Internationals Kiwi v England 2018 Denver, USA

brightman

brightman

Interesting to read the promoter of this match has failed to pay the players and the match fees to the governing bodies.
The players have now been payed but the majority of the match fee hasn't, apparently the delay was due to due diligence dealing with IRS.
The promoter has incurred a loss from the first event, to be expected with the hope of balancing the books in years 2 & 3 once the product garnered more local (US) attention.
Honestly, people think growing the game is as simple as playing Tonga in Auckland and the Warriors should be top 4 and go on to win the GF this season. Those same people probably vote Labour and wonder why the Olympics accept E-sports over RL..
 
razzrillinger

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Juju

Juju

The players have now been payed but the majority of the match fee hasn't, apparently the delay was due to due diligence dealing with IRS.
The promoter has incurred a loss from the first event, to be expected with the hope of balancing the books in years 2 & 3 once the product garnered more local (US) attention.
Honestly, people think growing the game is as simple as playing Tonga in Auckland and the Warriors should be top 4 and go on to win the GF this season. Those same people probably vote Labour and wonder why the Olympics accept E-sports over RL..
Reports say the NZRL stumped up the players match payment to get that sorted (and yes article says that portion was held up the IRS).

If in fact it was the promoters business model to expect a loss first year but grow over 3 years - you would definitely expect to have them meet agreed / contracted payment terms in the first year of the deal or alarm bells would ring.

I wonder if the lady who sung the anthem got paid.
 
mrblonde

mrblonde

I wonder if the lady who sung the anthem got paid.

And if the lady who warbled the anthem got paid. That could be two chicks out of pocket.

Sounds like these "promoters" aren't interested in anything other than promoting their own bank balances. A sign of that being that we never got to see the lady who sung the anthem.
 
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Fazz

Fazz

Gee, it's almost like all of the people on here saying this was a stupid idea that would turn out to be a total fiasco were correct. But yes, FoR tHa GrOwTh Of ThE gAmE +++ pRiDe Of Da JeRsEeEe
 
Wellington Warrior

Wellington Warrior

Promoters don’t want to pay up.... nobody in their right mind will be going back there!!
 
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mt.wellington

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I didn't realise that NZ players only got $5,000 per test.
I know the quote is from NRL.com but is that figure actually correct? Seems like a paltry amount. ANZAC Tests were worth much more. Why is this Test so much cheaper for players???
 
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Brother Faisal

Brother Faisal

I know the quote is from NRL.com but is that figure actually correct? Seems like a paltry amount. ANZAC Tests were worth much more. Why is this Test so much cheaper for players???
2nd tier brand, 2nd tier team, 2nd tier match payment
 
Wellington Warrior

Wellington Warrior

I know the quote is from NRL.com but is that figure actually correct? Seems like a paltry amount. ANZAC Tests were worth much more. Why is this Test so much cheaper for players???
Maybe it’s due to the NZRL having to pay them now... previously it was the NRL footing the bill?
 
brightman

brightman

It's odd that we don't hear any discontent from out of the Old Dart, did they receive payment in full? Or is it that the NRL have a greater reach here in the South Pacific?
 
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gREVUS

gREVUS

Long live the Rainbows and Butterflies
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the old dart, is that a term that you just found out, ive never heard it before, guessed what it was, but had to look it up
 
gREVUS

gREVUS

Long live the Rainbows and Butterflies
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i may have heard it before. But not that i would remember. However shithouse i know, mostly cause im in the shit with someone.
 
Ozwarrior

Ozwarrior

Denver Test is dead after promoter misses payment deadline
Adrian Proszenko1 September 2018 — 5:22pm
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The Denver Test is officially dead after the promoter failed to meet a final deadline to fulfil his financial commitments.

There are also fresh fears about the 2025 Rugby League World Cup going ahead after promoter Moore Sports International, the firm behind the Colorado concept, left the New Zealand Rugby League and the Rugby Football League (the governing body for professional rugby league in England) out of pocket.

It is understood each organisation is owed a six-figure sum, although the amount is less than the $500,000 previously suggested.

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Rocky mountain high: The Kiwis perform the haka during the Denver Test.

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Moore Sports International was given a revised timeline, August 31 (American time), to pay the money. However, NZRL chief executive Greg Peters confirmed the firm had not done so.

“We haven’t received anything to date,” Peters said. “The number is commercially sensitive, but it’s a significant hold for us. We have a contractual agreement that currently hasn’t been fulfilled.

“We have all the normal legal recourse you would have for a contract with someone who owes you money. We will be considering our options in the near future.”

The Denver Test between England and New Zealand, part of a three-year agreement for the fixture, was meant to be the first of a series of forays into the American market ahead of the 2025 World Cup.

Moore Sports International boss Jason Moore is also the promoter for that event, one that now appears to be in serious jeopardy following the non-payments and the collapse of his mooted snowboarding competition Air + Style.

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No more: New Zealand's Martin Taupau tackles England's James Roby during the one, and it now seems, only Denver Test.

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The Denver Test, Peters said, will almost certainly be a one-off.

“It’s in serious jeopardy and unlikely to proceed,” Peters said. “Leaving aside the non-payment, the strategy was to take rugby league to a new market where it hadn’t been seen before. My personal view is that almost 20,000 [fans] in a brand new market where rugby league had never been played before is a pretty good result.

“The game itself, notwithstanding the fact the Kiwis lost, which is not what we set out to do, but the actual spectacle from a fan’s points of view showcased everything that is good about rugby league.

“All of those boxes are ticked. The unfortunate part is the NZRL and the RFL were a testing ground for a promoter who hasn’t been forthcoming with payments that were due.”

The players have been paid, but the outstanding funds have put further financial pressure on the cash-strapped NZRL. Kiwis players will be paid just $5000 for their season-ending Test against the Australians, who will pocket $20,000.

“We have some pretty big financial challenges ahead of us so we can’t afford to pay at the previous level,” Peters said.

“At the end of the day we’re trying to ensure we continue to have international football. We’re working towards a longer term model that will hopefully increase their payment over time. At the moment that’s all we’re able to pay and they’ve agreed to that.”

The Denver issues could prompt the NRL to reconsider the risk of staging an opening round game for 2019, dubbed "round zero", in America.

The Kiwis will play the Kangaroos on October 13, just a week before the proposed Australia-Tonga Test. NZRL officials were concerned the latter fixture could detract from the Kiwis game, but will likely be placated with the guarantee of more top flight Tests on home soil.

“We are close to coming out with a resolution,” Peters said.

“Our main objective is to give prominence to NZ versus Australia being played in Auckland. It’s the first time in six years, since 2012, that a trans-Tasman Test match is played in Auckland. We did play in 2014 in Wellington.

“That’s a pretty special occasion for us, the trans-Tasman rivalry is as big in rugby league as it is in anything else.

“We’re as excited about that as our players are and that’s what we want to give prominence to and continue to work on that.

“We have got a very good group of players who are excited about that Test match and the tour at the end of the year.

“They want to restore the public’s faith after the World Cup, which was obviously disappointing. Every player you ask will want to play for his county, first and foremost.”
 
bruce

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What should the NZRL do now brightman ?
Business 101, cut your coat according to your cloth and don't chase good money after bad. Jim Doyle seemed to manage just fine when he was doing the job and I cannot imagine a Scotsman paying for games in Denver without asking a few questions of the promoter.

NRL payers get bonuses for rep selection, and the Kiwis have always been paid peanuts to play tests. They do it out of national pride and there will be enough around willing to do it as long as they don't have a train wreck for a coach.
 

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