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Jayson Bukuya

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Bukuya - adds punch to the backrow. Very tough and strong on defence, not scared of the big men at all and willing to kamikaze into the tackle which takes pressure off Johnson and Hurrell when were up against ppl like Taylor, Idris, etc who love to run at Shaun. Breath of fresh air to our weak-ass backrow we've had for the last few seasons.
It gets very tough to find a place for Bukuya next season. If we have Mannering, Hoffman, Matulino, Benry and Seb, where do we fit him? I have even replaced Mateo with Matulino. I think I would start with Mannering and Hoffman, with Seb at 13, and use Matulino and Benry off the bench. That means that we will have an endless list of players clogging up NSW Cup waiting for an injury. Bukuya, RFM, Palavi, Sam Lousi (not looking good for ever being ready), Bhana, Peyroux, etc will all be fighting for one or two spots max. I see a lot of players moving on. Probably Bukuya will be one of the first, but he would be my next in line for a spot.
 
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Nahz

would anyone ever consider Bukuya at hooker?..
 
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It gets very tough to find a place for Bukuya next season. If we have Mannering, Hoffman, Matulino, Benry and Seb, where do we fit him? I have even replaced Mateo with Matulino. I think I would start with Mannering and Hoffman, with Seb at 13, and use Matulino and Benry off the bench. That means that we will have an endless list of players clogging up NSW Cup waiting for an injury. Bukuya, RFM, Palavi, Sam Lousi (not looking good for ever being ready), Bhana, Peyroux, etc will all be fighting for one or two spots max. I see a lot of players moving on. Probably Bukuya will be one of the first, but he would be my next in line for a spot.

Oops, just realised that was an off-topic post. Better fix it.

So, how bout that Sam Tomkins, huh? Pretty good, aye.:angelic:

I believe it will be
11.Matulino
12.Hoffman
13.Mannering

14.Bukuya
15.Henry
16.
17.
 
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I believe it will be
11.Matulino
12.Hoffman
13.Mannering

14.Bukuya
15.Henry
16.
17.

Oh yeah and 1.Tomkins
I see Seb having more dominance, power and mongrel than Bukake, so more value. He plays as an extra prop and gives us a bit of go forward.
 
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I see Seb having more dominance, power and mongrel than Bukake, so more value. He plays as an extra prop and gives us a bit of go forward.

And, yeah Sam at 1.

This is how I think it will run:

8. Sam Rapira
9. Nathan Friend
10. Ben Matulino
11. Jayson Bukuya
12. Ryan Hoffman
13. Simon Mannering (which is a heck of a starting pack)

14. Jacob Lillyman
15. Suaia Matagi
16. Sebastine Ikahihifo
17. Ben Henry

The way I see this playing out is having Ben Mutts start in the middle, and then play a kind of roving role on the left edge, interplaying with Ryan Hoffman whose very adept at playing close in, as well as on the edge. You have Bull, Suaia and Seb sharing the load of the middle forwards role, really strengthening that part of our pack. Benry as the ultimate mr fix-it, but will primarily be used as an edge forward, resting Bukuya or whomever needs it. With Benry there we have cover for centre (or winger, by pushing out a centre to wing), back row, hooker even as a running 5/8 at a pinch... I love that forward pack.
 
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would anyone ever consider Bukuya at hooker?.. ....oh & that Tompkins had a good game didnt he..;)
Been getting more and more concerned with Jayson Bukuya's defence lately. Has the ability to absolutely smash players but he's been guilty of a few lazy jersey grabs or not putting his shoulder into it. Jamie Sowards try last week was a good example of it. Hope Cappy rips into him during the video sesh...
 
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I haven't seen a lot from Buyuka personally. Didn't he only run for 34 metres in the weekend?? He
hasn't offered a lot and doesn't seem to be all that consistent.

With Hoffman coming next season Buyuka on current form should be the first to drop down. People selecting Buyuka over Seb have surely got to be kidding themselves. Even Mateo is playing better at the moment in my eyes.
 
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I haven't seen a lot from Buyuka personally. Didn't he only run for 34 metres in the weekend?? He
hasn't offered a lot and doesn't seem to be all that consistent.

With Hoffman coming next season Buyuka on current form should be the first to drop down. People selecting Buyuka over Seb have surely got to be kidding themselves. Even Mateo is playing better at the moment in my eyes.
He got injured, didn't play many minutes.
 
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He got injured, didn't play many minutes.

Yeah fair point. I'm just looking at it from a season perspective I guess. I think Seb, Mannering and Mutts have been significantly better over the course of the season and Hoffman is a big upgrade over Buyuka too.

I'm just going on current form though he is definitely an athletic talent, be nice if he turns it around and makes a bigger impact.
 
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None of our imports are playing as well as they did last year.

Tomkins we've heard it because he has come from a weaker competition even though the worst part of his play this year has been un forced errors ( some people need to look up what un forced means in the dictionary )

Tomkins has hit a flat form patch. He will adjust and stop the panic mistakes , get used to the Warriors and be a dominant force in that team too.

Chad hasn't reached his great form of last year. He is in a different role so he's going good as the bridesmaid , in years to come he will be a dominant half with the kicking game as he was in the NSW cup. Finding his role in the Warriors and back in the NRL ( very inexperienced ) he's having a top season now. Much more to come from that fullah.

Bukyua is well off last year. To me it's pretty obvious why,

He played alongside a better forward pack and a sht back line with one very good player ( Carney ) in it. Cronulla use halfback second row link plays like we used to , and put second rowers in holes , Bukuya has a good instinct for running the hole.

Tomkins arival has changed our style to a structured Backline attacking team.....we used to put Luck and Lowrie _ Taylor in half gaps around the ruck ( Mannering too ) none of those guys have the running game of Bukuya.......we have gone away from that scoring through the forwards because we have the strike power and ball distributors in our spine to make those constant ruck set moves a lesser option.

I think if you switched Bukuya to the left edge besides Townsend you would see what I'm talking about.....that Fulluah Townsend is the one who has a set move with Matulino and Tomkins that would normally be the way Bukuya and Carney played together at the Sharks,

So one solution to get more out of Bukuya is to put him with Townsend...that would get immediate success from any end of the field they could run that move and we'd see Bukuya go through the hole and pass to Tomkins who runs as the support ( ala Matulino passed to TL on to Tomkins rom inside our half V the dogs ) and boom......Warriors have a length of the field try scoring threat off a set play.

That would be the quick fix impatient way to go about it.

The right thing to do is leave things as they are and get Johnson and Tomkins running that same Move on the right edge.

Hoffmans coming next year and he is better at that left set play than Matulino and Bukuya so putting Bukuya there now is a waste of time.

Johnson's very good at linking with a forward when he gets familiar with them.....

This year Johnson has used Bukuya as his decoy a lot.....which in a way is a shame.....wrong forward....bit of a waste.....Johnson has tried to go flat to Bukuya when he runs the decoy and hit him in the way Mateo hits other flat runners ( Simon Mannering V the Titans TRY ) but the issue is they need more time together.....a lot of the time Johnson picks the right option but their collective timing is out ( both players....just need more time ).

Mcfadden needs to start focusing on getting more out of Johnson and Bukuya as a pair ......Johnons our best player......Bukuya is a great hole runner....sort it out.

The positives are a lot of our repeat sets come out of the nice understanding Bukuya and Johnson have with the in goal kicks, we see the odd try being scored there.....more importantly we see the opposition forced to ground the ball in goal because Johnson has put Bukuya down their necks chasing.

The other positive is that when the Warriors show more faith in Bukuya and make plays to put him in half gaps we have an extra move to fool the opposition into thinking it's going to go to Hurrell.

Boom too much strike power in close and out wide on both sides.......Warriors go top attacking team in the NRL.

Bukuya is not a hit up forward....he's an attack forward.....usually Gallen and Fifita hog all the ball till they use Bukuya like a back coz there backs are shit.

Hoffman coming means we don't need Matangi.

Matulino goes Prop......

Room is made for a very strong back row that has Hoffman who hits up like a fourth Prop.....our three best Props spend more time on the field ( they actually play better with longer minutes...the four prop has become a Myth.....those guys aren't the tear away run over the opposition young bucks they once were when Packer was good......they're all tradesmen Senior Props now....use it.....consistent quality minutes is better for us than an impact Prop like Matangi that may see our go forward lift or drop depending on the mood Matangi is in.....we drop off when the bench come on....I'd prefer grinding Props took all the minutes while Hurrell Laumape Manu and Hoffman eat meters and we look more like the Storm up front with a better back trio of monster backs and a better back row than theirs hopefully = we become a consistent team like them...few mistakes,,,,few brain farts.....experienced machine).

Bukuya Mannering Hoffman Seb.
 
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Bukuya is not a hit up forward....he's an attack forward.....usually Gallen and Fifita hog all the ball till they use Bukuya like a back coz there backs are shit.

Nice. I always thought Bukuya might need to take some more hit ups as he never comes in to throw a hit up in, but this makes sense to why he doesn't...which I agree, he is not a hit up forward and best left on the edges as a hole runner.
 
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^ ^ ^ Some good points about the player combinations, Sup. I think we'll see Bukuya and Johnson combine more on the right as their combination gets more experience. They're already doing well on defence, and at the moment I don't think we can underestimate how much influence Bukuya has making the moves to the right as dynamic as they are.

Sure, he doesn't get the ball much, but he still takes a defender's attention, and that often gives Tomkins the chance to flip one of those super-quick passes out to Koni. Sooner or later, that defender is going to look at Tomkins and Hurrell, and Johnson's going to be able to slip a ball to Bukuya in a gap. Obviously it'll be more effective inside the opposition 30m, as that's where the bulk of those sweet right-side moves are happening.
 
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^ ^ ^ Some good points about the player combinations, Sup. I think we'll see Bukuya and Johnson combine more on the right as their combination gets more experience. They're already doing well on defence, and at the moment I don't think we can underestimate how much influence Bukuya has making the moves to the right as dynamic as they are.

Sure, he doesn't get the ball much, but he still takes a defender's attention, and that often gives Tomkins the chance to flip one of those super-quick passes out to Koni. Sooner or later, that defender is going to look at Tomkins and Hurrell, and Johnson's going to be able to slip a ball to Bukuya in a gap. Obviously it'll be more effective inside the opposition 30m, as that's where the bulk of those sweet right-side moves are happening.
Yep. Next year all those little tweak suggestions in your post will be fine tuned in the off season and we'll see Bukuya get more ball ( they did try use him that way in the Broncs trial with mixed / poor result ,,,,but Shauns a different player now, his timing is beautiful )
It's actually good that we have more to come....more options like Bukuya getting ball ala when he and Seb combined V the storm to confuse the defence which Shaun mesmerized while they were shitting themselves fuck the Warriors are going jungle ball and the Game in on the knife edge inside our twenty....Bukuya and Ikaakihihihifo weren't on the tip sheet......Bukake has passed to johnson....where am I ? Mama help me.....'

haha take that Storm Bitches ....Johnson to Fusitua......Fusitua !!! JOHNSON TRYYYYY
 
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Yep. Next year all those little tweak suggestions in your post will be fine tuned in the off season and we'll see Bukuya get more ball ( they did try use him that way in the Broncs trial with mixed / poor result ,,,,but Shauns a different player now, his timing is beautiful )
It's actually good that we have more to come....more options like Bukuya getting ball ala when he and Seb combined V the storm to confuse the defence which Shaun mesmerized while they were shitting themselves fuck the Warriors are going jungle ball and the Game in on the knife edge inside our twenty....Bukuya and Ikaakihihihifo weren't on the tip sheet......Bukake has passed to johnson....where am I ? Mama help me.....'

haha take that Storm Bitches ....Johnson to Fusitua......Fusitua !!! JOHNSON TRYYYYY
Hell yeah - way more to come. I reckon we'll still use Bukuya as a dummy runner a lot though - can you imagine the gaps that must be opening up on the inside of Johnson when defences are looking at a lineup of Johnson, Bukuya, Tomkins, Hurrell and Fusitua? There's going to be a hole you could fit my ego into, so if Seb or a prop hammer that gap they might at the most have a cover defender cruising over, not really thinking he's needed, then BOOM. Get a big Seb in yo face, futhermucker.
 
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This is how I think it will run:

8. Sam Rapira
9. Nathan Friend
10. Ben Matulino
11. Jayson Bukuya
12. Ryan Hoffman
13. Simon Mannering (which is a heck of a starting pack)

14. Jacob Lillyman
15. Suaia Matagi
16. Sebastine Ikahihifo
17. Ben Henry

The way I see this playing out is having Ben Mutts start in the middle, and then play a kind of roving role on the left edge, interplaying with Ryan Hoffman whose very adept at playing close in, as well as on the edge. You have Bull, Suaia and Seb sharing the load of the middle forwards role, really strengthening that part of our pack. Benry as the ultimate mr fix-it, but will primarily be used as an edge forward, resting Bukuya or whomever needs it. With Benry there we have cover for centre (or winger, by pushing out a centre to wing), back row, hooker even as a running 5/8 at a pinch... I love that forward pack.

overtime arent you like myself sick of looking to the next year for the Warriors....whilst in theory that sounds great
but hey we in the 8 right now & on the improve week by week,believe we have a genuine chance THIS YEAR.......GO DA WARRIORS!.......next year can wait;)
 
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overtime arent you like myself sick of looking to the next year for the Warriors....whilst in theory that sounds great
but hey we in the 8 right now & on the improve week by week,believe we have a genuine chance THIS YEAR.......GO DA WARRIORS!.......next year can wait;)
If we beat the Eels I will be where your thinking is at now.

If we beat the Eels we are putting teams that have us worked out like Penrith behind us on a consistent basis.

Eight games and a form streak away from going from a cripple handicap to winning a minor premiership.

Madness.
 
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Sup - while I agree with you in part, I actually think one of the reasons Konnie is getting as much time and space this year is because of Bukuya running off Shaun Johnson.. everyone knows that Shaun Johnson is throwing it out the back to Tomkins to give it to Konrad. but the defensive lines would slide earlier to shut it down if it wasn't for Bukuya running the short inside line...

Shaun Johnson plays what's in front of him as well if not better than most players in the comp... if he sees them sliding early - watch Bukuya get the ball and stroll over...

for next year - my pack would be Jake and Rapira to start up front. Mannering at lock, Bukuya and Hoffman on the edges.

Seb off the bench to provide some impact - I love him at lock this year, but bringing him and Matulino on off the bench could provide some real impetus. Henry off the bench as well (utility cover for back row, hooker, centre if needed), and then either a fourth prop, or a genuine utility (depending on who they play where)...

means no Mateo though. Oh well.
 
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Bukuya is a guy who plays fast. As others have mentioned his best asset is hole running. I reckon with our best side out there he is a player who would suit coming off the bench at right hand second row through the middle of the game and playing fast. Hitting defenders in the arms, running fast, quick plays of the ball.

He is a bit guilty of tackling like a union player, by that I mean he doesnt hit and stick to wrap up the ball, I think this is often due to his lack of size. He hits and then slides down to a legs tackle so that he doesn't get taken for a ride. This often leads to offloads in his tackle. He has been by no means bad, I just think he needs the confidence to hit harder with his shoulder and stick and stay with the wrestle until the 2nd man in comes to help finish off the tackle.
 
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I've prob been his biggest critic, only because I've always rated him and IMO he hasn't come near his top form this year- it would be great timing tho if he could start firing in the back end of the year.
It is hard to see where he fits into future plans with Hoffman coming and some of the young guys starting to kick on but there's always injuries and having mutts, seb and mannerers all able to cover the middle means he should still see plenty of game time-and if our young guys are playing well enough to push him out of the side that can only be a good thing.
 
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