Team List NRL 2016 Round 7 - Bulldogs vs Warriors TEAM LIST

[Freddie Futler]

1. Most NRL experts and a lot of fans on here having been calling for Tui, now it's happened he's copping it because how can it work after England.

I for one did not call for it as I see more value for him as a winger.

2. A few weeks ago there was a truckload of peeps wanting Konnie in, and now that he is Cappy cops it for wasting a spot on him

Not me

You know the old saying, "A Squeaky wheel get the oil" and yes there were some very vocal supporters on here but I will reserve my judgement until after the event.

 

[way2sharp]

mt-wellington any signs that Manu is training?

 

[glory_hog]

I was more for Lolo to centre at the start of the season, but I actually like the move, gives us more options, yeah sure the doggies will target him and rush him, and if thats the case, we should counter that with short balls to Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, so hoping cappys got some counter attack plan for that. also I thought robbo missed a few opportunities, breaking the line and even scoring cause of his lack of speed, and to be honest its more of a gain then a loss in the halves.

the 1st test against England I didnt think he played that bad, sure he didnt take the game by the scruff of the neck and stamp his name on that jersey, but I always got the feeling with Lolo that he was the type of player that needed more nursing through the system (and we are talking about a NZ system which really is shit) instead of thrown in the deep end, sure hes not perfect but so wasnt Robbo, I hope hes ready for it.

putting Shaun Johnson back at 7 is the right move, he needs that ball, thats when he plays better, not sure about the number on your back dont mean shit brigade, Im of the old school way of thinking, 7 means Scrum-half, not Stand-off.

my biggest concern is up front, man we got to man up, Gubby really has to chop these doggies legs in half, after last weeks crap performance and we know that he aint going to make much metres so he better do what he does best. I'm hoping a backlash from him this week.

also Sao has to come in for Hurrell, size is whats needed here and even though I love the Hurrellnado I just dont think he'll have a impact against the dogs he needs to play centre for mine.

if we bring it up front, we have a chance.

 

[stacky18]

Our game plan should be no more then 2 passes wide. Straight running. PTB. Kick deep into corners, on 4th if need be. Chase. Tackle. Repeat.
Play negative. Play boring. Take the 2 on offer.
Wait for Dogs mistakes and capitalise on them.
I don't see this happening though because too many guys lose their heads and play selfish.

 

[wallacenz]

Wow there's a lot if meltdown going on. Now I'm hardly Cappys biggest fan, but...

1. Most NRL experts and a lot of fans on here having been calling for Tui, now it's happened he's copping it because how can it work after England.
2. A few weeks ago there was a truckload of peeps wanting Konnie in, and now that he is Cappy cops it for wasting a spot on him
3. Cappys copping it for TL being on the bench. Cameron McInnes and Issac often played together, quite successfully. TL also had a line break last week.
4. Before last week most would have freely circle jerked with Gubb. I'm ok with him getting another chance.

Really, I don't care how the changes came about but to keep doing what we had done would be pure insanity.

I cant say I was one of those people thinking Hurrell would make a difference but I doubt people calling for Hurrell were talking about playing him off the bench in the forwards

 

[Excuses excuses]

The thing I don't understand from Anderw McFadden is he said that Lolohea and Johnson were always going to be the halves pairing at some stage. Why would you then sign Robson and start Lolohea on the wing for the first 7 games of the season? Why wait until the team is 5 and 2 to introduce your ideal halves pairing?

 

[Stylez Davis]

These are the changes we wanted.
Last roll of the dice?
I don't think we can win without Manu smashing it up on tackle two, not saying we will win if he plays but pretty sure we don't if he doesn't.
That said I expect two changes before kickoff.
Manu on for Wright.
Konny on for Blake.

Would prefer manu on for konnie tbh

 

[Run_it_str8]

The thing I don't understand from Anderw McFadden is he said that Lolohea and Johnson were always going to be the halves pairing at some stage. Why would you then sign Robson and start Lolohea on the wing for the first 7 games of the season? Why wait until the team is 5 and 2 to introduce your ideal halves pairing?

My guess is because he knew coming back from injury via the 9s that Shaun Johnson would benefit from a release from driving the team around the park and be the organiser. Thus introducing Robson.

Since Robson hasn't provided the desired results I agree with him being dropped but I would have dropped Lisone and Gubb as well.

 

[The Truth]

I always thought that with us having 3 x 80 minute back rowers that it would free up some space for some big line benders on the bench....
Anyone else think this was the case?

 

[Run_it_str8]

I always thought that with us having 3 x 80 minute back rowers that it would free up some space for some big line benders on the bench....
Anyone else think this was the case?

It would be amazing if the 80min back rowers could maintain a high level of endurance throughout.

But like you say having more interchanges for the big boppers would be great.

But they would need to repay the team and run it up the guts hard and straight to bend and break the line.

Perhaps Cappy could teach them to say to themselves "Yeah I'm tired but everyone out here is. What will I do to contribute to the win for our team tonight?"

 

[1995Warriorsfan]

This was on TV One News tonight. It was an interesting story highlighting some of the errors made by the warriors against Manly.
It really does highlight how bad Gubb played on Saturday night.
It also shows the consistent problem over the last 21 years all brawn and no brains.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/spo...mounting-warriors.html?autoPlay=4843441096001

 

[Bluecat again]

Tui in the halves doesn't fill me with confidence. In fact it scares me. I would love to see him take the position and make it his but I don't think he's ready. Especially against the Dogs. Moving in to the halves 3 weeks ago against Newcastle and then the Roosters would have let him settle a bit before the real contenders have to be faced. He will need so much time and support. I really hope he gets it
As for the rest I am not confident that much will change but I am looking forward to being there to watch them. Win or lose

 

[mt.wellington]

The thing I don't understand from Anderw McFadden is he said that Lolohea and Johnson were always going to be the halves pairing at some stage. Why would you then sign Robson and start Lolohea on the wing for the first 7 games of the season? Why wait until the team is 5 and 2 to introduce your ideal halves pairing?

No sane person would do that. If his intention was to play Tuimoala Lolohea in the halves this season he would have played him there during preseason, the trials and gambled on him during the first quarter of the season.

I thought his plan was to bring Tuimoala into the halves next year? Or at least ease him in slowly.

The only way it makes sense IMO is he's hoping Tui will save his job. To me it reeks of desperation. Last roll of the dice material...

 

[jonno]

Lolohea wasn't amazing last time he played in the halves. Fusitua wasn't amazing last time he played FG. Hurrell isn't amazing off the bench. Gubb wasn't amazing against Manly. Wright has never been amazing ever (but he's the people's champ so leave it out). Luke and Sheck were amazing before they got here. It's only amazing how bad Mannerings offloads are.

I'm not planning on being amazed with what I see from Cappys team this weekend, cause I'm expecting Mannering to put his off loads away.

 

[Ever Hopeful]

Has there been any press release on where Robbo is this weekend?

His absence from all grades could set an overactive imagination into a tailspin.

If he is just having a rest or visiting family it would be nice to know. Likewise if he is suffering a niggle.

 

[mrblonde]

No sane person would do that. If his intention was to play Tuimoala Lolohea in the halves this season he would have played him there during preseason, the trials and gambled on him during the first quarter of the season.

I thought his plan was to bring Tuimoala into the halves next year? Or at least ease him in slowly.

The only way it makes sense IMO is he's hoping Tui will save his job. To me it reeks of desperation. Last roll of the dice material...

Maybe he thought "Well, since he's here and Thomas is injured, let's start with Robbo, he's experienced in the halves, is more steady than Shaun, that might work! And let's see how a switch to 6 works for Shaun while we're at it!" On the basis that he thought Luke was an 80m hoor (hooker in Sopranos lingo) so Thomas was 2nd choice half but injured so up steps Robbo. But he didn't step up - what is he, 2nd in missed tackles so far in the NRL? Even so, yes, if he thought Tui was a future half why not start the season off with him, then if things fell apart before Thomas was ready, try Jeff (who in the meantime was in the NSW Cup, or maybe NRL bench value - didn't he play hooker at the Sharks on occassion?) It speaks to me of a conservative approach more than anything else at this point. An approach that didn't pay off, both for Jeff's poor form and Issac's not-80m worthy performances, but hindsight's a great thing.

 

[jonno]

Maybe Robo was put into the 7 jersey to show Shaun Johnson how it's done organizing a team Aussie style. Robo was obviously terrible at basic defense and other stuff, but the structures looked very tidy when Robo was passing the ball. If Shaun Johnson can bring that into his game then it might just work having Tui out there.

Imagine Robo with Shaun Johnson's youth, sidestep and pace. That's what we're needing this weekend from the golden boot.

Cause Tui sure as isn't that guy. He's best running around after the forwards, looking for offloads. Just doing that all game makes our pack way more effective, even if they don't throw an offload. And if one comes off Tui will slice and dice as well as anyone.

So we're going for a one half option, with a specialist support runner through the middle. Could be awesome.

But Sappy will probably have Tui at first receiver. He's just that kind of guy.

 

[Dunedin warrior]

I think Tui is playing there as a stop gap measure as Robson isn't playing well and Tommy can't play 80 yet. That lineup also allows him to drop Konnie from the bench and have Tui to cover the backline which given our injuries and bench is needed.

Also puts more responsibility on Shaun Johnson which might snap him out of his slump. I am excited to see Tui have a go at 6 and it's a great opportunity for him to show what he can do he should be coming in with a lot of confidence and he has the talent to play six in my opinion.

Kudos on Cappy for having the balls to make the change it can't be easy when your job is a week by week proposition.

 

[Freddie Futler]

I think the main problem with our young guys is that they pump themselves up on Adrenaline (fear factor) when they face these grizzled old NRL forwards and when that fight or flight syndrome kicks in then brains go out the door.

When a man is pumped with adrenaline there is no logic it is more fight for survival and I definitely see that in the likes of Gubb, Lisone and Gavet.

With time and more experience they will learn controlled aggression and become better players which is why Bennett says they need 100 games at this level before they make it.

One of the ways to help with this transition is to have stable players around you with a cool head like the Campions and Prices and although he cops a lot of shit on here Lilyman for his low mistake no nonsense style.

 

[Run_it_str8]

I think the main problem with our young guys is that they pump themselves up on Adrenaline (fear factor) when they face these grizzled old NRL forwards and when that fight or flight syndrome kicks in then brains go out the door.

When a man is pumped with adrenaline there is no logic it is more fight for survival and I definitely see that in the likes of Gubb, Lisone and Gavet.

With time and more experience they will learn controlled aggression and become better players which is why Bennett says they need 100 games at this level before they make it.

One of the ways to help with this transition is to have stable players around you with a cool head like the Campions and Prices and although he cops a lot of shit on here Lilyman for his low mistake no nonsense style.

I hoped Mannering and Hoffman (both 80min players) would provide the cool heads.

But Hoffman appears to be carrying the weight of being the team captain each time these frequent mistakes happen and when refs appear to be against us.

He has been making that Mannering face at some post match media conferences.