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bruce

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Not only that Aotearoa Warriors to me just looks better.
The first people here called it Aotearoa. The second dude was a lost Dutchman who named it after the North Sea coast of the Netherlands, go figure. I can just see the Aussies try to pronounce it though, especially Greg Alexander.
 
Beastmode

Beastmode

Just another day in paradise
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When Eric Watson speaks.

People listen.

:brb:
 
mt.wellington

mt.wellington

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When the club's name was initially changed from Auckland to New Zealand Warriors, it was done to get the whole of the country behind the team.
Biggest crock of shit myth about our history going around.

The name was changed from Auckland Warriors to New Zealand Warriors because Eric Watson wound down the Auckland Warriors. People see the Auckland Warriors and the New Zealand Warriors as clubs but when you boil it down they are businesses. What Watson did was buyout the Auckland Warriors, close it down, take its assets and use those to start a fresh business. The New Zealand Warriors. Corporate takeover. Watsons bread and butter.

Truth is the Auckland Warriors only assets were its licence to play in the NRL and its logo. Everything else was disposed of including the players contracts. Had Watson have stuck with the Auckland Warriors company he would have had to honour the players Super League hangover inflated contracts and also pay the companies debts to vendors. What history will show, and prove, is that the players were forced to sign new contracts with their new employer and vendors from the security guard company to the hotdog stand owner were left out of pocket. Its why we lost players like Robbie Mears and Joe Vagana and didnt have to honour our suppliers contract with Nike and instead got Puma onboard. None of which would have been possible if the New Zealand Warriors werent a completely new company.

So while the sentiments of trying to capture the hearts of the nation are romantic and all that type of shit the reality is it was all about money. Like most things are...
 
Johnnyray

Johnnyray

Biggest crock of shit myth about our history going around.

The name was changed from Auckland Warriors to New Zealand Warriors because Eric Watson wound down the Auckland Warriors. People see the Auckland Warriors and the New Zealand Warriors as clubs but when you boil it down they are businesses. What Watson did was buyout the Auckland Warriors, close it down, take its assets and use those to start a fresh business. The New Zealand Warriors. Corporate takeover. Watsons bread and butter.

Truth is the Auckland Warriors only assets were its licence to play in the NRL and its logo. Everything else was disposed of including the players contracts. Had Watson have stuck with the Auckland Warriors company he would have had to honour the players Super League hangover inflated contracts and also pay the companies debts to vendors. What history will show, and prove, is that the players were forced to sign new contracts with their new employer and vendors from the security guard company to the hotdog stand owner were left out of pocket. Its why we lost players like Robbie Mears and Joe Vagana and didnt have to honour our suppliers contract with Nike and instead got Puma onboard. None of which would have been possible if the New Zealand Warriors werent a completely new company.

So while the sentiments of trying to capture the hearts of the nation are romantic and all that type of shit the reality is it was all about money. Like most things are...

Amen Brother.

It's always been about the money.
 
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bruce

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Truth is the Auckland Warriors only assets were its licence to play in the NRL and its logo. Everything else was disposed of including the players contracts. Had Watson have stuck with the Auckland Warriors company he would have had to honour the players Super League hangover inflated contracts and also pay the companies debts to vendors. What history will show, and prove, is that the players were forced to sign new contracts with their new employer and vendors from the security guard company to the hotdog stand owner were left out of pocket.
It was quite disgraceful.

All started by Ian Robson and a weak chairman from Dominion Breweries who handed a poisoned chalice to Bill McGowan. In 1995 the average crowd was 26450, in 1996 it was 20126 and in 1997 15442. By 1998 it was below 9000.

The Tainui paid $2 million up front to the Auckland Rugby League, Eric Watson got it for free with no debt. Pretty good businessman. In hindsight the Auckland Rugby League were bloody lucky to get the $2 million. The mismanagement of the Warriors from day one was an open secret. Something should have been done about it.
 
Diesel

Diesel

I agree with installing national pride and an emphasis that there is a NZ v Aust game each week. The Australians, Poms, whoever else that join the club should be known that national pride is on the line and they need to buy in or piss off. I don't agree with the NZ name for the Warriors, it implies we are a national sporting team when we are not, that is the Kiwis
 
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surfin

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There was a time gap between the Lowe/Boyle/Tainui collapse, which if I recall left players like Stephen Kearney out of pocket for a years salary, and Watson taking over. The NZRFL took ownership in the meantime in conjunction with the NRL. They went scouting for investment options and that is when Watson came on board. All he had to do was underwrite the club, he didn't have to pay anything for it. The name change happened as soon as the NZRFL took over so it had nothing to do with Watson.

The jersey colour issue was a combination of the change to the NZRFL and sponsorship dislike of the DB Green component of the old Warriors jersey. What a marketing disaster that was, a terrible beer and terrible management.

Kearney never played under the Tainui, Lowe, Boyle regime, he left for Melbourne when they took over.
 
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mt.wellington

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Eric Watson: New coach Elliott is no lame duck

- By Eric Watson

I've copped a bit of flak since I've been back, usually along the lines of, "Any more big bold predictions, Eric?"
It seems some people found our media conference last July, where we outlined an ambitious new vision for the Vodafone NZ Warriors, quite controversial. Especially when we went on to drop eight straight games in a row.

Put your head above water in this country and it's inevitable someone will be looking to push it back down in the hope you'll drown in a sea of humiliation.

In some ways that's not such a bad thing because it does keep one focused, not only on the consequences of winning but also of losing.

I stand by what was said last year. A line has been drawn in the sand and the national dream of the Warriors winning the NRL premiership is something we are utterly committed to making a reality. Owning the Vodafone Warriors isn't business in the purest sense for me. The compelling reason is quite simply the desire to win the NRL premiership someday - it can't come too soon - and bring it to New Zealand, to take it away from the Australians.

Nothing would please me more.

The NRL is one of the world's toughest and most exciting competitions; it is comfortably the most exciting and even sporting competition throughout Australasia.

The Warriors are the biggest sporting franchise in this country and are a critical part of the competition, but that must never be enough.

The announcements last year were important in terms of a strategic mentality. We needed to show we'd mapped out where we saw ourselves heading - and it wasn't about maintaining what had become the norm.

A case can be made supporting the view the Warriors haven't done too badly, in fact a lot better than most clubs in the NRL. We've been to the grand final twice in the last 10 years - only Melbourne, Manly and the Roosters can better that - and we've reached the finals more than most, too.

It's still not good enough, though. Not acceptable for the owners, the board, management, the football department, staff, the players or all our loyal members and supporters.

What happened at the tail of last year is even less acceptable.

So with the season not far away, how are we placed? We're in very good hands with new coach Matt Elliott.
I'm told there's a belief Matt landed the job by default. That's an insult to all concerned, principally Matt. Yes, we did go close to agreeing a contract with one other person before he was hired. It was one of the league's so-called super coaches with a proven track record of success in the NRL. He would have put bums on seats and presumably have made us competitive instantly.

But he dithered. It allowed us to go with the man I felt had interviewed the best and had the best background and vision for the Warriors. He had impressed on every level imaginable, especially his whole-of-club vision. The other crowd-pleasing option may have given us a quick fix, but I was actually relieved it worked out the way it did. Above all Matt provides an asset the club hasn't had since start-up coach John Monie in 1995 - a coach with NRL experience.

Matt (who by the way has a diploma in education and a degree in sports science) has been even more impressive than I expected and has brought world class coaching colleagues with him, including Carl Jennings (ex-Crusaders, Bradford, Canberra) Andrew McFadden (ex-Canberra) and Brad Morris (ex-UFC fighter and high performance expert).

The talk finishes in a couple of weeks. There are some tough games early in the season, like our second-round match at Eden Park against the Roosters.

With Sir Owen Glenn's joint ownership involvement as well, we have a franchise that's walking the talk about putting the best resources in place, having spent more than $1.5m on upgrading our gym to the best NRL standards.

As inspirational US motivational speaker Zig Ziglar said, attitude, not aptitude, determines altitude. The Warriors are a club with that in spades.

Eric Watson will write occasionally for the Herald on Sunday.

Link at nzherald.co.nz

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At least he admits Matt Elliot wasn't our number 1 coaching target all along. I'd be interested in seeing him do regular columns actually, especially if the season starts to turn to shit. We hear a lot from Owen Glenn but not as much from Eric Watson. Better than listening to Scurrah regurgitate his usual palaver.
This article brings back some funny memories. Shit coach after shit coach since Ivan Cleary.

I believe in Jim Doyle and have been told his hands are tied because Eric Watson is pulling the purse strings in terms of the hiring and firing of coaches.

Think back right to the start of Watsons ownership. He has never spent money on a real coach. All rookies and one never has been. Daniel Anderson, Ivan Cleary, Brian McClennan, Tony Iro and Andrew McFadden have all been cheap rookies. Matt Elliott was a silver tongued charlatan who couldnt walk the walk and was probably also a cheap buy. Rumours of David Kidwell and even Ritchie Blackmore seem like EWs M.O.

Fuck having a go at the players, coach or CEO. Time to hold the real puppet master to account...

 
mrblonde

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Something should have been done about it.

Something was. Basically, from what I've read/heard, a combination of disapproval and approval. Board Member 1 would call Board Member 3 and say "Robson's wasting the club's cash, he hired a helicoptor to take 4 couples out for dinner at No 5! (ie some flash Auckland eatery)". Board Member 3 asks what's Board Member 1 going to do? "Um...Ah....See, the wife and I were one of those couples. Cracking food, too."
 
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jonno

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So cleary was on rookie wages here, Gus offered him overs and EW let him walk.
 
bruce

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Something was. Basically, from what I've read/heard, a combination of disapproval and approval. Board Member 1 would call Board Member 3 and say "Robson's wasting the club's cash, he hired a helicoptor to take 4 couples out for dinner at No 5! (ie some flash Auckland eatery)". Board Member 3 asks what's Board Member 1 going to do? "Um...Ah....See, the wife and I were one of those couples. Cracking food, too."
If I recall Dean Lonergan was the lone voice against the excess of Ian Robson. He had the rest sorted with free supporters gear. I cannot remember if Dean was on the original board but he was vocal in his dislike for John Monie and the need to get somebody with more recent form i.e. Tim Sheens.
 
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So cleary was on rookie wages here, Gus offered him overs and EW let him walk.
The Warriors would not extend his contract early. That was all he wanted. I don't think he wanted more money or anything, just a longer contract.
 
mt.wellington

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So cleary was on rookie wages here, Gus offered him overs and EW let him walk.
Cleary only got the gig by default. He had a clause in his contract that he would get a shot at the top job if the head coach was fired before Clearys term was up.

The rest is history...
 
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The Cheap Seats

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Cleary only got the gig by default. He had a clause in his contract that he would get a shot at the top job if the head coach was fired before Clearys term was up.

The rest is history...
Not sure I understand your post. Can you please explain?
 
Iafetas Kickstand Wang

Iafetas Kickstand Wang

Can only assume, remembering the conjecture on it at the time, the so called super coach was Craig Bellamy. Ha! Good work there Einstein Watson. You got the bum end of the deal there - I can safely surmise that that the abominable devastation that is the Warriors began the moment they let Ivan Cleary walk, it was furthered by the incredible ineptitutde of one Bluey McClennan a so called expert commentator now on Sky, and then furthered by a complete lack of incompetence in falling for the sweet blue eyed soul of interviews Mathew Elliott.
 

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