So...just for shits and giggles I went back to 2010 to compile some Manu stats for the haters and believers.
The best way to put this to bed would probably to post our win:loss ration over the last eleven seasons with Manu either in or out of the team. If its higher with him in the team then he's been good for us, if not he's been a liability.
Move them to residual value thread, but the stats favour the manu lovers
TBF not many complaints about Manu in 2010-11, late in 2010 he was on top of his game, then he started 2011 looking amazing until that random eels player kamikazed into he’s knee in rd 1, has never look as quick since IMO, but still pretty good.
The post Ivan era (the doldrums we are still trying to escape) the warriors are
41 – 59 in total | 41.0% winning
With Vatuvei that goes up (slightly) to 36 – 45 | 44.4%
Without him 5 – 14 | 26.3%
Short story, in recent times, team is pretty hopeless in the aggregate when he isn’t out there. And this isn't even the KTM era.
The haters can point to he had the good fortune to be injured when last season went in the toilet, but he also had to captain the side when it was going through the same scenario at the end of 2012.