Internationals Kiwi v England 2018 Denver, USA

A joke maybe, but I'm not sure how the NZRL could have foreseen multiple plane delays?
They could have done more I suppose and investigated United's maintenance schedule.
There is a direct flight on Air NZ via San Fran. But the Warrior kiwis flew back via Sydney.
Could of been handled better...
 
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Warriors seeking answers from New Zealand Rugby League after Denver test
1 Jul, 2018 3:00pm
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Warriors coach Stephen Kearney was forced to ask Issac Luke and Peta Hiku to back-up from the Denver test against Cronulla.Photo / Photosport.

The Warriors are seeking a 'please explain' from New Zealand Rugby League after a lack of communication from the Kiwis camp in the wake of last week's Denver test.

The Warriors remain frustrated they received no direct feedback or updates from Kiwis coach Michael Maguire or the team's high performance staff about how their three test players – Issac Luke, Peta Hiku or Ken Maumalo – pulled up after last Sunday's defeat to England at Mile High Stadium.

After all of the talk about extensive planning around player welfare in the lead-up to the controversial mid-season fixture, the club are unhappy they didn't receive at least a courtesy call to inform them of the trio's health status after the match.

Warriors coach Stephen Kearney was less than impressed after he was forced to ask both Luke and Hiku to back-up and play in Friday's 18-15 NRL defeat to Cronulla, while he felt Maumalo needed to rest after making his Kiwis debut.

Kiwis team manager Nadene Conlon was prompt in notifying Warriors football operations manager Dan Floyd about the flight problems that delayed the players return to Auckland until Wednesday morning, but the club feel they were left hanging over the condition of their players.


The situation only added to the club's frustrations after the Kiwis opted to stay the night in Denver after the game, while arrangements were made for England's players to depart the US in the hours following the match.

England playmaker Gareth Widdop and St George Illawarra teammate James Graham were back in Sydney on Monday morning, but Dragons teammate and Kiwis debutant Leeson Ah Mau returned 48 hours later.

Along with Maumalo, both Ah Mau and Kiwis and Roosters front-rower Jared Waerea-Hargreaves were also held back from playing for their club sides after their late return to Australia, while Widdop and Graham were able to help the Dragons edge Parramatta 20-18 on Thursday night.

"I was pretty worried," said Maumalo. "The cancellations and delays were pretty terrible and I just wanted to come home and get back to training."

Maguire explained the Kiwis medical team believed they were doing the right thing by giving the players a chance to sleep and go through their recovery protocols before travelling home. However, the Warriors are upset they weren't given the option to expedite their players return, with the travel delays only compounding matters.

"The high performance guys and Greg Macleod the doctor felt that it was in the best interests of the players to get up and do recovery the following day and have medical assessments," said Maguire.

"They did all their medical screenings and recovery and set a really good protocol for obviously the return home with sleep, hydration and all of those sorts of things but unfortunately due to the circumstances that changed.

"But even though we ended up going to a hotel that night they were still doing recovery. They swam and did a bit of exercise there and things were still happening in the back ground to make sure the players were in the best of care."

Furthermore, Kiwi players were unimpressed by the quality and comfort of United Airlines and the Warriors trio were unhappy with their original travel itinerary booked by Denver test promoters Moore Sports, that saw them scheduled to make stopovers in San Francisco and Sydney, before catching a third flight to Auckland.

The flight changes eventually saw them leave Denver for Los Angeles, where they were relieved to be able to catch a more comfortable business class flight with Air New Zealand direct to Auckland.

The Warriors are expecting to catch up with NZRL chief executive Greg Peters this week and will voice their concerns, while it remains unlikely the club will be willing to support the fixture again next year.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/article.cfm?c_id=79&objectid=12081243
 
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Interesting to read the promoter of this match has failed to pay the players and the match fees to the governing bodies.
 
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Interesting to read the promoter of this match has failed to pay the players and the match fees to the governing bodies.
The players have now been payed but the majority of the match fee hasn't, apparently the delay was due to due diligence dealing with IRS.
The promoter has incurred a loss from the first event, to be expected with the hope of balancing the books in years 2 & 3 once the product garnered more local (US) attention.
Honestly, people think growing the game is as simple as playing Tonga in Auckland and the Warriors should be top 4 and go on to win the GF this season. Those same people probably vote Labour and wonder why the Olympics accept E-sports over RL..
 
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The players have now been payed but the majority of the match fee hasn't, apparently the delay was due to due diligence dealing with IRS.
The promoter has incurred a loss from the first event, to be expected with the hope of balancing the books in years 2 & 3 once the product garnered more local (US) attention.
Honestly, people think growing the game is as simple as playing Tonga in Auckland and the Warriors should be top 4 and go on to win the GF this season. Those same people probably vote Labour and wonder why the Olympics accept E-sports over RL..
Reports say the NZRL stumped up the players match payment to get that sorted (and yes article says that portion was held up the IRS).

If in fact it was the promoters business model to expect a loss first year but grow over 3 years - you would definitely expect to have them meet agreed / contracted payment terms in the first year of the deal or alarm bells would ring.

I wonder if the lady who sung the anthem got paid.
 
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I wonder if the lady who sung the anthem got paid.

And if the lady who warbled the anthem got paid. That could be two chicks out of pocket.

Sounds like these "promoters" aren't interested in anything other than promoting their own bank balances. A sign of that being that we never got to see the lady who sung the anthem.
 
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Gee, it's almost like all of the people on here saying this was a stupid idea that would turn out to be a total fiasco were correct. But yes, FoR tHa GrOwTh Of ThE gAmE +++ pRiDe Of Da JeRsEeEe
 
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It's odd that we don't hear any discontent from out of the Old Dart, did they receive payment in full? Or is it that the NRL have a greater reach here in the South Pacific?
 
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the old dart, is that a term that you just found out, ive never heard it before, guessed what it was, but had to look it up
 

gREVUS

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i may have heard it before. But not that i would remember. However shithouse i know, mostly cause im in the shit with someone.
 
Denver Test is dead after promoter misses payment deadline
Adrian Proszenko1 September 2018 — 5:22pm
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The Denver Test is officially dead after the promoter failed to meet a final deadline to fulfil his financial commitments.

There are also fresh fears about the 2025 Rugby League World Cup going ahead after promoter Moore Sports International, the firm behind the Colorado concept, left the New Zealand Rugby League and the Rugby Football League (the governing body for professional rugby league in England) out of pocket.

It is understood each organisation is owed a six-figure sum, although the amount is less than the $500,000 previously suggested.

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Rocky mountain high: The Kiwis perform the haka during the Denver Test.

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Moore Sports International was given a revised timeline, August 31 (American time), to pay the money. However, NZRL chief executive Greg Peters confirmed the firm had not done so.

“We haven’t received anything to date,” Peters said. “The number is commercially sensitive, but it’s a significant hold for us. We have a contractual agreement that currently hasn’t been fulfilled.

“We have all the normal legal recourse you would have for a contract with someone who owes you money. We will be considering our options in the near future.”

The Denver Test between England and New Zealand, part of a three-year agreement for the fixture, was meant to be the first of a series of forays into the American market ahead of the 2025 World Cup.

Moore Sports International boss Jason Moore is also the promoter for that event, one that now appears to be in serious jeopardy following the non-payments and the collapse of his mooted snowboarding competition Air + Style.

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No more: New Zealand's Martin Taupau tackles England's James Roby during the one, and it now seems, only Denver Test.

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The Denver Test, Peters said, will almost certainly be a one-off.

“It’s in serious jeopardy and unlikely to proceed,” Peters said. “Leaving aside the non-payment, the strategy was to take rugby league to a new market where it hadn’t been seen before. My personal view is that almost 20,000 [fans] in a brand new market where rugby league had never been played before is a pretty good result.

“The game itself, notwithstanding the fact the Kiwis lost, which is not what we set out to do, but the actual spectacle from a fan’s points of view showcased everything that is good about rugby league.

“All of those boxes are ticked. The unfortunate part is the NZRL and the RFL were a testing ground for a promoter who hasn’t been forthcoming with payments that were due.”

The players have been paid, but the outstanding funds have put further financial pressure on the cash-strapped NZRL. Kiwis players will be paid just $5000 for their season-ending Test against the Australians, who will pocket $20,000.

“We have some pretty big financial challenges ahead of us so we can’t afford to pay at the previous level,” Peters said.

“At the end of the day we’re trying to ensure we continue to have international football. We’re working towards a longer term model that will hopefully increase their payment over time. At the moment that’s all we’re able to pay and they’ve agreed to that.”

The Denver issues could prompt the NRL to reconsider the risk of staging an opening round game for 2019, dubbed "round zero", in America.

The Kiwis will play the Kangaroos on October 13, just a week before the proposed Australia-Tonga Test. NZRL officials were concerned the latter fixture could detract from the Kiwis game, but will likely be placated with the guarantee of more top flight Tests on home soil.

“We are close to coming out with a resolution,” Peters said.

“Our main objective is to give prominence to NZ versus Australia being played in Auckland. It’s the first time in six years, since 2012, that a trans-Tasman Test match is played in Auckland. We did play in 2014 in Wellington.

“That’s a pretty special occasion for us, the trans-Tasman rivalry is as big in rugby league as it is in anything else.

“We’re as excited about that as our players are and that’s what we want to give prominence to and continue to work on that.

“We have got a very good group of players who are excited about that Test match and the tour at the end of the year.

“They want to restore the public’s faith after the World Cup, which was obviously disappointing. Every player you ask will want to play for his county, first and foremost.”
 
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That test should never have been played...end of story. This NZRL is a desperate band of incompetents.
 
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Wow, who would of guessed a game of Rugby League between New Zealand & England, played at the same time as a Colorado Rockies Major League Baseball game in Denver would be a financial disaster....
 
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