Post Match NRL 2015 - Rnd 13 - Rabbitohs vs Warriors Post Match Discussion

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PREACH!!

The faith mantra and "true warrior" bullshit wind me up.
IMO it's too much faith and not enough hard work that's holding this team back.

Bertrand Russell was quoted from his work “The Triumph of Stupidity”

“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today (insert "the warriors" here) is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”

I think the word "cocksure" is a good way to describe some of these guys...
 
The Warriors need to find the middle ground between arrogance and doubt. Between pride and self loathing. Between attack and defense...

What we saw on Saturday was a team with no balance swinging wildly between extremes, therefore having no attack or defense...

playing a team who are extremely well balanced, they were always going to get smashed.

If Issac Luke can get benched for being out of sync, then why can't Manu? Is that the difference between a premiership winning side and a bottom eight side?

IMO until King Manu is put in his place the whole junior squad is going to continue believing that scoring trys and making big hits is all it takes to play first grade, and their development will continue to be stunted as a result.
 
Haven't commented yet because I blew a gasket watching that tripe. No Sammy Boyle, no Adam Reynolds, and they rolled us like a Sumo dude against Pamela Anderson without implants.

Firstly, I kind of saw this train wreck coming. Let's be blunt. We'd beaten three Group 6 quality teams by 4 points. We were basic, conservative, what have you, but we still weren't mentally fluent enough to be ruthless and execute to a high level. It was like caking the shitter. Yep, you got the job done but you left a hell of a mess.

I think you can boil the Warriors issues down to two things. One, lack of intent in the defensive line. They sat and waited for those hideous ugly green and red jerseys. Sorry, cardinal and puke. Two, basic handling errors. Passing left to right and right to left has been disgraceful all year. They're both attitude issues.

And fuck me sideways, Bull you fat cu** how the hell did you bomb that try? Heads went down after that.
 
And fuck me sideways, Bull you fat cu** how the hell did you bomb that try? Heads went down after that.
That's the biggest problem IMO. One player makes a mistake and the rest of the team punishes him for it by playing like crap directly afterwards...

Zero team spirit, 100% self interest at the Warriors...
 
If Issac Luke can get benched for being out of sync, then why can't Manu? Is that the difference between a premiership winning side and a bottom eight side?

IMO until King Manu is put in his place the whole junior squad is going to continue believing that scoring trys and making big hits is all it takes to play first grade, and their development will continue to be stunted as a result.


THIS.
 
I gave up watching around the 50th minute mark. As getting control of the game got away from them and some calls didn't go their way I felt like I was watching a team having a collective brain fade, they just weren't given the opportunity to think because of the speed of the Bunnies and it seemed no one had too many ideas about what to do, so as has been said before, they seemed to let the bunnies play and simply react or go through the motions. It was boring to see that happen. I was disappointed to see Friend anywhere near the field in the first 20 minutes, he is too slow and not with it. Example, one of the Warriors got tackled he stood up to play the ball and there was no marker. Not one bunnies player within 10 fckn metres and instead of running and getting an easy 10 metres or something Friend didn't look at what was happening in front of him and passed. He fucken passed the ball to someone who looked just as dazed and the bunnies defensive line was on them That had me spewing. It just highlighted for me just going through the motions not thinking. smarts, guts, leadership is what I would like to see for the roosters game
 
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Anybody still feeling bad over what happen to us on Saturday, should spare though for Parramatta Supporters over what happened to them last night.

Dude, in my weaker moments I almost feel sorry for them ... ;)

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Permalink Reply by Daz Sul 15 hours ago

I don't know how to feel.

1st half -> best half of footy i've seen from any team this year.

2nd half -> Worst half of footy i've seen from any team this year.

Ahh, the life of an eels supporter. Hide the knives....

https://www.1eyedeel.com/forum/topi...blog?id=500401:Topic:2355082&page=15#comments
 
Anybody still feeling bad over what happen to us on Saturday, should spare though for Parramatta Supporters over what happened to them last night.

Dude, in my weaker moments I almost feel sorry for them ... ;)

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Permalink Reply by Daz Sul 15 hours ago

I don't know how to feel.

1st half -> best half of footy i've seen from any team this year.

2nd half -> Worst half of footy i've seen from any team this year.

Ahh, the life of an eels supporter. Hide the knives....

https://www.1eyedeel.com/forum/topics/eels-vs-cowboys-round13-official-match-day-blog?id=500401:Topic:2355082&page=15#comments

The Eels actually played 60 mins like champions, against killer opposition, but then were unlucky that the killer opposition woke up and turned on the NOS. Result - perfectly smoked eel. Mmmm. I did feel a little sorry for the Eels, then I remembered how the Cows pulled our pants down, how badly we got pumped by the quality team we played this round and the all too likely trajectory of our season. I then made a calculated decision to conserve my pity for later self-administration.
 
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yep exactly, when he decides, i think that decide needs to be more, i cant wait till next year with isaac luke controlling the ruck then see Shaun Johnson feed off it. but as for now, hes just gotta do more chips and stuff for himself, abit of unexpected offence. He's absolutely amazing with good go forward otherwise he reverts back to bombs and predictability. i know hardly any halves can work off the back foot but yeah.

I didn't have an issue with Shaun Johnson's game because if he was sticking to a game plan, he succeeded.
Trouble is he went the entire game waiting for the game plan to provide a break that never came.
So at some point he has to be able to recognize this and know when its time to take matters into his hands and try to make shit happen.

But the gripe I do have with him in this game is going for the "intercept" when all the team needed from him at that moment was to be a speed bump at worst.
Less then 5 minutes to go till half time!
 
Referees boss Tony Archer has confirmed his charges made a number of officiating blunders in round 13 of the NRL last weekend.

At the halfway point of the 2015 competition, the performances of the game's whistleblowers continue to come under heavy criticism, brought about by a number of contentions decisions.

Among those was a try awarded to Wests Tigers utility Chris Lawrence in the second half of the joint venture's loss to Gold Coast on Friday, a try to South Sydney three-quarter Bryson Goodwin early in the thumping of the Warriors in Perth on Saturday and a tackle on Josh Dugan in St George Illawarra's loss to Canterbury on Monday.

In his weekly video address, Archer has confirmed that Goodwin's try, before which he was run down by Shaun Johnson and appeared held, but was allowed to get up and play on by referees Jared Maxwell and Chris Butler and score, should not have been allowed.

"He was held," Archer said.

"At that point he was tackled, there is still contact on the player on the ground."

Archer also asserted that Josh Reynolds should have been penalised by referees Gerard Sutton and Chris James when the Bulldogs utility lifted Dugan in a tackle into the in-goal in a crucial period of Monday's match.

"At that point of time when Reynolds extended his leg he should have called held and if Reynolds continued it would be a penalty," Archer said.

Just as contentious was Lawrence's four-pointer late at Leichhardt Oval, awarded despite fullback James Tedesco appearing to knock the ball on in the lead up.

Archer stopped short of saying the right decision was made, instead mounting an unconvincing case for why the try was awarded after the on-field referee motioned with the 'T' try sign before sending the decision upstairs.

"I understand why the video referee didn't have sufficient evidence to overturn that," he said.

"I understand how they came up with that decision."

At least we know that we are justified in whinging about this one.

Certainly not the only reason we lost, but gee that try was deflating. You've got to wonder if the game would have panned out differently if we'd gotten a penalty and wound up on the attack. I don't think we would have won or anything, but it wouldn't have been such a hammering.
 

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I want mention of the time george burgess carries the ball behind his teammate with kata touching said teammate and sends it out wide, that was arguably more offensive as all that had to do was a cursory "i have a try, check any obstruction in the lead up" and its overturned in 20 seconds.

of course the game was over as a contest at that point.

About six weeks away from getting into debates over points differential, remember that time we conceeded some late tries to the raiders by playing with 12?

But balanced officiating (and lillyman holding onto the ball over the line) and that was a 12 point loss not a 30 point one.
 
The first 20 minutes or so we produced a few chances; Manu out wide and Lillyman losing the ball off the offload pretty much over the line. The story of season so far really in terms of our offense; close but not really clicking.

I can't recall too many refereeing decisions that got me to wound up. Maybe the young winger getting taken out while going for a high ball, Townsend getting taking out after putting up a bomb, then Thompson getting held down before getting pushed over slowing down the play the ball. The last one probably frustrated me as the game was well lost by then and we weren't getting any penalties. But those decisions aside the defence being a shambles was the main problem. Hopefully the coach has torn them a new one and we see a lift in standards this weekend.

I know it's been called to scrap the game in Perth but we need to get a win over there soon. If they get a team soon we wouldn't want to be going over there in round 26 needing a win to make the finals. It might be best we continue with the fixture and find a way to get our shit together and win over there. This year was more disappointing than previous years whereas the last few years we have been competitive before fading.
 
Warriors victims in weekend of NRL referee howlers
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Warriors half Shaun Johnson put in a try-saving tackle agasint the Rabbitohs in Perth - only the referee robbed him of the glory, awarding the try instead.


Referees boss Tony Archer has confirmed match officials made a mistake in awarding a try against the Warriors in their loss to the South Sydney Rabbitohs at the weekend.

The admission was one of three officiating blunders in round 13 of the NRL confirmed by Archer on Tuesday.

The wrong decision was made in the Warriors game when Bryson Goodwin was awarded a try. Archer said the Rabbitohs star had been run down by Warriors half Shaun Johnson who tackled him. Goodwin got up from the tackle and went on to score a try with referees Jared Maxwell and Chris Butler ruling he was not held.

Archer disagreed.

"He was held," Archer said.

"At that point he was tackled, there is still contact on the player on the ground."
 
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I know people will say 'what good is it now', but I really like the ref report style thing Archer is doing. To demonstrate genuine accountability in the ref ranks though, it'd be nice for Maxwell to get dropped for a week or two, but I don't know what the ref's depth is like.

Refs are only human and mistakes will be made, but Maxwell and Butler were terrible in that game (the Goodwin try being the worst, though we made it worse still by not playing to the whistle). Refereeing this year has been poor across the board, imo. Refs are just getting the grey area stuff wrong too often (calling strips that aren't, lost balls that are strips, rewarding milking at the ruck, the list goes on). I really hope the quality picks up going in to the back half of the year, especially if we end up with a sniff of the finals.