bulldogs when inside the 20. I agree that the defence was atrocious, but what planet are they living on if they think we looked threatening???

If this is what they call a brutally honest review I can't imagine what the reviews are like when they bullshit each other

 

[bruce]

Ryan Hoffman had the job of fronting on Radio Sport, he gave some bullocks about how they had a brutally honest review and it was the best review he had been he had been part of in his time in the Warriors. If it was an honest review, there better be some bloody heads to roll. He then went on about how the major problem was defence and how they asked questions of the Bulldogs when inside the 20. I agree that the defence was atrocious, but what planet are they living on if they think we looked threatening???

If this is what they call a brutally honest review I can't imagine what the reviews are like when they bullshit each other

I think it goes without saying that Hoffman spins a good yarn. Pity he didn't back it up on the paddock with the tackling.

 

[mt.wellington]

At least Brad Abbey was crap. The only thing more annoying than supporting a dud team is seeing players that used to be a part of your dud team rip it up against you.

Raymond Faitala-Mariner did get the offload off to set up the nail in the coffin try...

 

[eudebrito]

Raymond Faitala-Mariner did get the offload off to set up the nail in the coffin try...

Should've been called held. Will selectively ignore.

 

[Gizzyfan]

Looked pretty awful, particularly attack. I will keep the pitchfork in the shed until Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, Matulino, Foran and a good Hooker rotation is on the field.

I measure teams by defence which was OK.

 

[Leaguegod]

Ryan Hoffman had the job of fronting on Radio Sport, he gave some bullocks about how they had a brutally honest review and it was the best review he had been he had been part of in his time in the Warriors. If it was an honest review, there better be some bloody heads to roll. He then went on about how the major problem was defence and how they asked questions of the Bulldogs when inside the 20. I agree that the defence was atrocious, but what planet are they living on if they think we looked threatening???

If this is what they call a brutally honest review I can't imagine what the reviews are like when they bullshit each other

If it was brutally honest then Hoffman should be playing NSW cup this week. Why not he's gone next year, try and swap him or something. I twittered him but he didn't respond! ha ha funny that!