Internationals Kiwi Team for October test

commonsense_old

Guest
Wow. Good to see some promising halves and hookers coming through in both teams. The cupboard was bare for a while in these positions.

Who would of thought, Cooper Vuna struggling to make an impact in PL just a few months ago now a Kiwi contender. Good on him. He sure made the right move.

Lack of depth at fullback is still a bit of a concern. While Perrett's played quite well, unless they go for Inu again it looks like he'll get the job by default. Lets face it, if he was going for Aussie fullback spot he'd be 11th or 12th in line.

I dont know if it would be wise to include Kidwell. He's really short of a gallop. He had little game time against Manly and complained of having heavy legs. May get found out in an up tempo game. Enough talent there to cause an upset though.

yeh good on vuna aye!

with fullback im surprised they didnt name talanoa in the train-on side. only played a handful of games at fullback but was effective in all games making monstrous metre gains.

perrett is the safe option at fullback. as player himself he is safe player. great under the highball but doesnt offer that much attacking flair. too bad eels arent using inu at fullback. cos this guy can develop into the top or at least top 3 fullback in the NRL. but man... i know this is a very old topic but how easier would life have been if karmichael hunt just chose the kiwis. oh well...

but there is definitely light under the tunnel. just take a look at the age of the guys in the squad. vast majority are under 23, which lead to a very bright future for the kiwis.
 

Joe 90_old

Guest
Yeah, i'd be naming as many players as possible, just so those nasty aussies cant get their hands on them.

As far as the depth goes it's getting better every year. There was a report earlier this year of a study of the future of the game, and i think they predicted by 2015 70% of NRL players will be of polynesian heritage 70%, thats huge. You'd have to think the majority of these would have Kiwi connections.
I think this will be the next biggest challenge for the NZRL. Tug of war with the ARL over these players.
 

Jesbass_old

Guest
yeh good on vuna aye!

with fullback im surprised they didnt name talanoa in the train-on side. only played a handful of games at fullback but was effective in all games making monstrous metre gains.

perrett is the safe option at fullback. as player himself he is safe player. great under the highball but doesnt offer that much attacking flair. too bad eels arent using inu at fullback. cos this guy can develop into the top or at least top 3 fullback in the NRL. but man... i know this is a very old topic but how easier would life have been if karmichael hunt just chose the kiwis. oh well...

but there is definitely light under the tunnel. just take a look at the age of the guys in the squad. vast majority are under 23, which lead to a very bright future for the kiwis.

Nah, he's been going great guns: 3 tries, (a hattrick against the Titans), 5 line breaks, 4 line break assists, 3 try assists, 48 tackle breaks, and 1,326 metres gained with an average of 189.4 per match. Those are defeinitely the hallmarks of an attacking player. He has either better totals or better averages, (depending on the stat), than Roosters first choice Anthony Minichiello, with three less matches in the position.
 

commonsense_old

Guest
Nah, he's been going great guns: 3 tries, (a hattrick against the Titans), 5 line breaks, 4 line break assists, 3 try assists, 48 tackle breaks, and 1,326 metres gained with an average of 189.4 per match. Those are defeinitely the hallmarks of an attacking player. He has either better totals or better averages, (depending on the stat), than Roosters first choice Anthony Minichiello, with three less matches in the position.

haha u love those stats dont u jesbass.

yeh that game he played well. but ive watched a few roosters games recently and he is more hesistant to inject himself like other confident fullbacks do (eg our very own wade mckinnon). i dont doubt he has the ability but from the performances i saw he just very laid back. return the ball hard off the kick-returns, but didnt involve himself as much as a real attacking fullback shouldve.
 

Jesbass_old

Guest
haha u love those stats dont u jesbass.

yeh that game he played well. but ive watched a few roosters games recently and he is more hesistant to inject himself like other confident fullbacks do (eg our very own wade mckinnon). i dont doubt he has the ability but from the performances i saw he just very laid back. return the ball hard off the kick-returns, but didnt involve himself as much as a real attacking fullback shouldve.

Lol, yeah mate - nrlstats.com is my happy place, lol.

Which match are you referring to? Those stats are from all of his efforts at fullback.
 

commonsense_old

Guest
saw the roosters take on the warriors, tigers and souths. i think perrett is a really good player. he will do a ton of work and try to support. but he isnt in the same attacking mould of say wade mckinnon. if the kiwis want an attacking fullback they should go for talanoa. but i would prefer perrett as he is much more safer under the highball.
 

Mangi-Maori_old

Guest
Kiwis train-on squad additions - 17 September 2007
Following the second week of NRL playoffs and the end of the Super League regular season, the following eleven players have been added to the Kiwis train-on squad: Louis ANDERSON, Nathan FEIN, Lance HOHAIA, Epalahame LAUAKI, Simon MANNERING, Sam RAPIRA, Evarn TUIMAVAVE (New Zealand Warriors), Ben ROBERTS, Matt UTAI, Sonny Bill WILLIAMS (Canterbury Bulldogs) and Vinnie ANDERSON (Warrington Wolves).

Vinnie gets a surprise call up - yay!
 

MiXmasterreece_old

Guest
Interesting to see utai back in the mix, although his previous behaviour will no doubt see his season end with the trainon squad
 

Joe 90_old

Guest
surprised koopu didnt get named.

I agree. We're short of a Michael Luck type grafter and Wai is probably the closest thing we've got. Maybe Louis or Mannering will get the job.

Anyone know what position Vinnie's been playing lately? Is it standoff? Also, has there been any update on SBWs injury?
 

commonsense_old

Guest
he has been playing in the backrow lately. last i saw which was a few months ago he was playing lock.
 

commonsense_old

Guest
sorry everyone SBW is out!!

Sonny Bill Williams out of NZ Test match
Monday, September 17, 2007 - 5:40 PM

Bulldogs superstar Sonny Bill Williams has been ruled out of the New Zealand side for next month's Test match against Australia.

X-rays on his right arm have revealed a spiral fracture of the radius, a result of the bone being twisted.

"It's like if you get a stick out of the garden and twist it and it breaks," Bulldogs doctor Hugh Hazard said off the damage that will rule Williams out for a minimum of eight weeks.

His specialist has yet to determine whether to insert a plate and recovery time is expected to be longer than the eight weeks without surgery.

The second-rower suffered the injury early in the Bulldogs' 25-6 semi-final loss to Parramatta on Saturday.

The Kiwis host Australia in Wellington on October 14.

Source: AAP
 

Tau Hoa_old

Guest
Fa'alogo and Williams out luckily we have substantial forward depth to compensate - till their return
maybe Mannering will be heading back to the engine room or Kemble is looking at ESL re-inforcements it's gonna be interesting.
 

Skinny_Ravs82

Guest
sorry if this has already been posted.

Fien back in line for Kiwis recall

https://yahooxtra.net.nz/sport/0,,14588-7898249,00.html


Hooker Nathan Fien, the centre of the "grannygate" row a year ago, was today added to the Kiwis rugby league train-on squad.

The former Queensland State of Origin hooker was ruled ineligible to play for New Zealand during last year's Tri-Nations series after already having appeared in two tests for the Kiwis.

The ruling came after it was revealed that his great-grandmother, and not his grandmother as required, was New Zealand-born.

However, Fien, 28, will be eligible to turn out for the Kiwis' next test, against Australia in Wellington on October 14, under another criterion -- he has lived in Auckland for the past three years.

New Kiwis coach Gary Kemble said he had spoken to Fien and the New Zealand Warrior was keen to don the Kiwis jumper again.

Kemble did not expect any negative reaction to the Mount Isa-born Fien's inclusion in the squad.

"At the end of the day, the rules and regulations are set in place by the International Rugby League Federation and we abide by those rules," he said.

"We will select any players available under those rules if they are the best available."

The latest list of 11 names for the train-on squad involves players from National Rugby League (NRL) and European Super League clubs eliminated from the competitions' playoffs at the weekend.

Among them is injured star forward Sonny Bill Williams, whose inclusion is subject to the results of X-rays he is expected to have today.

Williams hurt his right forearm in the eighth minute of the Bulldogs' 6-25 loss to Parramatta in their NRL elimination semifinal last Saturday night.

There were fears that he had suffered a fracture, although the injury did not prevent the back rower from going back on to the field with padding on the forearm.

Kemble said the extent of the problem was not yet known.

"They let it settle down and at this stage we don't know until the X-rays," he said.

"But he's got his fingers crossed that it's just badly bruised."

Also added to the squad was Warrington back rower Vinnie Anderson, whose club just failed to make the Super League post-season despite a 34-26 win over Salford at the weekend.

After the test against the Kangaroos, the Kiwis tour England and France.

Train-on squad additions: Louis Anderson, Nathan Fien, Lance Hohaia, Epalahame Lauaki, Simon Mannering, Sam Rapira, Evarn Tuimavave (all New Zealand Warriors); Ben Roberts, Matt Utai, Sonny Bill Williams (Bulldogs); and Vinnie Anderson (Warrington).

Players previously named: Roy Asotasi, Issac Luke, David Kidwell, Jeremy Smith (all South Sydney); Rangi Chase, Chase Stanley (both St George Illawarra); Luke Covell (Cronulla); Greg Eastwood (Brisbane); Dene Halatau, Bronson Harrison, Ben Teo'o, Taniela Tuiaki, Paul Whatuira (all Wests Tigers); Shaun Kenny-Dowall, Sam Perrett (both Sydney Roosters), Frank Pritchard (Penrith); Cooper Vuna (Newcastle); and Jake Webster (Gold Coast).
 

mac_old

Guest
My team considering injuries & selections. Have'nt figured in any ESL players as yet:

1. Perrett
2. Tuiaki
3. Whatuira (just to add a bit of experience)
4. Matai
5. Inu
6. Chase
7. Smith
8. Cayless
9. Fien
10. Asotasi
11. Rapira
12. Pritchard
13. Mannering

14. Moi Moi
15. Kidwell
16. Luke
17. Lauaki
 

Skinny_Ravs82

Guest
AH VAN ADDED TO TRAIN-ON SQUAD FOR JUNIOR KIWIS



https://warriors.sitesuite.ws/plugins/newsfeed.cgi?rm=content&plugin_data_id=20800


Vodafone Warriors utility Patrick Ah Van has been added to the train-on squad to prepare for the Junior Kiwis’ one-off test against the Junior Kangaroos in Wellington on October 14. Ah Van (19) has the most NRL experience of the players named in the squad.
He made 12 first-grade appearances for the Vodafone Warriors this year, lifting his career total to 27 since making his debut in 2006.
This will be the first time since 2001 that the two countries have played a junior international at the under-19 age group level. More recently these have been under-18 fixtures.
The match will be the curtain-raiser to the Centenary Test between the Kiwis and the Kangaroos.
The full train-on squad is: Leeson Ah Mau (Vodafone Warriors), Patrick Ah Van (Vodafone Warriors), Kingi Apula (Gold Coast), Sonny Fai (Vodafone Warriors), Liam Foran (Melbourne), Alex Green (Burleigh Bears), Scott Jones (Vodafone Warriors), Shaun Kenny-Dowall (Sydney Roosters), Meli Koliavu (Wellington), Iosefa Masada (Penrith), Howie Matthews (Vodafone Warriors), Russell Packer (Vodafone Warriors), Eddie Paea (South Sydney), Matt Parata (Bulldogs), Joseph Paulo (Penrith), Eddie Pettybourne (South Sydney), Upu Poching (Vodafone Warriors), Kevin Proctor (Melbourne), Eddie Purcell (Vodafone Warriors), Sam Stewart junior (Newcastle), A J Taumata (Sydney City), Taulima Tautai (Parramatta), Tony Williams (Parramatta).
 

Viking_old

Guest
Shontayne Hape just played in the loss to Wigan which ends Bradfords year, plenty of time for him to get back here for the first test. Has Hape got some club enforced "urgent" surgery booked for the off-season?
 

Jesbass_old

Guest
Shontayne Hape just played in the loss to Wigan which ends Bradfords year, plenty of time for him to get back here for the first test. Has Hape got some club enforced "urgent" surgery booked for the off-season?

Well that's heartening. Any idea on his form/fitness? It's likely Bradford will let him play, now that Brian Noble isn't the GB coach.
 

Joe 90_old

Guest
Geez, how well did that Jeremy Smith go for the Storm tonight. He looks like a strong bugger, with a good work rate who doesn't take a backward step.

If Kidwell is deemed not match fit enough to play, i'd like to see this guy get a shot in the 2nd row.
 

Similar threads

Replies
293
Views
17K
Kid-Dynamite_old
Replies
59
Views
4K
Jesbass_old
Replies
52
Views
3K
Magic Stick_old
Replies
103
Views
6K
Kid-Dynamite_old
Replies
34
Views
2K
MiXmasterreece_old