General NRL 2016 Round 2 - General Discussion

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NRL 2016 Round 2 - General Discussion
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A thread for all 2016 Round 2 team lists, discussions, news and views. Serves as a team list thread and game day discussion for all games through the week. A new like this thread will open every Tuesday for team list Tuesday.

Feel free to add team lists as they become available people. Thank you...

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[Selector]

Looking forward to seeing which Kiwi eligible players make their NRL debut this round. With Segeyaro and Katoa out injured you'd think ZDC would be a good chance to make his NRL debut for the Panthers this weekend.

From Having Luke, as pretty much the only Kiwi hooker jn the NRL. To now having Havili, Cherrington, Levi, Katoa and now possibly ZDC all playing NRL that hooker depth is developing nicely.

 

[mt.wellington]

PANTHERS V BULLDOGS - THURS 10 MAR, 8.05PM PEPPER STADIUM

Panthers
1 Will Smith
2 Josh Mansour
3 Waqa Blake
4 Peta Hiku
5 Dallin Watene-Zelezniak
6 Jamie Soward
7 Peter Wallace
8 Sam McKendry
9 Tyrone Peachey
10 Reagan Campbell-Gillard
11 Bryce Cartwright
12 Isaah Yeo
13 Trent Merrin

Interchange
14 James Fisher-Harris
15 Jeremy Latimore
16 Suaia Matagi
17 Elijah Taylor
20 Sitaleki Akauola

Coach: Anthony Griffin

Bulldogs
1 Will Hopoate
2 Curtis Rona
3 Josh Morris
4 Kerrod Holland
5 Sam Perrett
6 Josh Reynolds
7 Moses Mbye
8 Aiden Tolman
9 Craig Garvey
10 James Graham (c)
11 Josh Jackson
12 Tony Williams
13 Greg Eastwood

Interchange
14 Sam Kasiano
15 Tim Browne
16 David Klemmer
17 Adam Elliott
19 Lloyd Perrett

Coach: Des Hasler

BRONCOS V WARRIORS - FRI 11 MAR, 8.05PM, SUNCORP STADIUM

Broncos
1 Darius Boyd
2 Corey Oates
3 Jack Reed
4 James Roberts
5 Greg Eden
6 Anthony Milford
7 Ben Hunt
8 Josh McGuire
9 Andrew McCullough
10 Adam Blair
11 Alex Glenn
12 Matt Gillett
13 Corey Parker (c)

Interchange
14 Jarrod Wallace
15 Sam Thaiday
16 Joe Ofahengaue
17 Kodi Nikorima
18 Joe Boyce

Coach: Wayne Bennett

Warriors
1 Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
2 Tuimoala Lolohea
3 Blake Ayshford
4 Solomone Kata
5 Manu Vatuvei
6 Shaun Johnson
7 Jeff Robson
8 Jacob Lillyman
9 Issac Luke
10 Ben Matulino
11 Bodene Thompson
12 Ryan Hoffman (c)
13 Simon Mannering

Interchange
14 Nathaniel Roache
15 Sam Lisone
16 James Gavet
17 Raymond Faitala-Mariner

Coach: Andrew McFadden

RAIDERS V ROOSTERS - SAT 12 MAR, 3.00PM, GIO STADIUM

Raiders
1 Jack Wighton
2 Edrick Lee
3 Jarrod Croker (c)
4 Joseph Leilua
5 Jordan Rapana
6 Lachlan Croker
7 Sam Williams
8 Shannon Boyd
9 Josh Hodgson
10 Frank-Paul Nuuausala
11 Josh Papalii
12 Elliot Whitehead
13 Shaun Fensom

Interchange
14 Kurt Baptiste
15 Iosia Soliola
16 Paul Vaughan
17 Jeff Lima

Coach: Ricky Stuart

Roosters
1 Blake Ferguson
2 Daniel Tupou
3 Dale Copley
4 Shaun Kenny-Dowall
5 Latrell Mitchell
6 Jayden Nikorima
7 Jackson Hastings
8 Kane Evans
9 Jake Friend (c)
10 Dylan Napa
11 Aidan Guerra
12 Mitchell Aubusson
13 Isaac Liu

Interchange
14 Sio Siua Taukeiaho
15 Sam Moa
16 Ian Henderson
17 Vincent Leuluai
19 Joe Burgess

Coach: Trent Robinson

RABBITOHS V KNIGHTS - SAT 12 MARCH, 5.30PM, ANZ STADIUM

Rabbitohs
1 Greg Inglis (c)
2 Alex Johnston
3 Bryson Goodwin
4 Hymel Hunt
5 Aaron Gray
6 Cody Walker
7 Luke Keary
8 George Burgess
9 Cameron McInnes
10 David Tyrrell
11 Paul Carter
12 Kyle Turner
13 Sam Burgess

Interchange
14 Damien Cook
15 Jason Clark
16 Nathan Brown
17 Chris Grevsmuhl
18 Kirisome Auva'a

Coach: Michael Maguire

Knights
1 Jaelen Feeney
2 Nathan Ross
3 Dane Gagai
4 Pat Mata'utia
5 Akuila Uate
6 Jarrod Mullen
7 Trent Hodkinson
8 Sam Mataora
9 Tyler Randell
10 Korbin Sims
11 Jacob Safiti
12 Robbie Rochow
13 Jeremy Smith

Interchange
14 Danny Levi
15 David Bhana
16 Lachlan Fitzgibbon
17 Daniel Safiti
18 Sione Mata'utia
21 Kade Snowden

Coach: Nathan Brown

EELS V COWBOYS - SAT 12 MAR, 7.30PM, PIRTEK STADIUM

Eels
1 Michael Gordon
2 Semi Radradra
3 Michael Jennings
4 Brad Takairangi
5 Clint Gutherson
6 Corey Norman
7 Kieran Foran (c)
8 Junior Paulo
9 Nathan Peats
10 Tim Mannah (c)
11 Manu Ma'u
12 Beau Scott
13 Tepai Moeroa

Interchange
14 Kaysa Pritchard
15 Peni Terepo
16 Danny Wicks
17 Ken Edwards
18 Daniel Alvaro

Coach: Brad Arthur

Cowboys
1 Lachlan Coote
2 Kyle Feldt
3 Justin O'Neill
4 Kane Linnett
5 Antonio Winterstein
6 Michael Morgan
7 Johnathan Thurston (c)
8 Matthew Scott (c)
9 Jake Granville
10 James Tamou
11 Gavin Cooper
12 Ethan Lowe
13 Jason Taumalolo

Interchange
14 Rory Kostjasyn
15 John Asiata
16 Scott Bolton
17 Ben Hannant

Coach: Paul Green

SHARKS V DRAGONS - SUN 13 MAR, 4.00PM, SHARK PARK

Sharks
1 Ben Barba
2 Sosaia Feki
3 Jack Bird
4 Ricky Leutele
5 Valentine Holmes
6 James Maloney
7 Chad Townsend
8 Andrew Fifita
9 Michael Ennis
10 Sam Tagataese
11 Luke Lewis
12 Wade Graham
13 Jayson Bukuya

Interchange
14 Gerard Beale
15 Matt Prior
16 David Fifita
17 Joseph Paulo

Coach: Shane Flanagan

Dragons
1 Kurt Mann
2 Euan Aitken
3 Josh Dugan
4 Tim Lafai
5 Jason Nightingale
6 Gareth Widdop (c)
7 Benji Marshall
8 Leeson Ah Mau
9 Mitch Rein
10 Russell Packer
11 Tyson Frizell
12 Will Matthews
13 Mike Cooper

Interchange
14 Ben Creagh (c)
15 Jack de Belin
16 Dunamis Lui
17 Siliva Havili
18 Peter Mata'utia
19 Jakke Marketo

Coach: Paul McGregor

STORM V TITANS - SUN 13 MAR, 6.30PM, AAMI PARK

Storm
1 Billy Slater
2 Young Tonumaipea
3 Will Chambers
4 Cameron Munster
5 Marika Koroibete
6 Blake Green
7 Cooper Cronk
8 Jesse Bromwich
9 Cameron Smith (c)
10 Jordan McLean
11 Kevin Proctor
12 Tohu Harris Harris
13 Dale Finucane

Interchange
14 Kenny Bromwich
15 Tim Glasby
16 Felise Kaufusi
17 Christian Welch

Coach: Craig Bellamy

Titans
1 David Mead
2 Anthony Don
3 Josh Hoffman
4 Nathan Davis
5 John Olive
6 Tyrone Roberts
7 Ashley Taylor
8 David Shillington
9 Nathan Friend (c)
10 Agnatius Paasi
11 Zeb Taia
12 Chris McQueen
13 Greg Bird

Interchange
14 Eddy Pettybourne
15 Ryan James
16 Leivaha Pulu
17 Daniel Mortimer
18 Luke Douglas
19 Will Zillman (c)

Coach: Neil Henry

TIGERS V SEA EAGLES - MON 14 MAR, 7.00PM, LEICHHARDT

Wests Tigers
1 James Tedesco
2 David Nofoaluma
3 Tim Simona
4 Kevin Naiqama
5 Jordan Rankin
6 Mitchell Moses
7 Luke Brooks
8 Aaron Woods (c)
9 Dene Halatau
10 Tim Grant
11 Curtis Sironen
12 Chris Lawrence
13 Sauaso Sue

Interchange
14 Kyle Lovett
15 Joshua Aloiai
16 Ava Seumanufagai
17 Manaia Cherrington
18 Michael Chee Kam

Coach: Jason Taylor

Sea Eagles
1 Tom Trbojevic
2 Jorge Taufua
3 Jamie Lyon (c)
4 Steve Matai
5 Brayden Wiliame
6 Dylan Walker
7 Daly Cherry-Evans
8 Josh Starling
9 Apisai Koroisau
10 Nate Myles
11 Lewis Brown
12 Martin Taupau
13 Jake Trbojevic

Interchange
14 Matt Parcell
15 Nathan Green
16 Brenton Lawrence
17 Siosaia Vave

Coach: Trent Barrett

https://www.nrl.com/round-2-nrl-team-lists/tabid/10874/newsid/93561/default.aspx

 

[Selector]

Disappointed to see no Kiwi eligible players making their NRL debut this round.

Thought ZDC might have been a chance with the Panthers. Katoa expects to return from injury next week for the panthers might get a bench spot next week.

Also wonder how long the Panthers will preserver with the Wallace/Sandoe duo. If they lose again this weekend the noise for Te Maire Martin to make his NRL debut will continue to grow louder.

 

[Lord Gnome of Howick MBE]

Notice how no ex-warrior player who's made it is a 3/4?

 

[mt.wellington]

The Panthers bench is full of ex Warriors players...

 

[Defence]

Notice how no ex-warrior player who's made it is a 3/4?

Feki, hiku

 

[Horriors2014]

Fuck I think we're going to get rooted this week. Broncos have a great team. They will open our middle up using Reed/Roberts and Thaiday off the bench. What a dangerous Centre pairing. The pack is settled, experienced and skillful. We'really fucked......

Unless we go on an attacking blitz with our spine clicking....

 

[Selector]

Feki, hiku

Il counter that with Siuatonga Likiliki.

 

[Defence]

Il counter that with Siuatonga Likiliki.

How is that a counter?
The fact that some didn't make it doesn't change the fact that some did.

 

[Selector]

How is that a counter?
The fact that some didn't make it doesn't change the fact that some did.

It's not really a conuter. It was more tounge n cheek. Highlighting the fact that for every ex Warriors player who has made it as a centre in the NRL there is one who didn't. Hence highlighting why it's a pointless discussion or argument.

But that I suppose that would defeat the purpose of a forum like this.

 

[surfin]

It's not really a conuter. It was more tounge n cheek. Highlighting the fact that for every ex Warriors player who has made it as a centre in the NRL there is one who didn't. Hence highlighting why it's a pointless discussion or argument.

But that I suppose that would defeat the purpose of a forum like this.

When he signed with the Knights I thought, damn why would you let him go. Pretty obvious now.

 

[OMG]

How is that a counter?
The fact that some didn't make it doesn't change the fact that some did.

All though Hiku is now a Centre, he was developed mostly at Wing for the juniors, IMO this highlights how far wrong we are with our development.

Even worse is the fact we are still trying to develop mini Beasts that have that many fundamental flaws for either Centre or Wing that it's ridiculous.
The Centre and Wing depth we are seeing for the Kiwis is quite amazing and all of them have skill levels that are far greater than anyone at the club.

 

[Defence]

It's not really a conuter. It was more tounge n cheek. Highlighting the fact that for every ex Warriors player who has made it as a centre in the NRL there is one who didn't. Hence highlighting why it's a pointless discussion or argument.

But that I suppose that would defeat the purpose of a forum like this.

I'm not sure who was arguing?
Lord gnome just pointed out that there was no ex warrior 3/4s who had made it and I pointed out there were two named in the teams directly above his post.
The only one who seemed to be arguing was you by bringing likiliki into it.
I think we were probably both reading something into each other's posts that wasn't actually there.
All good.

 

[Defence]

All though Hiku is now a Centre, he was developed mostly at Wing for the juniors, IMO this highlights how far wrong we are with our development.

Even worse is the fact we are still trying to develop mini Beasts that have that many fundamental flaws for either Centre or Wing that it's ridiculous.
The Centre and Wing depth we are seeing for the Kiwis is quite amazing and all of them have skill levels that are far greater than anyone at the club.

The thing about "developing" wingers is that the majority of nrl wingers didn't play there growing up- you'll find most of them were centers or fullbacks- even halves because when u have a real stand out junior their coaches want them to get the ball in their hands as much as possible and think they'd be wasted on the wing.
That's not just a warriors thing- that's across the board.
All the same, I have always thought it was strange that we haven't produced many good wingers ( apart from Manu I'm struggling to think of another one) when from an athletic pov big fast Polynesians seem like the perfect fit.
I don't buy into the argument that we're all too dumb but there's got to be something there because Union seem to pump them out by the dozen- maybe we should just pillage a couple from them? ( although if they're resorting to signing the likes of Duffy maybe I'm giving them a bit too much credit).
Playing guys like Toka Likiliki and maumalo on the wing is pretty ridiculous and you're right that they need to look at the type of players they're putting the development into but at this stage that's a long term fix. Short term I think we have to recruit.
Winterstein and Rona are both off contract ( someone mentioned linnett as well) one of them would be perfect.
I can see Lillyman, Lousi, benry and konnie all leaving at the end of the year ( if not sooner) there's likely to be a couple more shown the door too so money shouldn't be an issue.

 

[Rick O'Shay]

All the same, I have always thought it was strange that we haven't produced many good wingers ( apart from Manu I'm struggling to think of another one) when from an athletic pov big fast Polynesians seem like the perfect fit.

Thought Ulberg and Aoaki were reasonable wing prospects. Not big guys admittedly but were good finishers in the Junior side.

 

[Defence]

Thought Ulberg and Aoaki were reasonable wing prospects. Not big guys admittedly but were good finishers in the Junior side.

Yeah fingers crossed with them two.
I had high hopes for fish and Omar too but it just didn't work out.

 

[way2sharp]

I see Fish is injured....

 

[Freddie Futler]

Really looking forward to the Manly Tigs game just to see if the Tigs were good or if we made them look good.
Manly coming off a loss will have a point to prove.

 

[InsideBall]

Yeah fingers crossed with them two.
I had high hopes for fish and Omar too but it just didn't work out.

While Fish had the out and out pace, and Omar had the power, I don't think either of the had the raw finishing ability of Ulberg and Aoake... I still remember Aoakes first game in the juniors, he had a one on one with his man on the left wing, had absolutely no space to work with at all, and completely left him for dead with an amazing step. Keen to see how he develops.