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The club might have been high on Cleary and his development while he was here but every single loss on stiff.co.nz was flooded with comments about sacking Cleary and replacing him with Bluey as he'd won a couple of comps in Super League. They got their wish and look how that worked out.

Good article with Castle and Doyle. They both bring up some interesting points. Also like Castle's point about discussing stuff written in the paper that is wrong majority of the time; Doyle said the same thing last year if the press call him they don't get a story as he shoots it down straight away.

100 % agree.
And if the players come out and say its not the coach its us then play like they did against the bulldogs maybe cappy does know what he's doing and it was the players attitude that was messed up not the game plan.

STILL MY TEAM 100% WARRIOR FOR LIFE

 

[mt.wellington]

That's not to winning a premiership, apparently, and Doyle reckons that's not his measure of success at the Warriors either. Funny, you'd think that was the sole purpose of every rugby league club.

Dont agree with this line. At the end of the day your reign will be remembered for either winning a Premiership or not. The rest is just filler...

 

[bruce]

The club might have been high on Cleary and his development while he was here but every single loss on stiff.co.nz was flooded with comments about sacking Cleary and replacing him with Bluey as he'd won a couple of comps in Super League.

I don't remember that.

 

[snake77]

I don't remember that.

Pretty much every loss in 2011 had the comments on stuff flooded with "sack Cleary bring in Bluey, we need a winner and he's won Super League twice". Or there were comments about Cleary being an idiot as he needs to bring in Johnson; thankfully those were followed by someone pointing out that Johnson was out with a back injury.

Your memory might be fuzzy cause I had a typo it was on stuff.co.nz not stiff.co.nz


A lot has been written about the pressure on the coach with our performances this year. Doyle strikes me as the type of guy if he needs to sack the coach the consequences won't be just isolated to the coach there would be players going with him. Bascially I wouldn't be surprised if we recruit heavily again for next season.

 

[Miket12]

Your memory might be fuzzy cause I had a typo it was on stuff.co.nz not stiff.co.nz

That did have me concerned about your internet surfing habits!!!

Even on the old VOT site, there were calls (mainly from Nig IIRC) to have Bluey replace Ivan after any loses.

 

[Vancent]

Yep I was one, I thought at the time Ivan was solid but couldn't take us to that next level, also thought Bluey could due to ESL and NZ success,

Embarrassed to say I was in that wrong bus destined for nowhere.......

 

[Miket12]

Yep I was one, I thought at the time Ivan was solid but couldn't take us to that next level, also thought Bluey could due to ESL and NZ success,

Embarrassed to say I was in that wrong bus destined for nowhere.......

I know the bus metephor sits well with Bluey.... but I tend to think of it more as a train wreck.

 

[bruce]

Pretty much every loss in 2011 had the comments on stuff flooded with "sack Cleary bring in Bluey, we need a winner and he's won Super League twice".

I didn't read Stuff comments then, rarely do even now. I think there might have been an anti John Hart/Ivan Cleary clique in the Auckland game. There are some famous names in that group. I have nothing against Bluey but he was always over rated even in Auckland. His father was an excellent coach both here and with St Helens, I think Bluey lived a lot on luck and the name.

 

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[jonno]

"We want our athletes to be 24hr athletes." JD

Guess that slams the door on Konrad then...

 

[jonno]

JD is taking this club to rock bottom if he has to, to get the change he want's...

Not sure what that change is anymore, but I sure hope it's good.

 

[bruce]

JD is taking this club to rock bottom if he has to, to get the change he want's...

Not sure what that change is anymore, but I sure hope it's good.

If a patient has cancer you cannot cut and leave some to grow, you have to get rid of all of it.

 

[jonno]

If a patient has cancer you cannot cut and leave some to grow, you have to get rid of all of it.

Well seeing as the cancer in attitude, it can be changed by critical mass of good attitude players.

Hurrell leaving might be about 30 - 40% of the cure all by himself... 5 or 6 more senior players and support staff leaving the club might do the trick.

 

[bruce]

Well seeing as the cancer in attitude, it can be changed by critical mass of good attitude players.

Hurrell leaving might be about 30 - 40% of the cure all by himself... 5 or 6 more senior players and support staff leaving the club might do the trick.

If that clown Hurrell had any influence in that team that would be disastrous alone.

 

[mt.wellington]

Answering via Warriors Facebook page...

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[Matulino's Left Shoulder]

Look forward to the umpteen questions about Foran and Tapau.

 

[glory_hog]

pretty standard fair from the live Q&A with JD. nothing new really, but a question was asked whether cappy would be here next season, whether we made the playoffs or not... and it sounded like he would, so for me listening what JD said, cappy will be our coach next year.

 

[bruce]

pretty standard fair from the live Q&A with JD. nothing new really, but a question was asked whether cappy would be here next season, whether we made the playoffs or not... and it sounded like he would, so for me listening what JD said, cappy will be our coach next year.

Interesting and makes sense. Last night on NRL 360 Geoff Toovey was high in his praise of the Warriors and Mark Gasnier said if they keep defending like this we might go a long way this season. Toovey is not one to use 10 words if a grunt will do so I was impressed by his attitude.

 

[6 Again]

Probably the thing I took from it was that Ata Hingano still has an equal shot at five eight, It was certainly a different response to the statement he made recently when Lolohea was apparently being head hunted by clubs in Sydney quote "Cappy sees Tui's future in the halves alongside Shaun. That's one of the reasons why we agreed to let Thomas go a year early."

So the feedback from Cappy to Jim now reading between the lines is Hingano is also in Cappy's plans or he wouldn't have thought to mention his name, certainly a different response to that of Shaun Johnson who came out and said Tui would be his halves partner next season. So perhaps a bit of a smoke screen there but good to know Hingano is still very much in the mix.

 

[bruce]

Probably the thing I took from it was that Ata Hingano still has an equal shot at five eight, It was certainly a different response to the statement he made recently when Lolohea was apparently being head hunted by clubs in Sydney quote "Cappy sees Tui's future in the halves alongside Shaun. That's one of the reasons why we agreed to let Thomas go a year early."

So the feedback from Cappy to Jim now reading between the lines is Hingano is also in Cappy's plans or he wouldn't have thought to mention his name, certainly a different response to that of Shaun Johnson who came out and said Tui would be his halves partner next season. So perhaps a bit of a smoke screen there but good to know Hingano is still very much in the mix.

We have four NRL capable halves for next year. Two of them are still learning the trade. If we had only two we would be in deep trouble.