General MAGIC ROUND NRL 2021 Round 10 - General Discussion

Black_jrdn

Warriors Bench Player
Nov 8, 2018
61
Just my probably unwanted opinion.
But isn’t protecting player health and future wellness More important than our entertainment?
We are talking about someons Posible quality of life and comparing it with our own short term satisfaction. Watching union they now call an offence to even minor contact to the head, it’s still plenty physical a lot of high tackles are lazy arms or poor technique, I dont know maybe I’m soft and sure maybe some calls are harsh. But I reckon They need to be to shock players into realising they can’t be careless anymore. I don’t think this change was ever about us as a fan base it’s about player welfare.
JUSt my thought.
 

Sup42

Warriors 1st Grader
May 7, 2012
23,417
Just my probably unwanted opinion.
But isn’t protecting player health and future wellness More important than our entertainment?
We are talking about someons Posible quality of life and comparing it with our own short term satisfaction. Watching union they now call an offence to even minor contact to the head, it’s still plenty physical a lot of high tackles are lazy arms or poor technique, I dont know maybe I’m soft and sure maybe some calls are harsh. But I reckon They need to be to shock players into realising they can’t be careless anymore. I don’t think this change was ever about us as a fan base it’s about player welfare.
JUSt my thought.
You are not soft.

This is correct. It is a medical question ultimately. The rest is noise from us Dinosaurs lamenting the end of an era.

Just like the shoulder charge and the Pole Axe, no place for it in the game now. I used to love seeing both those tackles put on people.


Same with fighting, man I loved fighting more than the game, but allowing that makes for poor examples to young men around violence.

I don't care what the psychologists say, seeing blokes thump each other used to make some part of me want to fight.

In fact I did get in a scrap with my brother straight after Tamati Dowling, and it was a bad fight haha but teenage boys yelling about who started what my era always ended in a punch up.

Times are changing and people have to adapt, that is just how it is.
 

Worried2Death

1st Grade Fringe
Mar 6, 2016
3,675
You are not soft.

This is correct. It is a medical question ultimately. The rest is noise from us Dinosaurs lamenting the end of an era.

Just like the shoulder charge and the Pole Axe, no place for it in the game now. I used to love seeing both those tackles put on people.


Same with fighting, man I loved fighting more than the game, but allowing that makes for poor examples to young men around violence.

I don't care what the psychologists say, seeing blokes thump each other used to make some part of me want to fight.

In fact I did get in a scrap with my brother straight after Tamati Dowling, and it was a bad fight haha but teenage boys yelling about who started what my era always ended in a punch up.

Times are changing and people have to adapt, that is just how it is.
Was your brother supporting the Aussies? I hope you beat some sense into the poor misguided kid Dave.
 

6Again

1st Grade Fringe
Jul 1, 2020
1,039
Would agree but many of these instances so far this weekend are the outcome of high speed collisions - there will always be accidents in the game, they‘ll never get them out, especially with the increase in speed and gassed players everywhere. The Teddy one was just ridiculous.
 

Sup42

Warriors 1st Grader
May 7, 2012
23,417
Was your brother supporting the Aussies? I hope you beat some sense into the poor misguided kid Dave.
He claimed Tamati started it.....I don't think he gave a stuff about Dowling, he was older, I think he just wanted to beat me up....I was saved by the old man who came in and gave us both a hiding.....for fighting....as ya do.....
 

BeastMode

Warriors 1st Grader
Mar 7, 2015
9,265
Just my probably unwanted opinion.
But isn’t protecting player health and future wellness More important than our entertainment?
We are talking about someons Posible quality of life and comparing it with our own short term satisfaction. Watching union they now call an offence to even minor contact to the head, it’s still plenty physical a lot of high tackles are lazy arms or poor technique, I dont know maybe I’m soft and sure maybe some calls are harsh. But I reckon They need to be to shock players into realising they can’t be careless anymore. I don’t think this change was ever about us as a fan base it’s about player welfare.
JUSt my thought.

Maybe they should design special helmets for the players then? I’m being serious.

Penalising players for accidental contact in a contact sport is a joke. Might as well not play at all then aye. Players and fans know the risks. It’s part of the reason why people also follow the sport.

Get rid of the biff, shoulder charge, accident contact to the head.... what next?.... penalty for tackling too hard ???? FMD we might as well just play touch rugby
 
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Mr Dragon

1st Grade Fringe
Jul 25, 2015
1,622
I can see the future, Worried2Death will be banned if he tells any jokes because it might trigger the younglings 🤣 I'm glad I'm on the way out, my way of life is over, i can see that now. Them games sucked, it was like all the fun was sucked away, the left is ruining everything. Sup42 knows my views on the left 🤣
 

wizards rage

Warriors 1st Grader
Apr 18, 2016
5,125
Tauranga
Bennet quote in support of the head high changes: "The AFL won't accept it. You touch anybody above the shoulders you're in trouble. Rugby union made a huge change two years ago,"

I used to watch the All Blacks (but not super rugby) until a few years ago. Then they stated sending players off for tackling across the shoulder and we lost a game basically because of it when someone was sent off. Haven’t watched any union game for several years since.
 

Makasene

1st Grade Fringe
May 10, 2012
1,950
Just my probably unwanted opinion.
But isn’t protecting player health and future wellness More important than our entertainment?
We are talking about someons Posible quality of life and comparing it with our own short term satisfaction. Watching union they now call an offence to even minor contact to the head, it’s still plenty physical a lot of high tackles are lazy arms or poor technique, I dont know maybe I’m soft and sure maybe some calls are harsh. But I reckon They need to be to shock players into realising they can’t be careless anymore. I don’t think this change was ever about us as a fan base it’s about player welfare.
JUSt my thought.

Although I agree with pretty much everything you say, the only thing I would add is - How will Origin be reffed?

I would bet my last buck the NRL will put our entertainment ahead of player welfare for 240mins again this season and roll out "the greatest spectacle on earth"
 

Miket12

Warriors 1st Grader
Apr 20, 2012
10,580
Bennet quote in support of the head high changes: "The AFL won't accept it. You touch anybody above the shoulders you're in trouble. Rugby union made a huge change two years ago,"

I used to watch the All Blacks (but not super rugby) until a few years ago. Then they stated sending players off for tackling across the shoulder and we lost a game basically because of it when someone was sent off. Haven’t watched any union game for several years since.
Wonder when Bennett made those comments: before or after one of his players came out of a perfectly legal tackle and earned an Oscar nomination for portraying a player who had had pressure put on his neck. A tackle that led to a penalty which led to a try that put the game out beyond the Sharks.
 

j-bob

1st Grade Fringe
May 21, 2014
222
He claimed Tamati started it.....I don't think he gave a stuff about Dowling, he was older, I think he just wanted to beat me up....I was saved by the old man who came in and gave us both a hiding.....for fighting....as ya do.....
We used to get the same thing from mum.
A hiding for fighting.

the worse ones were always when it was my older sister doing the fighting

I never fought her back. Two reasons. She was a girl and the one time I did fight back she beat me up real bad.
So I copped it from her then mum for fighting.
It made perfect sense at the time but now I am not so sure.
The 80’s were fucking brutal.
 

gREVUS

Long live the Rainbows and Butterflies
Contributor
May 8, 2012
8,755
Wonder when Bennett made those comments: before or after one of his players came out of a perfectly legal tackle and earned an Oscar nomination for portraying a player who had had pressure put on his neck. A tackle that led to a penalty which led to a try that put the game out beyond the Sharks.
then they have to bring back the penalty for acting. saw this happen, and thought just like you "wat a load of shit". Repeat actors should be sent off.
 

Raw Power

1st Grade Fringe
Aug 30, 2016
1,147
Brisbane
I hope all the Perenara bashers out there have noticed now that he has retired from actual reffing, and he is in the bunker...
that he is the pinnacle of the video bunker revue guy... he is spot on, precise and quick with his analyse and decisions...
Far better than all the rest of the clowns, especially Cheat Chitty!
 
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Sup42

Warriors 1st Grader
May 7, 2012
23,417
I hope all the Perenara bashers out there have noticed now that he has retired from actual reffing, and he is in the bunker...
that he is the pinnacle of the video bunker revue guy... he is spot on, precise and quick with his analyse and decisions...
Far better than all the rest of the clowns, especially Cheat Chitty!
Henry was the worst Ref I have seen.

He is definitely the best Bunker analyst I have ever seen. Just shows you when some guys do not have time plressure to make on the spot decisions they thrive.
 

gREVUS

Long live the Rainbows and Butterflies
Contributor
May 8, 2012
8,755
watching the replay of the cowboys vs the roosters and at 16mins to go the most bullshit use of rules all weekend in my opinion

cowboys player flat on his feet, tedesco runs into him head down, and bounces off his chest. Tedesco goes down. whistle blows teddy stands up, total time 10secs or less.

Cowboys player sent off, and tedesco sent off for health check, tedesco goes to side line and then subbs straight back on to the field for the next play.

Cowboys now down a player, Roosters get a kick at goal to go 8 ahead, and teddy still on the field.

Fuck me dead
 

gpred

1st Grade Fringe
Contributor
Sep 23, 2016
1,008
Hate to see Papenhuyzen stretchered off.

But does anyone remember when Rugby Union decided anytime a ball was contested in the air someone had to get a red card?

It ruined the contest, and the game wasn't even worth watching. They (the powers above) realised this and adjusted because their bottom line was under threat.

I think Rugby League is in a similar period. As we all slowly switch off, some kind of balance will be restored. Afterall, they want to protect players heads, but they want to protect their profit margins even more.
 

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