Team List NRL 2016 Round 7 - Bulldogs vs Warriors TEAM LIST

[Matulino's Left Shoulder]

We better score 30+ points cause thats the only way we're winning this folks lol.
Aint gonna be able to keep the Dogs out.

 

[Gizzyfan]

My view what these guys are missing is balance in their lives. Isn't Albert Vete doing tertiary studies. Ben Henry is another who comes over well when interviewed.

When the players who only have the game as a focus start struggling they have really nothing to fall back on. Albert can hit the books or whatever to refocus himself. This also has a lot to do with the mental health issues in the game and society in general. X Box is not the same.

The All Blacks were mentioned. They are grounded and reminded that they are only the custodians of the jersey. They are expected to contribute off the field as well. All players have a turn sweeping out the changing rooms after test matches.

Basically smart people make smart players, race is irrelevant. My belief is that if they improve themselves off the field they will better able to improve on it if the work is done.

 

[6 Again]

The All Blacks were mentioned. They are grounded and reminded that they are only the custodians of the jersey. They are expected to contribute off the field as well. All players have a turn sweeping out the changing rooms after test matches.

Good call, I wonder who sweeps out the Warriors change room, the issues with our performances are more than skin deep and won't be solved by switching our winger to stand off.

 

[Wellington Warrior]

Can anyone tell me why Gubb is getting another game after last weeks atrocious performance? lol

Game is in Wellington....he is from Wellington...

 

[jonno]

'He brings a lot of energy' Mannering
Thu 14th April, 11:49AM
[parsehtml]<script height="349px" width="620px" src="https://player.ooyala.com/iframe.js#ec=hiYzdzMjE6qgWnV6hVr4bwXGpqMA4ibp&pbid=fd5fc71d2bcc4b60a622cf8d3348d605"></script>[/parsehtml]Simon Mannering spoke to media ahead of the Vodafone Warriors match against the Bulldogs in Wellington.

https://www.warriors.kiwi/news/2016/04/14/mannering_.af_video.html

Pretty good interview with Juju there moving forward to the Bulldogs game, some good Q&A particularly with the second journalist breaking down the Warriors play from the Manly game in terms of where the improvement needs to come and importantly how to implement those improvements.

A bit off topic but what I've found troubling is our younger players inability when asked by the media to make an assessment of a past game or the opposition they are facing and that got me thinking, I know media interviews don't always come naturally but I find many of our young boys seem to possess almost no rugby league vocabulary or at most a very limited one. I don't think I'm being too harsh here, these are young men 21,22,23 years of age and should be able to find words to express a point of view on the game or a specific team one way or the other.

I'm treading into murky waters here so I'll be careful, without wanting to over generalize we know our Polynesian players physically develop much faster than their Caucasian cousins, again it's a generalization but is it fair to suggest that Caucasians develop mentally much quicker that non Caucasians, is English not spoken as a first language an inhibiting factor in the mental development for some of our young stars.

Without possession of the language or the vocabulary of the game it has to be a limiting factor, from fully understanding the coaches and staff through to mentally reading and assessing the game. It's only one aspect but is this a fair conclusion we can draw for why in part we struggle to mentally foot it with mentally tougher teams in the NRL.

Our errors either come from poor decisions with the football or from poor discipline. Some players have mental frailties Gubb for example has admitted to the "red mist" mentality which lands us in trouble with the officials, other players don't read the game well, take Konnie as an example, he lacks the mental capability to understand a play as it's unfolding in defense and it manifests itself in poor communication or lack of a "rugby league vocabulary" so says nothing to his mates around him or worse the wrong thing. I don't want to pick our player apart but it helps to understand their weaknesses if we can break it down into smaller pieces. What are the mental frailties or deficiencies of our players and how do the coaches, JD and the rest of the staff address them.

We may be 2-4 for the season but were hardly ever beaten by the opposition, we nearly always find a way to implode in some shape or form and that goes right back in time. JD needs to look harder at the mental aspect of our side because good footwork and a tricky offload or flick pass will only get you middle of the table in this competition. As fans were looking more than anything for a consistent mentality from our players that manifests itself on the field, where they aim up every single week and play for each other and their fans.

I can't help but think to the all blacks, they just don't seem to face the same problems with mental toughness that the Warriors do, same country, same people different mentality ... if you found the answer to that conundrum you could sell it to Eric Watson and retire.

Nar I think its just the refs fucking us..

 

[kingzaya]

Lolohea to 6 is what weve been waiting for, however with TL back, I think hes wasted on the bench and would like to see him paired with Shaun Johnson, and Lolohea to explode from the centres.

Not sure about Lisone and Gubb though. No way our forwards will come close to the dogs pack, would rather have had 2 of Lane, Vete and Gavet in there this week. At least try and match packs.

 

[Run_it_str8]

Game is in Wellington....he is from Wellington...

Hair style and fanclub.

 

[Run_it_str8]

Lolohea to 6 is what weve been waiting for, however with TL back, I think hes wasted on the bench and would like to see him paired with Shaun Johnson, and Lolohea to explode from the centres.

Not sure about Lisone and Gubb though. No way our forwards will come close to the dogs pack, would rather have had 2 of Lane, Vete and Gavet in there this week. At least try and match packs.

Lolohea is worth a go at 6 imo. But I would give him the rest of the season to develop next to and with Shaun Johnson. So I am willing to be more patient with Tui than with Robson as his experience did not pay off as hoped.

My Lolohea, Leuluai mix would be

Leuluai at 9.
Lolohea at 6.
Luke on the bench in a Granville Cowboys way.

Then Leuluai covers as backup for Tui.
Luke rotates for Leuluai.

Maybe a bench of Luke, Matulino, Sao and Vete if Lillyman can guide Lisone as starters?

 

[Run_it_str8]

With Tommy on the bench and the versatility of Tui we have cover for the backline so Konkrete to NSW cup and Sao back would get my vote.

I would like to see Konstipation start instead of Wright.

 

[Angus Young]

For fucksake Warriors enough of the bullshit. Please come out and dominate and then go on a roll and make the top 8 maybe 4... why is that so fkn hard to ask..

 

[j2004]

I still can't believe it
Ali lauititi and shaun lane should be on the bench

 

[Socrates]

Shut up waterboy

 

[Deranged]

For fucksake Warriors enough of the bullshit. Please come out and dominate and then go on a roll and make the top 8 maybe 4... why is that so fkn hard to ask..

Well it would be a lot easier if every other team wasn't trying to do the exact same thing.

 

[1995Warriorsfan]

Maybe Cappy has got this master plan for this team that no one knows about, a plan so cunning you could stick a tail on it and call it weasel

 

[jonno]

Lolohea's job is to follow the forwards around as they make their hit ups and hold off defenders IMO. If he's patient and waits for the sweet offload he'll get the result. He really just needs to hang around the ruck to be a threat.

Then it's up to Luke and Shaun Johnson to lead the team, and Sheck to pop up in the back line.

Sound's fucken good in theory.

 

[jonno]

Maybe Cappy has got this master plan for this team that no one knows about, a plan so cunning you could stick a tail on it and call it weasel

If that plan involves a new super coach....

 

[mrblonde]

I can't help but think to the all blacks, they just don't seem to face the same problems with mental toughness that the Warriors do, same country, same people different mentality ... if you found the answer to that conundrum you could sell it to Eric Watson and retire.

In fairness to the Warriors, they aren't the same people. They're cherry-picked from Super Rugby - obviously rugby's NRL. I think it's fairer to compare the Warriors to any of our Super Rugby teams and yes, those players seem to have more mental composure than the Warriors do (Blues maybe not so much so is it an Auckland thing? Do Laumape and Fisiiiahi look/play more composed now they're in rugby for instance?)

Maybe Cappy has got this master plan for this team that no one knows about, a plan so cunning you could stick a tail on it and call it weasel

If that plan involves a new super coach....

Todd Blackadder!! Yessah!!

 

[6 Again]

In fairness to the Warriors, they aren't the same people. They're cherry-picked from Super Rugby - obviously rugby's NRL. I think it's fairer to compare the Warriors to any of our Super Rugby teams and yes, those players seem to have more mental composure than the Warriors do (Blues maybe not so much so is it an Auckland thing? Do Laumape and Fisiiiahi look/play more composed now they're in rugby for instance?)

The two franchises have certainly dove tailed each other in recent years.

Maybe Auckland is now the soft under belly of NZ when it comes to those qualities.

 

[Gizzyfan]

In Union Auckland has always been reliant on imports. Off the top of my head, Carlos Spencer, the Brooke brothers, Rico Gear, Adrian Cashmore. With the Blues you can include many other players in North Harbour particularly.

In League Auckland is without doubt the heartland. The whole problem is getting players developed from their clubs etc up to NRL standard.

 

[Dunedin warrior]

You can't compare the resources involved in the all blacks and even the super teams to nz rugby league. There is no chance of the Nzru saying we can't afford to send our secondary schools team over to Australia for example. These resources flow through to schools coaching and hence when they get to 20 they are more rounded. ditto with league in Australia.

Our young talent are great in a lot of ways but they lack a true awareness of the game compared to their oz counterparts, I believe it can be taught but we are always going to be a couple years behind due to the lack of resources in the earlier years.