jonesy101
When they announce the new coach I hope they say "The key is the Aussie".
leaguejunkie
Who exactly coined the phrase "The Ki is the Wi"? Was it Kidwell?
mt.wellington
Warriors Orange Peeler
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Classic Kidwell retardation. So glad he isn't around to fuck it up again...
leaguejunkie
Why am I not surprised that it was Kidwell
I wonder how he's going at the Eels. Brad's probably got one hell of a headache listening to him
surfin
You need to go to the AMA threads, you'll get plenty of answers I just doubt the answers would be worth getting.
I'm a bit torn here, I want to see the game grow, it also hopefully brings a bit of a cash injection for us and the poms, but I can see this turning into a half arse circus, with players not putting in properly and finishing up with injuries through taking shortcuts, for a Gary Freeman testimonial type muck around.
Viking
I'm sure they were actually Tongans the whole time, in fact I think they were born Tongans?
I would be disappointed if they jumped back to the Kiwis after the love they were given in the RLWC.
Run_it_str8
Didn't even know Griffin was one of ours.
Just read this on a story about Ponga at Newcastle from the NRL app
Fellow Knights newcomer Slade Griffin is also potentially in line for a representative call-up, with the former Melbourne Storm hooker choosing New Zealand international status, despite being eligible for New South Wales.
Griffin could come into the equation, given injuries surrounding long-time Kiwis hooker Issac Luke.
"I am a Kiwi, but I am dual," Griffin said.
"I played under 18s for New South Wales but I am pledged for New Zealand at the moment, but that's a long way coming I just have to play well for the Knights."
mt.wellington
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Stephen Kearney: Kiwis and Warriors can't do Denver double
13 May, 2018 5:00am
By: Michael Burgess
Warriors head coach Stephen Kearney. Photo / Photosport
Warriors coach Stephen Kearney has drawn a line in the sand with the Kiwis' Denver test on the horizon.
Any of his players who feature in the match against England at Mile High Stadium in late June won't be considered for the Warriors match against the Sharks three days later.
It could significantly alter the Warriors team, given the number of Kiwis contenders across the squad, but Kearney believes it's the only feasible solution.
The Kiwis squad arrive back from Denver on June 26 and the Warriors host Cronulla on June 29.
The New Zealand Rugby League have given assurances about player welfare but Kearney believes the timeline is too demanding.
"They get back on Tuesday after a 20-hour flight and we are playing on the Friday," Kearney told the Herald on Sunday. "It's unrealistic. Time zones, altitude, not to mention the game of footy, flights, preparation. At the moment, I would have to rule those players out. Absolutely. Flying over, playing, flying all the way back — there is no way you could do it."
To exacerbate matters, the Warriors face North Queensland in Townsville in the game before the Denver test.
Kearney, who played 45 tests before nine years as Kiwis coach, emphasises he is "totally supportive" of international league. He says he would have loved the chance to play in the United States but thinks more consultation and planning was necessary before this exercise.
"The issue was making the decision the week before the [NRL] season starts ... it just needs to be positioned properly," he said. "It's too much of a challenging situation."
The Warriors will be particularly affected, given they could also have a number of representatives in the Pacific tests in Australia the same weekend. That's where the scheduling makes no sense, especially with the Townsville trip adding an extra burden. A more logical solution could have seen the Warriors have home games either side of the test window, and their match against the Sharks played on a Sunday, which would give their Kiwis two more days to recover and possibly play.
That will be a discussion point for next year, but for now, an equitable solution needs to be found. It will help that Kearney and new Kiwis coach Michael Maguire have a strong relationship from their time together at the Melbourne Storm, but there is no easy answer without compromises on both sides.
"We'll have to work it out," Kearney said. "We all want to see test football and the Kiwis playing regularly. We need to get it sorted and come to some sort of middle ground."
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/article.cfm?c_id=79&objectid=12050355
13 May, 2018 5:00am
By: Michael Burgess
Warriors head coach Stephen Kearney. Photo / Photosport
Warriors coach Stephen Kearney has drawn a line in the sand with the Kiwis' Denver test on the horizon.
Any of his players who feature in the match against England at Mile High Stadium in late June won't be considered for the Warriors match against the Sharks three days later.
It could significantly alter the Warriors team, given the number of Kiwis contenders across the squad, but Kearney believes it's the only feasible solution.
The Kiwis squad arrive back from Denver on June 26 and the Warriors host Cronulla on June 29.
The New Zealand Rugby League have given assurances about player welfare but Kearney believes the timeline is too demanding.
"They get back on Tuesday after a 20-hour flight and we are playing on the Friday," Kearney told the Herald on Sunday. "It's unrealistic. Time zones, altitude, not to mention the game of footy, flights, preparation. At the moment, I would have to rule those players out. Absolutely. Flying over, playing, flying all the way back — there is no way you could do it."
To exacerbate matters, the Warriors face North Queensland in Townsville in the game before the Denver test.
Kearney, who played 45 tests before nine years as Kiwis coach, emphasises he is "totally supportive" of international league. He says he would have loved the chance to play in the United States but thinks more consultation and planning was necessary before this exercise.
"The issue was making the decision the week before the [NRL] season starts ... it just needs to be positioned properly," he said. "It's too much of a challenging situation."
The Warriors will be particularly affected, given they could also have a number of representatives in the Pacific tests in Australia the same weekend. That's where the scheduling makes no sense, especially with the Townsville trip adding an extra burden. A more logical solution could have seen the Warriors have home games either side of the test window, and their match against the Sharks played on a Sunday, which would give their Kiwis two more days to recover and possibly play.
That will be a discussion point for next year, but for now, an equitable solution needs to be found. It will help that Kearney and new Kiwis coach Michael Maguire have a strong relationship from their time together at the Melbourne Storm, but there is no easy answer without compromises on both sides.
"We'll have to work it out," Kearney said. "We all want to see test football and the Kiwis playing regularly. We need to get it sorted and come to some sort of middle ground."
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/article.cfm?c_id=79&objectid=12050355
Lord Gnome of Howick MBE
Have you seen the advert - 13 line backers vs 13 running backs, or something similar?
A difficult situation for SK but I hope he doesn't back down. After the Denver debacle those players need time to get a breath before coming back fit & fast for the end of season scramble.
bunnyglory
Rizzah
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Great concept, pity there isn't an extra week in the rep round break. Possibility for next years scheduling?
eudebrito
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That's good of Mooks to draw a line under it early, yes it will suck for Roger Tuivasa-Sheck and Harris (Johnson and Luke I suspect will have enough items on their medical file to be held out) go to Denver and miss a game, but that happens to teams with Origin players every year.
Will be interesting to see if the Dragons try and block Graham and Widdop for the poms as Sydney is an even longer flight than Auckland and they play on the Thursday following.
Will be interesting to see if the Dragons try and block Graham and Widdop for the poms as Sydney is an even longer flight than Auckland and they play on the Thursday following.
Run_it_str8
Hope the game doesn't turn into a fuck around game of touch.
The only problem is the timing as it seriously affects teams with reps.
We'll be pushing runny shit uphill with a fork to win the games either side.
We're already finding consistency (of playing, not of shit) a challenge enough.
The only problem is the timing as it seriously affects teams with reps.
We'll be pushing runny shit uphill with a fork to win the games either side.
We're already finding consistency (of playing, not of shit) a challenge enough.
matiunz
I’m usually a supporter of the other international game but would by far rather the Warriors won than the Kiwis in this instance. Can pretty much put a line through both the cows and Sharks games
razzrillinger
Had a look and with 5 weeks to go until the game, they haven't sold many tickets.
Let's hope more people turn up to this than the Denver Outlaws games (their lacrosse team that also play there).
Let's hope more people turn up to this than the Denver Outlaws games (their lacrosse team that also play there).
francis faafua
Stephen Kearney: Kiwis and Warriors can't do Denver double
13 May, 2018 5:00am
By: Michael Burgess
Warriors head coach Stephen Kearney. Photo / Photosport
Warriors coach Stephen Kearney has drawn a line in the sand with the Kiwis' Denver test on the horizon.
Any of his players who feature in the match against England at Mile High Stadium in late June won't be considered for the Warriors match against the Sharks three days later.
It could significantly alter the Warriors team, given the number of Kiwis contenders across the squad, but Kearney believes it's the only feasible solution.
The Kiwis squad arrive back from Denver on June 26 and the Warriors host Cronulla on June 29.
The New Zealand Rugby League have given assurances about player welfare but Kearney believes the timeline is too demanding.
"They get back on Tuesday after a 20-hour flight and we are playing on the Friday," Kearney told the Herald on Sunday. "It's unrealistic. Time zones, altitude, not to mention the game of footy, flights, preparation. At the moment, I would have to rule those players out. Absolutely. Flying over, playing, flying all the way back — there is no way you could do it."
To exacerbate matters, the Warriors face North Queensland in Townsville in the game before the Denver test.
Kearney, who played 45 tests before nine years as Kiwis coach, emphasises he is "totally supportive" of international league. He says he would have loved the chance to play in the United States but thinks more consultation and planning was necessary before this exercise.
"The issue was making the decision the week before the [NRL] season starts ... it just needs to be positioned properly," he said. "It's too much of a challenging situation."
The Warriors will be particularly affected, given they could also have a number of representatives in the Pacific tests in Australia the same weekend. That's where the scheduling makes no sense, especially with the Townsville trip adding an extra burden. A more logical solution could have seen the Warriors have home games either side of the test window, and their match against the Sharks played on a Sunday, which would give their Kiwis two more days to recover and possibly play.
That will be a discussion point for next year, but for now, an equitable solution needs to be found. It will help that Kearney and new Kiwis coach Michael Maguire have a strong relationship from their time together at the Melbourne Storm, but there is no easy answer without compromises on both sides.
"We'll have to work it out," Kearney said. "We all want to see test football and the Kiwis playing regularly. We need to get it sorted and come to some sort of middle ground."
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/article.cfm?c_id=79&objectid=12050355
brightman
The driving factor for holding the game in Denver, USA isn't gate sales but the broadcasters window over several different timezones, how else do you think RL can break into the USA and make money at the same time..
razzrillinger
Fair enough if that's the case but if you're looking to grow the game in the States and there's an empty stadium, that's not a great start.
Hopefully their negotiations with TV networks have gone well.
At a quick glance, looks like it'll be :
2pm local Denver time (Saturday 23/06)
4pm New York
1pm Los Angeles
9pm London
8am New Zealand
6am Sydney
Looks like they're targeting the UK market with those times.
Sky Waka
Isn't Luke Irish now. The coach said he changed too late to be included in the team. So that does mean he's Irish now though right, right?
Obviously he is going to back flip like DCE (Dirty C%<k Eater). However unlike DCE he is not a DCE.
Obviously he is going to back flip like DCE (Dirty C%<k Eater). However unlike DCE he is not a DCE.
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