Internationals Kiwis four nations

Danpatmac

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We had a 23 man squad in the 2011 tournament so may be similar size…

My top 17 would be:
  1. Hoffman
  2. Tuivasa-Scheck
  3. Whare
  4. Hurrell
  5. Nightingale
  6. Foran
  7. Johnson
  8. Bromwich
  9. Luke
  10. Moa
  11. Taumalolo
  12. Matulino
  13. Mannering
  14. Leuluai
  15. Tapau
  16. Eastwood
  17. Proctor
Rest of the squad:
  1. Harris
  2. Glenn
  3. Vatuvei
  4. Beale
  5. Warea-Hargreaves
  6. McKendry
 
1. Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
2. Josh Hoffman
3. Konrad Hurrell - on the assumption that Matai opts out
4. Dean Whare
5. Manu Vatuvei
6. Kieran Foran
7. Shaun Johnson
8. Sam Moa
9. Isaac Luke
10. Jesse Bromwich
11. Kevin Proctor
12. Ben Matulino
13. Simon Mannering

14. Jared Waerea-Hargreaves
15. Jason Taumalolo
16. Martin Tapau
17. Alex Glenn
 
Hurrell is no more a kiwi than James Tamou is an Australian.
We would be no better than them if we select him. I can only assume that the people selecting him never had any issue with kiwis playing origin.
 
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Danpatmac

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Hurrell is no more a kiwi than James Tamou is an Australian.
We would be no better than them if we select him. I can only assume that the people selecting him never had any issue with kiwis playing origin.

I selected him because he has made himself available and is highly likely to be picked in the squad no matter what we think.
 

mt.wellington

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1. ROGER TUIVASA-SHECK - Rightful position and where we need him to start playing for the next World Cup
2. JASON NIGHTINGALE - One of the most solid defenders in the comp and a great finisher. Will hopefully help Konnie in defence as well as finish any opportunities he gets.
3. KONRAD HURRELL - Already stated his intentions and will definitely be in the squad.
4. DEAN WHARE - Easy choice for obvious reasons.
5. MANU VATUVEI - Has had a great season and will feature for sure.
6. KIERAN FORAN - Easy choice for obvious reasons.
7. SHAUN JOHNSON - Easy choice for obvious reasons.
8. JESSE BROMWICH - Arguably the most consistent prop in the comp across the whole season. He's a walk in.
9. ISAAC LUKE - Easy choice for obvious reasons.
10. JARED WAEREA-HARGREAVES - Showed on Sunday what he's capable of and would be keen to rip into it after being dropped for the last test.
11. SIMON MANNERING - Edge defence mainly but has shown an ability to score this year.
12. ALEX GLENN - Again for his edge defence but he's no chump at scoring and ball playing either.
13. FRANK-PAUL NUUAUSALA - Prefer a third prop type lock. No need for a specialist tacklebot. Everyone can do their own bloody tackling!

14. SAM MOA - Ultimate impact off the bench.
15. BEN MATULINO - Prefer to see him playing as a prop. No reason why he cant ball play though. Bromwich will.
16. JASON TAUMALOLO - Not too sure on this selection as he hasnt been in the finest form all season but if he does fire theres none better. Has been playing well lately.
17. MARTIN TAUPAU - Kapow should have been a bolter for the last test. Big fan of his aggressive style.

Some may baulk at my playing defensive second rowers but when you have the likes of Hayne, Morris twins, Inglis, Jennings and Boyd on the opposite edges all being fed by Cronk and Thurston while being locked together by Slater you really need to concede that the edge defence will be crucial. Dont forget where they got us in the RLWC13 Grand Final.

Rest of the squad:

Sam Perrett
Peter Hiku
Thomas Leuluai
Sam McKendry
Shaun Kenny-Dowall
Greg Eastwood

Always others options like:

Kevin Locke
Dallin Watene Zelezniak
Bryson Goodwin
Lewis Brown
Sam Kasiano
Justin Horo
Kevin Proctor
Tohu Harris
 

Danpatmac

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1. ROGER TUIVASA-SHECK - Rightful position and where we need him to start playing for the next World Cup
2. JASON NIGHTINGALE - One of the most solid defenders in the comp and a great finisher. Will hopefully help Konnie in defence as well as finish any opportunities he gets.
3. KONRAD HURRELL - Already stated his intentions and will definitely be in the squad.
4. DEAN WHARE - Easy choice for obvious reasons.
5. MANU VATUVEI - Has had a great season and will feature for sure.
6. KIERAN FORAN - Easy choice for obvious reasons.
7. SHAUN JOHNSON - Easy choice for obvious reasons.
8. JESSE BROMWICH - Arguably the most consistent prop in the comp across the whole season. He's a walk in.
9. ISAAC LUKE - Easy choice for obvious reasons.
10. JARED WAEREA-HARGREAVES - Showed on Sunday what he's capable of and would be keen to rip into it after being dropped for the last test.
11. SIMON MANNERING - Edge defence mainly but has shown an ability to score this year.
12. ALEX GLENN - Again for his edge defence but he's no chump at scoring and ball playing either.
13. FRANK-PAUL NUUAUSALA - Prefer a third prop type lock. No need for a specialist tacklebot. Everyone can do their own bloody tackling!

14. SAM MOA - Ultimate impact off the bench.
15. BEN MATULINO - Prefer to see him playing as a prop. No reason why he cant ball play though. Bromwich will.
16. JASON TAUMALOLO - Not too sure on this selection as he hasnt been in the finest form all season but if he does fire theres none better. Has been playing well lately.
17. MARTIN TAUPAU - Kapow should have been a bolter for the last test. Big fan of his aggressive style.

Some may baulk at my playing defensive second rowers but when you have the likes of Hayne, Morris twins, Inglis, Jennings and Boyd on the opposite edges all being fed by Cronk and Thurston while being locked together by Slater you really need to concede that the edge defence will be crucial. Dont forget where they got us in the RLWC13 Grand Final.

Rest of the squad:

Sam Perrett
Peter Hiku
Thomas Leuluai
Sam McKendry
Shaun Kenny-Dowall
Greg Eastwood

Always others options like:

Kevin Locke
Dallin Watene Zelezniak
Bryson Goodwin
Lewis Brown
Sam Kasiano
Justin Horo
Kevin Proctor
Tohu Harris

lots to like there…

another name that I think deserves a look but might not figure is Bodene Thompson. Having him in my nnrl team has made me keep an eye on him and I really think he has played well in a couple of positions.
 
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mt.wellington

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Has Stephen Kearney made overtures to forgive FPN rubbishing him ?
He better get on his knees! Seriously. They dont call him Tank for nothing. Well, maybe because it rhymes with Frank but you know what I mean :D.

He stuffed up when he talked shit about Steve Matai. That bit him in the arse last year when Matai had a great season and we were short of centres. There was a very valuable lesson to be learnt there.

Hopefully his new Assistant Coach Kidwell talks some sense into him...
 
1. ROGER TUIVASA-SHECK - Rightful position and where we need him to start playing for the next World Cup
2. JASON NIGHTINGALE - One of the most solid defenders in the comp and a great finisher. Will hopefully help Konnie in defence as well as finish any opportunities he gets.
3. KONRAD HURRELL - Already stated his intentions and will definitely be in the squad.
4. DEAN WHARE - Easy choice for obvious reasons.
5. MANU VATUVEI - Has had a great season and will feature for sure.
6. KIERAN FORAN - Easy choice for obvious reasons.
7. SHAUN JOHNSON - Easy choice for obvious reasons.
8. JESSE BROMWICH - Arguably the most consistent prop in the comp across the whole season. He's a walk in.
9. ISAAC LUKE - Easy choice for obvious reasons.
10. JARED WAEREA-HARGREAVES - Showed on Sunday what he's capable of and would be keen to rip into it after being dropped for the last test.
11. SIMON MANNERING - Edge defence mainly but has shown an ability to score this year.
12. ALEX GLENN - Again for his edge defence but he's no chump at scoring and ball playing either.
13. FRANK-PAUL NUUAUSALA - Prefer a third prop type lock. No need for a specialist tacklebot. Everyone can do their own bloody tackling!

14. SAM MOA - Ultimate impact off the bench.
15. BEN MATULINO - Prefer to see him playing as a prop. No reason why he cant ball play though. Bromwich will.
16. JASON TAUMALOLO - Not too sure on this selection as he hasnt been in the finest form all season but if he does fire theres none better. Has been playing well lately.
17. MARTIN TAUPAU - Kapow should have been a bolter for the last test. Big fan of his aggressive style.

Some may baulk at my playing defensive second rowers but when you have the likes of Hayne, Morris twins, Inglis, Jennings and Boyd on the opposite edges all being fed by Cronk and Thurston while being locked together by Slater you really need to concede that the edge defence will be crucial. Dont forget where they got us in the RLWC13 Grand Final.

Rest of the squad:

Sam Perrett
Peter Hiku
Thomas Leuluai
Sam McKendry
Shaun Kenny-Dowall
Greg Eastwood

Always others options like:

Kevin Locke
Dallin Watene Zelezniak
Bryson Goodwin
Lewis Brown
Sam Kasiano
Justin Horo
Kevin Proctor
Tohu Harris

I'm surprised you have Proctor so far down the list, he's been one of the form back rowers this year.
 
He better get on his knees! Seriously. They dont call him Tank for nothing. Well, maybe because it rhymes with Frank but you know what I mean :D.

He stuffed up when he talked shit about Steve Matai. That bit him in the arse last year when Matai had a great season and we were short of centres. There was a very valuable lesson to be learnt there.

Hopefully his new Assistant Coach Kidwell talks some sense into him...

Gary Kemble was a terrible coach. Roy was right. He broke the code, he never played again irrespective of his form.Other coaches after Kemble made an example of him.

Kearney sucked up to SBW already and got burned ( to be fair to Kearney that decision was driven by politics, he would have been made aware that WC organisers wanted Williams ).

He won't bend in future. Matai was left out because he didn't want to play ( that's from the horses mouth ).

Frank Paul would cost Kearney a loss of face with the rest of his squad.

No other New Zealand national sports team in the major codes would pick a player that shot down the coach.
 
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I selected him because he has made himself available and is highly likely to be picked in the squad no matter what we think.
Yeah I understand but still hold out hope that some day international league will cease to be such a joke and that just maybe the kiwis could take a small step towards that by not selecting Hurrell no mater how good he is.
 
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