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Yes really.

They aren't as big. There isn't a standout player with the sort of skills previously seen like Shaun Johnson and K Locke. (Carlos could come under this but has been in and out with injuries and first grade). And Ackland has still managed to win again with a team that wouldn't be considered the best NYC team we have produced.

This is all true, you have made it into a massive rant about there needing to be a bit more structure and smarts in the Juniors which no one is disagreeing with by the way. It is fairly obvious that is the case even before the pathetic display last week.

Mate - arent they?? reallly
They are at least about the same weight, maybe even heavier.
Have a look at a comparison of the 2011 GF team and the 2012 semi-final team
Yes Sam Lousi - is a freak, however he is compensated by a bench that every player is over 100kg and likiliki close to 120
So that second bench will have 20kg+ on the 2011 GF bench.

Apart from Carlos - who is one of those most skilled players going around.
Siliva Havili would have to be considered in that catergory regardless of his size, he still has plenty of skill.
As would taukieaho - he can kick goals and legimately play every position bar 6,7 or 9.

So again you mention "ackland has still managed to win again with a team that wouldn't be considered the best NYC team we have produced"
my arguement it is a damn good team / squad and even wider pool of development.
A pool which scouts have stated is the biggest, richest pool of players around - so they have plenty to work with - close to the best lot of players in the league.

It is easy to talk about previous teams after the fact.

As for being "fairly obvious" well I have been harping on about it for years - when most of being saluting the 20s/club/coaching staff for their successes.
It is pretty topical not just considering their loss, but also their upcoming REVIEW again off which you will see some changes next year i am sure.


Check out the teams:

2011 GF Team:

1. Omar Slaimankhel
2. Adam Henry
3. Sosaia Feki
4. Konrad Hurrell
5. Dylan Collier
6. Carlos Tuimavave
7. Jordan Meads
8. Ligi Sao
9. Eko Malu
10. Donald Tony
11. Sam Lousi
12. Ben Henry (C)
13. Sebastine Ikahihifo

Interchange:
14. Siliva Havili
15. George Maka
16. Agnatius Paasi
17. Sio Siua Taukeiaho


2012 PLAYOFF TEAM:

1 PETA HIKU
2 VILIAMI LOLOHEA
3 NGANI LAUMAPE
4 NGATAUA HUKATAI
5 DAVID FUSITUA
6 CARLOS TUIMAVAVE
7 MASON LINO
8 LIGI SAO
9 SILIVA HAVILI
10 SIULONGOUA FOTOFILI
11 JOHN PALAVI (c)
12 SIO SIUA TAUKEIAHO
13 DAVID BHANA
Interchange:
14 TRENT BISHOP
15 TOKA LIKILIKI
16 NATHANIEL PETERU
17 ALBERT VETE
 
Mate - arent they?? reallly
They are at least about the same weight, maybe even heavier.
Have a look at a comparison of the 2011 GF team and the 2012 semi-final team
Yes Sam Lousi - is a freak, however he is compensated by a bench that every player is over 100kg and likiliki close to 120
So that second bench will have 20kg+ on the 2011 GF bench.

Apart from Carlos - who is one of those most skilled players going around.
Siliva Havili would have to be considered in that catergory regardless of his size, he still has plenty of skill.
As would taukieaho - he can kick goals and legimately play every position bar 6,7 or 9.

So again you mention "ackland has still managed to win again with a team that wouldn't be considered the best NYC team we have produced"
my arguement it is a damn good team / squad and even wider pool of development.
A pool which scouts have stated is the biggest, richest pool of players around - so they have plenty to work with - close to the best lot of players in the league.

It is easy to talk about previous teams after the fact.

As for being "fairly obvious" well I have been harping on about it for years - when most of being saluting the 20s/club/coaching staff for their successes.
It is pretty topical not just considering their loss, but also their upcoming REVIEW again off which you will see some changes next year i am sure.


Check out the teams:

2011 GF Team:

1. Omar Slaimankhel
2. Adam Henry
3. Sosaia Feki
4. Konrad Hurrell
5. Dylan Collier
6. Carlos Tuimavave
7. Jordan Meads
8. Ligi Sao
9. Eko Malu
10. Donald Tony
11. Sam Lousi
12. Ben Henry (C)
13. Sebastine Ikahihifo

Interchange:
14. Siliva Havili
15. George Maka
16. Agnatius Paasi
17. Sio Siua Taukeiaho


2012 PLAYOFF TEAM:

1 PETA HIKU
2 VILIAMI LOLOHEA
3 NGANI LAUMAPE
4 NGATAUA HUKATAI
5 DAVID FUSITUA
6 CARLOS TUIMAVAVE
7 MASON LINO
8 LIGI SAO
9 SILIVA HAVILI
10 SIULONGOUA FOTOFILI
11 JOHN PALAVI (c)
12 SIO SIUA TAUKEIAHO
13 DAVID BHANA
Interchange:
14 TRENT BISHOP
15 TOKA LIKILIKI
16 NATHANIEL PETERU
17 ALBERT VETE

This is a lot of words for a post that adds nothing.
 
My view on the juniors is that if they are winning, the club is winning. It's not how they win, it's if they win.

We have the best pool of players to choose from. They are the biggest and up there as the most skilled group in the competition but like most teams in the comp, the footy IQ lacks. That's what you get when you have 17 teenagers playing in this sort of competition.

Anyone who thinks Ackland isn't instilling some knowledge of the game regarding playing smart and using tactics is dreaming. The style of footy they are playing is clearly working, proven with the back to back championships and being a chance of a three-peat. You play to your strengths and the crash and bash, flashy style our boys play works. Unfortunately if they haven't built a solid lead towards the back end of a match they struggle, not every team can have it all. Last week was certainly a game they should have won but they didn't. The players won't forget that and they will learn from that more than they would any coaches speech at training or post match.

The competition was bought about to attract players, develop skills, give them experience of big time games and really give the young fullas the best exposure possible to be a chance of signing first grade contracts with current or other clubs. I will always be happier for the juniors to concentrate on winning than solely player development. The players with the skill, heart and potential for first grade will shine regardless.
 
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My view on the juniors is that if they are winning, the club is winning. It's not how they win, it's if they win.

We have the best pool of players to choose from. They are the biggest and up there as the most skilled group in the competition but like most teams in the comp, the footy IQ lacks. That's what you get when you have 17 teenagers playing in this sort of competition.

Anyone who thinks Ackland isn't instilling some knowledge of the game regarding playing smart and using tactics is dreaming. The style of footy they are playing is clearly working, proven with the back to back championships and being a chance of a three-peat. You play to your strengths and the crash and bash, flashy style our boys play works. Unfortunately if they haven't built a solid lead towards the back end of a match they struggle, not every team can have it all. Last week was certainly a game they should have won but they didn't. The players won't forget that and they will learn from that more than they would any coaches speech at training or post match.

The competition was bought about to attract players, develop skills, give them experience of big time games and really give the young fullas the best exposure possible to be a chance of signing first grade contracts with current or other clubs. I will always be happier for the juniors to concentrate on winning than solely player development. The players with the skill, heart and potential for first grade will shine regardless.

The club aint winning lol...

Cool mate - we obviously have differing views to this.
You obviously have the same view of the Warriors club as whole currently.
We will see if this view changes with their review.

I dont doubt he is instilling some knowledge ...however as stated earlier I strongly disagree with your other staments and philosophies.
We will leave it at that.

Back to this match - this should be epic.
Evans & Napa are the best front row in the competition and if the warriors boys can beat the roosters it will give them plenty of confidence to go all the way.
 
Got to realize a lot of this years side is only 18 and have at least another 3 years to develop. Most of these boys are born in 1994.

Well tbh it is a mix of ages
Which is a great idea because some of these blokes will continue to lead the side in years to come

I think only a few a born in 94 though:
Mason Lino
Fusitua
Hukatai
James Taylor

Many are too old for 20s. And a few like Havili, Bishop, Bhana who have one more year
 
Can't wait for kickoff in this game tonight. Nervous though, Bulldogs went out in two weeks. Hope we don't suffer the same fate.

Warriors 41 Rooters 38
 

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