Gameday < 2021 Manly vs Warriors Gameday Chatter [Round 19, 2016]

[Dankokoro 2.0]

We were absolutely dominating them, why the hell would you change that just so you can say everyone got a go? I hate wasting a bench spot, but considering the flow of the game that's not the reason we lost at all.

Using this game to throw blame on Cappy is nonsense.

Not all his fault. obviously. But how did his selections help. Was it a smart decision to have manu return for that game? in those conditions? He had an awful game and are you surprised? is anyone surprised?

Was it a smart decision to leave a better player on the bench and then not use him?

those decisions arguably cost us this tight game.. as they arguably did against the sharks.. if you can explain those decisions and convince me they're not doing our chances any harm i'd love to hear it. because they make zero sense to me. They make zero sense to the commentary team. Seriously. in 2 of the last 3 games he's had lolohea, one of our most talented players and best attacking weapons spend 150 minutes out of 160 minutes on the bench.

 

[Far North Forever]

McFadden would be the dumbest fucken coach going around. Why would he rest Issac for Jazz under those conditions 5 before half 15 after comes back fresh. Lolohea should have played at least 20 for either Manu or Kata. Where the fuck was Bunty last 20 most dangerous runner. McFuckup knows he's gone so he's fucking us the prick.

 

[Danpatmac]

Manu's unhappy. It's very obvious.
Lay off a bit.

this is a results business. if he isnt up to it then he shouldnt be on the field

 

[bruce]

We had these fuckers on roast in the second half.

All we did was even up on the first half, but both the kicking and forward running metres favoured them.

 

[Raider1]

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His hitups lacked punch compared with previous seasons, he played more like a forward than a winger. I think Lolohea should have been on the wing and Manu could have been a relieving forward. We might have got more yards up the middle.

Serious though...week in and week out,, How can we have a winger doing more hitups than most of the forwards,,,Looks like some of them got to go too

 

[bruce]

I'd rather see a smaller, quicker winger that has more than a good chance of scoring.

Cappy is definitely a fan of tall wingers e.g. Jonno Wright

 

[hoolioh]

Dumb fucks I'm furious . dominated that second half. Don't wana bash on the coach but heck people need to know there rolls lisone for fuck sake what were you thinking. Johnson needs to learn how to dropkick and when its even on! How many fucking times did we miss a repeat set cause some fool over runs the kick just dive at them an push them over the line. Credit to manly 100% completion after 50mins in that shit is pretty good but hell we need to be smarter an that starts with U cappy

 

[Viking]

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Serious though...week in and week out,, How can we have a winger doing more hitups than most of the forwards,,,Looks like some of them got to go too

Cos it's in the gameplan just like Mannering making half of Hoffmans tackles for him in most weeks. 63 from Mannering this week and 24 from Hoffman. Even Bunty made 32 in on 56 minutes.

 

[Nz_Warrior]

The game wasn't lost because Cappy kept Lolohea on the bench.

Was it a fucking stupid decision - absolutely. No one is despising that.
This was one of the most controlled and dominant half of footy I've seen us play in 18 months. We had the quality and field position to Win easily; Tui or no Tui.

Am I condoning McFaddens performances? No. I hate the guy and personally belief he can't coach at an NRL level. But looking at this game for what it is, was us throwing away another win.

Absolutely disgusted in everyone out there.

 

[Selector]

Was I the only one who noticed that on more than one occasion, coming out of the Warriors end, when Manu was running for a hit up the dummy half skipped Manu and passed it to someone else?

Probably reading too much into it, but was it a case of the other players not trusting Manu to be able to hold the ball, and not make an error in the conditions?

 

[bruce]

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Serious though...week in and week out,, How can we have a winger doing more hitups than most of the forwards,,,Looks like some of them got to go too

It shows our forwards aren't doing it, and until they do we won't get anywhere. Just imagine the Dogs with our backline? Look how the Cronulla forwards make their backs look so good, and while we are at it Manly has a crap back line in comparison.

 

[Jordan G]

Did we win the game? Winning is all that matters does it not?.


I'm not just using this game, I'm using this game and the previous games since he has been coach.

The fact is the team hasn't made the playoffs once since McFadden has been coach,

If he wasn't gonna use Lolohea would it not have made better sense to select another forward on the bench. So yes in my view McFadden's use of the bench f**ks over again.

Your post was specifically about this game, I replied to that post, don't try and make it about anything else because Cappy was not the reason we lost this specific game.

Been saying for some time, if we don't make the 8 I expect him to go and I wouldn't be sad about it, but we lost that game for a lot of reasons that had nothing to do with Cappy.

 

[Dankokoro 2.0]

Probably reading too much into it, but was it a case of the other players not trusting Manu to be able to hold the ball, and not make an error in the conditions?

hopefully

 

[Trugoy]

this is a results business. if he isnt up to it then he shouldnt be on the field

Agree. He shouldn't be on the field.
I'm not normally one to defend players based on sympathy but imo there's something def wrong there.
Anyway I'll save the argument, it's all been said.

 

[bruce]

Was I the only one who noticed that on more than one occasion, coming out of the Warriors end, when Manu was running for a hit up the dummy half skipped Manu and passed it to someone else?

Probably reading too much into it, but was it a case of the other players not trusting Manu to be able to hold the ball, and not make an error in the conditions?

I saw it too. Manu was pumped and in good position as well. Maybe the dummy half thought they were waiting for Manu and went to the other side.

 

[Wellington Warrior]

No, Ken run just over 90m with nearly half of them being kick returns from the back while Manu run 118m with only 18m being from the back from kick returns (according to the nrlstats.com stats)

That's because Maumalo ran 200m sideways

 

[tajhay]

Post match discussion in this thread guys:
https://www.nzwarriors.com/threads/...s-warriors-post-match-discussion.50597/unread

Dont forget the rate the players from the match:
https://www.nzwarriors.com/matches/nrl-2016-r19.69/