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Countdown to disaster: Kiwis 2017 World Cup campaign
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11947796
This World Cup was supposed to be a golden new chapter for Kiwis league. With the tournament held on these shores for the first time, New Zealand had a chance to repeat the historic triumph of 2008, when Nathan Cayless lifted the trophy. Injury blows and some last minute defections from the team dampened some expectations, but no one could have foreseen their worst ever performance, as they missed out on the semi-finals due to a shock loss to Fiji in the quarter-finals. So what went wrong? Michael Burgess dissects the anatomy of a disaster that had its genesis more than 12 months earlier.

Here is how the Kiwis' 2017 Rugby League World Cup campaign collapsed before it had even begun ...

September 2016: Stephen Kearney's abrupt departure
The Warriors' awful end to the 2016 season saw coach Andrew McFadden sacked. Stephen Kearney was his replacement. He had been lined up by then chief executive Jim Doyle for months but the last minute decision caught most by surprise, especially the New Zealand Rugby League and left an unexpected vacancy for the Kiwis on the eve of the World Cup.

September 2016: David Kidwell appointed
Kidwell was appointed as Kiwis' coach four days after Kearney's resignation. Some questioned his lack of head coach experience, which amounted to one season with the Rabbitohs Under-20 side and a Junior Kiwis stint. But his experience as an assistant with the Storm and Tigers, as well as time under Kearney with the Kiwis (2014 and 2015) were emphasised as key factors in the decision to hire him.
Kidwell's first mistakes?
Kearney offered to come across to Perth to help with preparations for the end-of-season test, but Kidwell declined that support. Kidwell also choose to anoint Jesse Bromwich as his new captain. It was a look to the future, but seemed unnecessary given incumbent Simon Mannering's status in the game.

Kangaroos 26 Kiwis 6 (Perth)
The Kiwis struggled against the Kangaroos, looking underdone and rusty. Kidwell was also widely criticised by the Australian media for leaving Jason Taumalolo on the bench for long spells of the match. Taumalolo looked bemused about the matter when questioned later that week.

2016 Four Nations tour
Kidwell was denied the services of Mannering (injury) and Kieran Foran (unavailable) and recalled Jared Waerea-Hargreaves, who had been on the outer since the 2013 World Cup. The trip started well — with a 17-16 win over England — but that was followed by a close loss to Australia, before a shock 18-18 draw with Scotland.

Unhappy campers?
The touring party appeared to form several cliques, and it didn't seem to be a completely harmonious and united squad. Bromwich was still learning the reins as captain, and Justin Morgan — on reflection — was a bizarre choice as assistant coach, given he had been an unpopular figure during his time at Mt Smart under Andrew McFadden. Morgan's decision to do some work for the BBC as a panellist during the tournament also raised some eyebrows. Willie Poching was the other raw lieutenant beside Kidwell. It was noticeable that the Tongan contingent on the team — among them Solomone Kata, David Fusitua, Manu Ma'u and Jason Taumalolo became almost inseparable on the tour.

Discipline
Two members of the Kiwis team were disciplined for drinking until dawn after the loss in Perth. There was a further drama once the squad arrived in London, with two players on the team involved in a minor scuffle late one night. The coaching hierarchy strongly considered sending the pair home but decided against it.

Interchange issues
Kidwell's struggles with the interchange and tactics persisted for the whole tournament. The most bizarre episode occurred in the match against Scotland. Joseph Tapine had been lined up to replace Bromwich, but the skipper refused to come off with his team struggling against the Bravehearts. Kidwell insisted that the interchange was made, and it was eventually completed in the 39th minute. There was a similar Clayton's interchange in the final a week later.

Four Nations final
The Kiwis are smashed 34-8, in an embarrassingly one-sided Four Nations final. Kata and Fusitu'a, who had never played together on the left edge, are torn apart by the Australian attack while Tohu Harris Harris struggles in the unfamiliar No6 jersey.

Kidwell's reappointment
Kidwell's position is endorsed almost immediately by NZRL chief executive Alex Hayton, and he is retained after a review, which is never made public.

May 2017: Meltdown in Canberra
Kidwell and his team were criticised for their lack of media and public activity leading into the Anzac test, with Kangaroos coach Mal Meninga making the issue a talking point. The Kiwis insisted their camp and culture was great, but those claims seemed hollow after an inept performance in the 30-12 loss. The Kiwis fielded their strongest line-up in two years but couldn't get close to the Australians.

Cocaine scandal
Bromwich and Kevin Proctor's misdemeanours outside a Canberra nightclub was a deep cut. The coach acted swiftly — banning both players from the World Cup, which was an admirable and understandable stance. But Bromwich was almost irreplaceable as a prop and forward leader, and neither Russell Packer nor Sydney Roosters enforcer Waerea-Hargreaves offered much in his absence. And it meant that Kidwell — and the NZRL hierarchy — spent much of the next few months discussing the team's culture and how to fix it, including the prospect of an alcohol ban.

Lacking assistance
Kidwell had little luck with assistant coaches. Steve McNamara left New Zealand to become head coach at Catalan Dragons, while Garth Brennan was snapped up by the Gold Coast Titans days before the World Cup. An attempt to bring Stacey Jones into the fold was blocked by the Warriors, and the potential involvement of NRL premiership-winning Cowboys coach Paul Green never materialised.

Imperfect build-up
New head of selectors Tawera Nikau was outspoken in the buildup to the tournament, even questioning whether Mannering was going to be part of the squad. It seemed unprofessional conduct in a public forum. Kidwell also had to deal with the Warriors malaise, and injury doubts over Shaun Johnson and Foran. Behind the scenes Kidwell was evolving a new attacking strategy, which centred around Taumalolo, though he was yet to meet with the Cowboys lock.

September 2016: Tongan plotting begins
At the end of the Eels-Cowboys NRL semi-final match in Sydney, Taumalolo and Manu Ma'u are in deep discussion. Both had played for the Kiwis a few months earlier, but this is believed to be the moment when Taumalolo told Ma'u of his plans to represent Tonga at the World Cup. Similar discussions were going on privately between other players, while Kiwi winger Dallin Watene Zelezniak was even contacted by a member of the Tongan staff asking if he was interested in switching.

October 2016: The Tongan coup causes chaos
Kidwell's plans came crashing down in the days following the grand final. Tohu Harris Harris was ruled out through injury, followed by Taumalolo's shock u-turn. Ma'u and Fusitu'a then called Kidwell hours before the team was set to be named to confirm their change of heart, while Roosters forward Sio Siua Taukeiaho pulled out the night before. Bondi club teammate Waerea-Hargreaves was recalled from holiday in Fiji, but another potential player ruled himself out as he was already on holiday.

November 2016: Media struggles
Kidwell looked a man under intense pressure at the press conference before the first match against Scotland, with long pauses punctuated by sentences which didn't make too much sense. But the vibe in the Kiwis camp was positive, after a positive three-day stay at a marae in Hamilton.

Solid start
The Kiwis make a solid start to the World Cup, with wins over Samoa and Scotland. Their attack flows, but their discipline and error rate is a concern. Training regime changeAfter spending time with the All Blacks, Kidwell decides to re-engineer the Kiwis' training routine, with more emphasis put towards the back of the week. Eyebrows are raised though when the New Zealand team complete a double field session, video review and gym work on the Thursday before the loss to Tonga, barely 48 hours before the game. Across the NRL Thursday is typically a rest day, with Wednesday the heaviest load.

Hamilton hell, capital punishment
The dramas of the last 14 months culminate in a bitter eight-day spell, where the Kiwis crash to defeats against Tonga and Fiji in Hamilton and Wellington. A few years ago such a scenario would have been scarcely believable, especially on New Zealand soil, but the collective effect of the chaos and turmoil of the last year comes to a head. From Kidwell being thrown in at the deep end, to discipline problems from the first camp, debatable selection decisions, off field cliques, a cocaine scandal, an unprecedented series of defections, a risky change to the training schedule, untimely injuries and players who couldn't find their form on the big occasion contributed to the lowest point in Kiwis history.

The Key was Disharmony

 

[Brother Faisal]

Great article, didnt know alot of the issues but you start to piece together how much Kidwell and alex hayton are both idiots.

 

[bruce]

I want to add my 50 cents to the discussion that is happening around should the Kiwis have been more on Maori culture than actually focusing on league, and whether it should be incorportated into sports. I disagree for just my second time against Mt Wellington, that the Kiwis should know their culture.

I wasn't brought up around anything to do with Maori, but I wish I had been. Their culture is more family orientated than most Pakeha, and yet they get a bad wrap from a lot of people because they think that Maori is one of the worst in society to do with Child Abuse. Trust me, I work on the phones when it comes to raising money for charities, and one of those charities is to do with Child Abuse. I get told alot that we should be focusing more on the Maori because they are the highest rate of child abusers. That really gets my back up, as it's not just Maori but all nationalities, and it's always Maori that seem to be getting the bad press whether its deserved or not.

Like I said I'm not Maori, I'm a Kiwi Pakeha. I did wish that I learned Maori early but I didn't. It is said the further south that you go in New Zealand the more red neck it is, and trust me that's the truth. I was born and bred in the South Island. Lived in Greymouth for the first 9 and a half years of my life, and then in Alexandra for the last 8 and a half years of my child hood. There wasn't many Maori families around Central Otago back in the mid to late 80's and early 90's, so when a Maori family started at my school, it was like they were considered a phenomenon, but that quickly disapated as the those kids at our school quickly started being bullied.

Now I've never been one for confrontation, as I would usually just walk away from violence rather than confront it, or any types of bullying. but I wish I had been the one to stand up for the family as then they wouldn't have been forced to move away.

Like I said I wasn't brought up around anything to do with Maori culture, but all I knew of Maori was them performing in grass skirts.

When I left home at the age of 18, I thought I would have a year off before going to Polytech or University, I moved to Christchurch, stayed with my Aunty. I thought I better start applying for courses only to be told that I was too late in applying so they gave me a list of TOP courses to apply for.

I applied for one, which was a computer course which just so happened to be a part of a Maori run organization, which had 3 Maori classes of different stages. When I first applied and got accepted I got told that every wednesday afternoon all the classes in the organization took part in Kapahaka. A flash of performing in grass skirts entered my head, and I asked if I could be excused from that. It was compulsory but I was told I could help my Computer Teacher, who was also a Pakeha, who only went, as he always worked the OHP. I thought okay I'll do that.

But when I got to my first practice, my computer teacher said I could help out, but I said to him, I'll just stand in line and see how it goes. Well. I absolutley loved it. Not only did I enjoy it I started to prove myself, and then people who had seemed to be aloof in my first few days at the course, started talking to me.

Not only did I have to attend the Kapahaka Practices, every morning we had karakia which we had to attend as well as afternoon Karakia to end the day. Even though they were in Maori they were translated into english. This was considered to be the culture for the training organization. I loved it.

I was only suppose to stay there 6 months. The computer course was 6 months. But then I wanted to say and learn Maori, but because I was staying with my aunt, out of all the aunties she had to be the racist one. She told me no, and that I had to do something else. But Iong story short I rung my father, and he told her (his own sister) that if his boy wanted to learn Maori then so be it. He was allowed. So my aunty had no choice but to sign me in to doing the Maori courses.

I ended up being there 3 years, learning all things Maori. Learning the Maori culture, and living it. Not long after starting, I befriended a group of friends, who were staying together in a family home, and I was invited to come around for the weekend. Well long story short, I never left. I actually moved out of my aunty's.

To me Maori people are welcoming, and they have a strong sense of being a family and over the course of my adult life, I have been around a few Maori families. I sometimes prefer them to my own.

I also love history, and part of history was not only the world wars and everywhere else in the world, but Maori history. To learn that is a priveledge.

And so this is where I am getting to. I think it is very important for New Zealand teams, including the All Blacks, and the Kiwis to know Maori culture because the Maori culture binds people together more so than pakeha culture. That's what I feel anyway.

Let me talk about the All Blacks because I know of All Black history. Pre Graham Henry days, All Blacks were always made to feel that wearing the All Black jersey was all about the person who came before them, and the history of the All Blacks, but for some reason or another between the 1990's and 2000's, the All Blacks of the time, became over confident, and always thought they were above anyone else.

And that's one of the reasons why they constantly lost at World Cups. Because of the no respect thing.

So when Sir Graham Henry took over, he brought back the respect thing, and also made it about the culture of the All Blacks which included Maoridom as well as Pakeha.

To me staying on a Marae is something special and unique. For the Kiwis to do that, it showed to me, that they wanted to learn not only about being a New Zealander but as Maori who were very strong of being a whanau or family. I'm sure that's what David Kidwell was trying to install. That the Kiwi team was a family. That you stayed together as a family, and you play together as a family, and you have each others back.

That's what I found with all the families that I have stayed with over the course of my adult life, that they made you feel the sense of belonging, and that they had my back, when my own family don't necessarily have mine.

So it's just a shame that the Kiwi's World Cup campaign went pear shaped. I don't think that bringing in the culture thing was the cause of demise, the fact that they were out enthused by both Tonga, and Fiji, and didn't know how to handle it, was a big contribution.

So I'm sorry for the long winded story. But that's what I wanted to say.

I hear you brother.

I was raised a city slicker in the days when most Auckland Maori lived in South Auckland. I remember when our rugby team had to play Hato Peter or St Peters Maori College as it was then. Our coach gave us a special talk about Maori, because there were none at our school.

Later on I ended up moving to the country working with and living among Maori. For some reason they were happy to tell me stories about their culture and history which like you I found amazing. I have told many people that as an employer I preferred Maori because they were such good team workers. I have heard that from other Pakeha as well including one guy who was a blue blood graduate of Kings College in Auckland.

Maori have come off second best with the decline in the rural economy. They didn't need social welfare agencies because family took care of their own, and probably sorted things out on their own as well.

I don't think this Kiwi demise is a Maori thing. The muppet who is coach is the problem. I think Tawera Nikau might deserve a mention as well.

 

[Pozza]

Has there been any news re Super Coach Kidwell. I would have thought the review would have taken about 5 mins. Maybe they’re waiting for the end of the WC to release there findings

 

[Wellington Warrior]

Let’s hope this guy has no sway over selecting the coach!!

Shane Richardson backs David Kidwell but warns Kiwis over player development
MARVIN FRANCE

Last updated 14:43, November 25 2017

RAGHAVAN VENUGOPAL/PHOTOSPORT

Kiwis captain Adam Blair and coach David Kidwell face the media following the World Cup quarterfinal loss to Fiji.

Kiwis World Cup campaign manager Shane Richardson says the national team will continue to struggle unless New Zealand Rugby League invests more heavily in high performance and development pathways.

In a wide-ranging interview following the Kiwis' worst ever World Cup performance, Richardson also expressed support for coach David Kidwell after a build-up that went from one disaster to another.

General manager of football at South Sydney, Richardson was brought into to oversee the Kiwis' tournament operations but could not stop them from being dumped out of the quarterfinals by Fiji last week.

MATT KING/GETTY IMAGES

Kiwis World Cup campaign manager Shane Richardson believes David Kidwell should continue as Kiwis coach.

While his contract came to an end with their shock exit, the vastly experienced administrator will continue to assist with the NZRL's review of the forgettable campaign.

Despite a record of just three wins from 10 tests during Kidwell's tenure, one of Richardson's recommendations will be to persist with the former Kiwi as coach, who will have to re-apply for the role if indeed he wants to stay on.

"In my opinion David Kidwell's the guy," Richardson told Stuff.

"There were signs in that campaign of leadership and I know the players were really supportive of him. And when you consider some of the rubbish he had to go into it with, with players pulling out at the last moment, (assistant) coaches changing, the Jesse Bromwich incident, I think David did a lot to be able to put it together."

Richardson feels that where the NZRL have really been left behind is with their development and high performance systems.

Given they lost back-to-back tests to Tonga and Fiji, two heavily under-resourced tier-two nations, that may be hard to swallow for many frustrated Kiwi supporters.

But Richardson says Australia and England spent at least five times more on their respective campaigns than New Zealand.

Matching that is easier said than done for the NZRL, who struggle to generate revenue and exposure due a lack of tests in this country. Without a professional competition, they also rely heavily on NRL clubs to to develop players and coaches.

But unless improvement is made in this area, Richardson says the Kiwis will continue to be left behind.

"I know they're well aware of that. I've spent a lot of time talking to (Kiwis convenor of selectors) Tawera Nikau about it, but they need to do it sooner rather than later," Richardson said.

"No matter who the coach of the New Zealand side is they need to have better quality pathways and, more importantly, high performance background to what they're doing.

"The game's gone to another level. Australia and England have spent the money to go to another level, these other countries have proven it's gone to another level, NZ need to take it to another level as well.

"I think the NZRL understand but at the end of the day it's their decision about the coach and their decision about the structure."

Through his work with Cronulla, Penrith and Souths, Richardson has a history of rebuilding clubs.

He urged the NZRL not to look for a quick fix.

"NZRL have been on the downward spiral for a while and I think they've arrested it. You may not see it but I really believe there's opportunity, but you can't do it without putting all the things in place for the long term."

Richardson stood by the operational side of the Kiwis' campaign but admits he is ultimately judged by the results on the field.

He denied there was a feeling in the squad that the country was against them, a perception created by the lack of contrition in the post-match interviews against Fiji, including from skipper Adam Blair.

"I think people have misinterpreted exactly what it was, there was no one more emotional after the game than Adam Blair.

"What he was saying was that it was a terrible loss but hopefully those things we've put in place stay in place and you don't through the baby out with the bathwater."

Where Richardson was surprised was the the amount of support for the Pacific Island nations, which the NZRL need to capitalise on in terms of future tests.

Chief executive Alex Hayton has confirmed there will be at least one mid-year international held in New Zealand in 2018, which will be announced shortly.

"One of the reasons they had the challenges they've had with support or otherwise is because they've played so few test matches in New Zealand," Richardson said. "But there's a real opportunity to create a world of test matches in New Zealand with Tonga and Samoa that probably wasn't there five years ago."

- Stuff

 

[Pozza]

What a Dick hope his tenure was only for the duration of the WC

 

[bruce]

What a Dick hope his tenure was only for the duration of the WC

He is usually a very smart guy. I just cannot understand his comments at all.

Has there been any news re Super Coach Kidwell. I would have thought the review would have taken about 5 mins. Maybe they’re waiting for the end of the WC to release there findings

They will all be covering their arses. I sort of feel for the NZRL though. No money, they probably have enough problem paying the wages of the office staff let alone thinking about growing the game. Hayton came from NZ Football, itself an outfit that has trouble finding decent staff and was originally CFO at the league. That would be an interesting job considering their budget. So when they found themselves needing a new CEO he was probably the cheapest option. In those circumstances how can anybody criticise him. You pay peanuts you get monkeys.

 

[Pozza]

If you delve a bit deeper into Mr Richardson you’ll find he was the head of the NRL’s Strategic game committee.
Payed a shitload of money to come up with nothing. The heavy hitters in club land were not impressed.
Since then his reputation has been somewhat diminished. No wonder we welcomed him with open arms.
Not everything that comes out of Oz is good. One other point other than There GF win Souths have been in steady decline since.

 

[Raw Power]

He is usually a very smart guy. I just cannot understand his comments at all.

They will all be covering their arses. I sort of feel for the NZRL though. No money, they probably have enough problem paying the wages of the office staff let alone thinking about growing the game. Hayton came from NZ Football, itself an outfit that has trouble finding decent staff and was originally CFO at the league. That would be an interesting job considering their budget. So when they found themselves needing a new CEO he was probably the cheapest option. In those circumstances how can anybody criticise him. You pay peanuts you get monkeys.

After playing in League in Auckland as a kid to a young adult (and forced to play Union)... then returning years later to coach juniors in Auckland...

Rugby Union has the monopoly in NZ, and this is why we rely on Aussie born/developed Kiwi heritage players, and now we see the same with Tonga and Samoa. The winners are the NZRU and the Australian Rugby League, who will rarely lose a player of any heritage once they get there hands on them.

The one exception being Andrew Fafita, but Mel Meninga secretly must have been doing handstands after getting news of Andrews defection.

 

[Pozza]

After playing in Auckland as a kid to a young adult (and forced to play Union)... then returning years later to coach juniors in Auckland...

Rugby Union has the monopoly in NZ, and this is why we rely on Aussie born/developed Kiwi heritage players, and now we see the same with Tonga and Samoa. The winners are the NZRU and the Australian Rugby League, who will rarely lose a player of any heritage once they get there hands on them.

The one exception being Andrew Fafita, but Mel Meninga secretly must have been doing handstands after getting news of Andrews defection.

Include the new NSW coach as well !

 

[Beastmode]

Sorry is this the maori national team because the last time i checked it was the NEW ZEALAND national team. And New Zealand from what i know is a mix of many different cultures of which maori is only one of them.

Theres more asians, polynesians, indians than maori. Its a European country by ethnicity so why dont we start singing good defend the queen if we’re going to get all cultural here.

Sleep in a maraei preparing for a world cup game? ever hear of anyone having a fantastic night sleep in a maraei??? No wonder we lost to fiji and tonga.

David Kidwell is a total tool of epic proportions.

He makes Steve Kearney come across as a fucking genius.

Rant over.

 

[mt.wellington]

Anyone hear about Shaun Johnson and Russell Packer having a fight? Probably a heated verbal one as Rusty would kill Shaun Johnson with a flick to the ear...

 

[bruce]

Sleep in a maraei preparing for a world cup game? ever hear of anyone having a fantastic night sleep in a maraei??? No wonder we lost to fiji and tonga.

Sleeping on a marae would suit me just fine. I don't think that was the problem though. This team hasn't gelled since Kearney left and somebody should have been on to it a lot earlier.

 

[Beastmode]

Sleeping on a marae would suit me just fine. I don't think that was the problem though. This team hasn't gelled since Kearney left and somebody should have been on to it a lot earlier.

Look at the Tongans.

Heritage + pride = effort

That formula is infectious. And it worked.

Now look at us.

How many of our players can relate to maori culture?

Maori heritage = no pride = no effort = no wins

Theres a time and place for everything. Shoving maori culture down their throats leading into and during a WC is just plain stupid.

Rant over

 

[Off The Bench]

There is a Maori team
This is the Kiwi team

At the end of the day it didn't work. No use arguing it didn't work
Also have to wander why our best an most experienced winger is sitting
In the stands .?
Iv got nothing but love for all my brothers an sisters
But iv also got pride in my own to .Not being in camp I can't say if anybody was marginalised
But it is a slippery slope once we start to promote one culture over the others ..an can lead
To disharmony .
The other thing was what was Kidwell preaching to the boys ,For us to get comments like we
Did out of Shaun Johnson an Blair it was almost like he had tried to get an us against the world mentality going
Judging on what was being said after we lost..you guys got what you wanted . ..Who ever tries
To run on negative energy will realize it is not sustainable.An I do wonder if Kidwell tried to use it to
Unite the team.If he did he should leave cause he knows nothing .

 

[Brother Faisal]

What are the actual match payments for these guys? Do it like the Tongan team. You get your 30 dollars a day allowance and you get the privilege of representing nz. Now whoever is committed to that pick him and let’s start saving some money.

 

[Beastmode]

There is a Maori team
This is the Kiwi team

At the end of the day it didn't work. No use arguing it didn't work
Also have to wander why our best an most experienced winger is sitting
In the stands .?
Iv got nothing but love for all my brothers an sisters
But iv also got pride in my own to .Not being in camp I can't say if anybody was marginalised
But it is a slippery slope once we start to promote one culture over the others ..an can lead
To disharmony .
The other thing was what was Kidwell preaching to the boys ,For us to get comments like we
Did out of Shaun Johnson an Blair it was almost like he had tried to get an us against the world mentality going
Judging on what was being said after we lost..you guys got what you wanted . ..Who ever tries
To run on negative energy will realize it is not sustainable.An I do wonder if Kidwell tried to use it to
Unite the team.If he did he should leave cause he knows nothing .

What ticks me off is not that it didnt work but the fact that any person with an ounce of common sense could tell you it wasnt going to work.

I half wonder if its some political stunt because i refuse to believe people in such high positions can be that stupid.

They should have propaganda about kiwi pride. Everything that makes NZ great as a national. Embrace the positive. Not some stupid seige mentality.

 

[Lord_m_80]

Anyone hear about Shaun Johnson and Russell Packer having a fight? Probably a heated verbal one as Rusty would kill Shaun Johnson with a flick to the ear...

From the fella who constantly says he won't spread any rumours

Guess that doesn't count when it comes to the kiwis eh bro...

 

[Pozza]

What ticks me off is not that it didnt work but the fact that any person with an ounce of common sense could tell you it wasnt going to work.

I half wonder if its some political stunt because i refuse to believe people in such high positions can be that stupid.

They should have propaganda about kiwi pride. Everything that makes NZ great as a national. Embrace the positive. Not some stupid seige mentality.

When you go down the seige mentality path you need a couple of things to happen.
1. The coach needs to inspire you.. what a joke,
2. You need to back it up with determination and a bit of talent wouldn’t hurt either.

I’m sure these were all deliberate distractions to cover up his lack of ability. In other words NFI

 

[Off The Bench]

What ticks me off is not that it didnt work but the fact that any person with an ounce of common sense could tell you it wasnt going to work.

I half wonder if its some political stunt because i refuse to believe people in such high positions can be that stupid.

They should have propaganda about kiwi pride. Everything that makes NZ great as a national. Embrace the positive. Not some stupid seige mentality.

Yes it is political in the 1950s a guy by the name of Marcuse I'm not sure if I spelt it right
Wrote some thesis on how to bring down the western civilization .(he was a hard core Communist)
In it he describes how if you totally ignore the positives of one culture an promote the virtue of
All other cultures ,While placing blame on that culture whether deserved or not u will get a large group of disenfranchised youth with which to work with.Being that he was a professor in the states he an his students
Have pushed this since the sixties.To the point where today.Students are getting kicked out
Of uni for being conservative.This is why we can't even have a European students support
Group in NZ with out being called Nazis or supremists .an getting death threats.Maori .
Pacific islanders ,Asians,Indians,Muslims are all allowed support groups we are not
Yes this is political Socialism .Look up Saul Alinski who is who Clinton .Obama.Merkle .labour etc follow