Gameday < 2021 Manly vs Warriors Gameday Chatter [Round 13, 2020]

All games pre 2021

Who will win?

  • Warriors 13+

    Votes: 8 17.8%
  • Warriors 12-

    Votes: 14 31.1%
  • Warriors JANFIN Special by 6

    Votes: 12 26.7%
  • Manly 12-

    Votes: 6 13.3%
  • Manly 13+

    Votes: 5 11.1%

  • Total voters
    45
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wrighty

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Prediction - Due to fuck all game time and poor tutoring leading up to this moment Chanel Harris-Tavita doesn't play as well as a world class experienced half would and this forum blows up at how useless he is and how he should be as good as Cooper Cronk/Andrew Johns/ Johnathon Thurston but is clearly so shit from all the amazing coaching he has received from the world class coaches we have had during his time. Forum flooded with "Chanel Harris-Tavita is so shit"

Hope the kid doesn't feel the massive pressure and weight on his shoulders and try to win everyone over in one game. Hopefully the rest the season is used to actually teach him and give him confidence and he gets to operate behind a pack that actually pulls their panties up and digs in. Only then can we see if he has what it takes to be a long term half. Rather than all the experts here judging on the minimal time off the bench the kid has had to learn a pretty tough position.
Chanel Harris-Tavita has oscillated this year and last year between appalling and pretty damn good. He needs feedback and he needs coaching. I really find it hard understanding what is cieling is or even predicting what type of player he could be.

Let's watch tonight to get a sense of where he is at.
 
Beastmode

Beastmode

Just another day in paradise
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Critical game

Could propel us into top 8 contention

Or make us fall into the abyss....
 

Penpal

Our kicking game with Green was imperfect.

Now we have almost no strategic kicks from within our own half.

We will struggle, it was silly pushing Green out early.

Chanel Harris-Tavita and Nikorima will have to grow a boot overnight.

Ah well, this is the year not to stress about anything, we should be at the bottom of the league with no wins.

Instead we are being admired for winning a game here and there, and it has been brilliant for fans.

Just one more boys....nothing to lose, plenty to gain...for honour and glory...go get em.
Normally seeing a post on here like this would make me go "All in" but you have been around for a long time, much longer than me, with quality posts, much better than mine, so you get the respectful approach.
But here I go with my opinion on Green, especially his kicking game that is supposedly his big strength.

So far in 2020, the only people who rate Green's kicking game are the Aussie pundts who obviously don't bother to watch our games and ... nope can't think of anyone else. As a side note I've really enjoyed the option of game noise with no commentary this season!
Yip Green was good against the Broncos, the game that came shortly after it was publicly announced he needed to look elsewhere for an overinflated wage, but what other game/s did you rate his kicking game? You might be able to come back with one or maybe even two at an absolute stretch (I doubt it) but that would be it.
How frustrating has it been to see Green - who apparently has this legendary kicking game - hoist up aimless 1970s up an under, end over end style, all season long that the opposition eat up like Steven Adams catching a tennis ball in his big mitts and start their sets with no pressure at all.
I almost fell off my chair laughing when we scored off one the other week.
For a guy who is supposedly so professional etc would he not try and learn to develop some variation with floaters, spiral bombs etc to keep the opposition guessing and under pressure to hopefully force some mistakes at critical times eg when they opposition are right on their own bloody goal line?!

And Green's short kicking game? Who stood up when we finally got some repeat sets last week? Roger Tuivasa-Sheck because f**k it, we rely on him for everything else so why not that too.

We'll defo miss Green's composure though right? The same guy that didn't set for a field goal the other week when we were 12 up with 10 to go and could have lost they way things panned out. The same guy who went missing against the Titans when a bit of smart thinking and quality execution could have got us out of a hole? There have been many other examples of this, how many games do you list?

Defensively? We'll miss him for sure. Solid defender and organised which will hurt some of those who usually defend around him tonight and in the coming weeks.

In summary, our kicking game and game management has been utter shit all year long. I'm not saying Chanel Harris-Tavita and Kodi are the answer but on what Green has provided this year they are deserving of at least a chance to prove they can't do any worse. In Chanel Harris-Tavita's case on a fraction of the wage and in Kodi's case a chance to step up and be a leader without Green being the dominating half.

With all the distractions around Payten I can see the Warriors getting pumped by a well under strength Manly tonight and the theme from the Aussie's well be how did they let Green go???
If you watch the game with a couple of mates flick the commentary off and thrash out your own opinions. You won't all agree but you'll soon realise how lazy and premeditated a lot of the commentary from former Aussie players around the Warriors is.
Possibly best summed up Greg Alexander saying the other night that the Warriors have got so many strong big bodies up front they just need a hooker and a half to get they going!

Edit: Good on Green for coming over and when many wouldn't and having a go when many others wouldn't. But with an almost no existent running game, your strengths need to be game management and sound kicking game. we've seen glimpses but nothing on a consistent basis.
 
BiggerD

BiggerD

Auckland weather in Sydney today
Weather is WET WET WET and 13 degrees C now and probably 6 degrees when game kicks off.

Whoever holds the ball WINs
Low scoring and Warriors win in a sloppy one

You can just see Manly where the game is being played tonight just to the bottom right of centre


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Normally seeing a post on here like this would make me go "All in" but you have been around for a long time, much longer than me, with quality posts, much better than mine, so you get the respectful approach.
But here I go with my opinion on Green, especially his kicking game that is supposedly his big strength.

So far in 2020, the only people who rate Green's kicking game are the Aussie pundts who obviously don't bother to watch our games and ... nope can't think of anyone else. As a side note I've really enjoyed the option of game noise with no commentary this season!
Yip Green was good against the Broncos, the game that came shortly after it was publicly announced he needed to look elsewhere for an overinflated wage, but what other game/s did you rate his kicking game? You might be able to come back with one or maybe even two at an absolute stretch (I doubt it) but that would be it.
How frustrating has it been to see Green - who apparently has this legendary kicking game - hoist up aimless 1970s up an under, end over end style, all season long that the opposition eat up like Steven Adams catching a tennis ball in his big mitts and start their sets with no pressure at all.
I almost fell off my chair laughing when we scored off one the other week.
For a guy who is supposedly so professional etc would he not try and learn to develop some variation with floaters, spiral bombs etc to keep the opposition guessing and under pressure to hopefully force some mistakes at critical times eg when they opposition are right on their own bloody goal line?!

And Green's short kicking game? Who stood up when we finally got some repeat sets last week? Roger Tuivasa-Sheck because f**k it, we rely on him for everything else so why not that too.

We'll defo miss Green's composure though right? The same guy that didn't set for a field goal the other week when we were 12 up with 10 to go and could have lost they way things panned out. The same guy who went missing against the Titans when a bit of smart thinking and quality execution could have got us out of a hole? There have been many other examples of this, how many games do you list?

Defensively? We'll miss him for sure. Solid defender and organised which will hurt some of those who usually defend around him tonight and in the coming weeks.

In summary, our kicking game and game management has been utter shit all year long. I'm not saying Chanel Harris-Tavita and Kodi are the answer but on what Green has provided this year they are deserving of at least a chance to prove they can't do any worse. In Chanel Harris-Tavita's case on a fraction of the wage and in Kodi's case a chance to step up and be a leader without Green being the dominating half.

With all the distractions around Payten I can see the Warriors getting pumped by a well under strength Manly tonight and the theme from the Aussie's well be how did they let Green go???
If you watch the game with a couple of mates flick the commentary off and thrash out your own opinions. You won't all agree but you'll soon realise how lazy and premeditated a lot of the commentary from former Aussie players around the Warriors is.
Possibly best summed up Greg Alexander saying the other night that the Warriors have got so many strong big bodies up front they just need a hooker and a half to get they going!

Edit: Good on Green for coming over and when many wouldn't and having a go when many others wouldn't. But with an almost no existent running game, your strengths need to be game management and sound kicking game. we've seen glimpses but nothing on a consistent basis.
Agreed on a few points and thanks for making it very clear where you stand.

I listen to games on the radio sometimes, then get to see the replay on TV, the commentary certainly needs checking.

I also think that we shouldn’t be judging Chanel Harris-Tavita tonight or even for the rest of the season, what little there is of it left, too often we expect halves to be up to speed immediately when it is the position least easy to slot into.

People go on about them training all season with the top squad but I don't believe simulation is a substitute for game experience.

From what I have seen it takes about half a season for a combination to form when its a green new NRL player.
 
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RobRoyMcCoy

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As tragic a Warriors supporter as I am, I just can't see us winning tonight with all that is against us. I went Manly 13+.

I hope I am wrong and we win, but it is getting into miracle territory now and we only have so many of those in us at the moment.
 
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Bangbros 2023

Bangbros 2023

Man! Des hasler makes the word process sound so much better!
 

Billy Teets James

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Warriors by 4. Because, I'm part of this club til I die!(Bit over board. But you know what I'm saying lol) And I've never get agaisnt them. Lucky I don't bet. I'd be homeless by now.
 
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