Internationals ENGLAND 2014 Four Nations Campaign

[mt.wellington]

Tomkins reverted to being a Ref heckler under Bentham.

He really looked like he was reliving his ESL Days telling Bentham to "Fook off "

Just shows how muted Sam is when playing NRL by comparison.

Wasting his time doing it here. No ref would understand a word he's saying...

 

[Sup42]

Wasting his time doing it here. No ref would understand a word he's saying...

He needs to complain more.
His clean slate act has seen our Fb position fiddled with in the tackle something awful this season ( not blaming anyone here, the opposition will do as much as they can get away with ).

 

[Stone]

Suicide is on the list as an acknowledgement that the NRL's responsibilities are not just to punish people....they have a duty of care to clean up the culture of the game.

This incident I couldn't care a less about. If this fellow had of signed an NRL contract then yes they can meddle.

They already have the power to suspend NZ players on their payroll, what's the diff ?

The Warriors are based in another country from the NRL.

Yep i can agree with that first part on the suicide thing, its just a very touchy subject for me as I've had a few family members & friends end their own lives for various different reasons & from my experience it's a hugely difficult subject to deal with in every aspect, any help/education the NRL could offer its players on the subject though would be very worth while IMO

As for the rest, well as far as I know (admittedly my info comes mainly from these forums) Hodgson has been linked to the Raiders but is yet to seal the deal Edit: just saw Mt Wellyz post

The Kiwis the NRL have suspended in the past all play in the NRL, as far as I know they've never suspended a player from the ESL (IMO the NZRL are complete bitches in this regard) & the Warriors are an NRL licensed franchise

As far as i can ascertain Hodgson's last contract was with Hull KR which is an ESL club, so again how does the NRL have jurisdiction ? Edit: as above but please read below lol

Please don't think I'm having a go at you bro, far from it, its more that I have a beef with the NRL's handling, or lack thereof, of International Rugby League & they're arrogant belief that they are the be all & end all of our great game, they have the power & more importantly the finances to grow International Rugby League but they don't, because IMO they're too xenophobic & all they really care about is the NRL Premiership, the Kangaroos domination & the jewel in their crown State of Origin

IMO if the NRL ever gets absolute full control over the NZRL & the ESL, then I truly believe International Rugby League will be euthanized quick smart

Edit: thanks for the info about the Nov 1st thing Mt Wellys, but I still have to ask, what jurisdiction do the NRL actually have in regards to International Rugby League players, sure as an NRL contracted player they could dish out fines, suspensions or even tear up his NRL contract, which IMO would be way OTT, but apart from that ?

Supreme Overlords Indeed ... rant over

 

[mt.wellington]

As for the rest, well as far as I know (admittedly my info comes mainly from these forums) Hodgson has been linked to the Raiders but is yet to seal the deal Edit: just saw Mt Wellyz post

Just adding a quote and link on my earlier post.

The biggest problem for Josh Hodgson is that he officially became an NRL player on November 1.

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/ru...dgson-faces-nrl-scrutiny-20141110-11jp9h.html

Will be spoken to by the Raiders CEO when he makes camp. Dont see this as the Raiders or NRL's problem. Happened under the England teams watch. They resolved the issue and should also impose their own penalty...

 

[Stone]

Had to laugh at that "another troubled soul" line Walter threw in there

Good googly moogly, if that's what they really gonna lump on Hodgson for that boofhead act then I would hate for them to be at my place when me & my bro's are getting on the large, they'd probably end up labeling us the bloody Devils Spawn

 

[mt.wellington]

Flatmates dont seem offended by it nor are they getting precious...

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[GazrethW]

I can understand Graham losing it. Just imagine being such a competitive guy with such a bad record in big matches. Between St Helens and the Bulldogs he's lost his last seven grand finals and in every big game England do the whole brave losers schtick. It's like Thurston losing it every time the Cowboys lose in the playoffs but Graham has had an even worse time.

 

[Lord Gnome of Howick MBE]

He needs to complain more.
His clean slate act has seen our Fb position fiddled with in the tackle something awful this season ( not blaming anyone here, the opposition will do as much as they can get away with ).

He's leant to catch so anything could happen

 

[Jay M]

Fixed that for you...

I can understand Graham losing it. Just imagine being such a dog, with a mongrel attitude and the love of biting people and sticking vaseline in their eyes (plus countless other dog acts).

 

[snake77]

Will be spoken to by the Raiders CEO when he makes camp. Dont see this as the Raiders or NRL's problem. Happened under the England teams watch. They resolved the issue and should also impose their own penalty...

Agree the Raiders maybe should have a word to him when he arrives especially with amount of media scrutiny on NRL players. The NRL sure he's technically an NRL player now but he hasn't arrived yet and it's being dealt with by the English team management. Any punishment by the NRL is punishing someone twice for the same offence which I'm not to much a fan of; it's different if it was a criminal offence and then the sport decides to fine and suspend him.

I was telling my wife about an incident I had at school; got in trouble away from class time and got sent to the vice principal. He punished me and that should of been the end of it, my form teacher found out and decided she wanted to punish me again. The issue had been dealt with but she decided she wanted to be seen as a disciplinarian. She really had no right to but hey shit you have to put up with as kids in school.

I believe the English side was around the next day with a new door. That's a good start to get the students back on side with their landlord and saving them the expense of replacing the door. If Hodgson is punished again by the English side there is no need for the NRL to punish him again.

 

[Ref]

FFS
Its a non event.
What will be in the news next.
Player A gets a parking ticket, doesn't give up his seat a on a bus/train to an old lady, is caught eating with his mouths open, is filmed jaywalking on a suburban street

 

[Wigan Warrior]

At least it deflects away from us failing again.

 

[mt.wellington]

At least it deflects away from us failing again.

So, time for Banana to get the sack???

 

[GazrethW]

So, time for Banana to get the sack???

That's a tough one. He has actually improved the performance of the team and made them much more competitive, but his actual win/loss record against Aus and NZ is dreadful. When things are going well he has the team playing an exciting brand of rugby. But I can't help but think some of his decisions are to blame for the results, for instance if he wasn't so stubborn about Danny Brough the team would probably have been able to close out both games and frankly only a moron would take Joel Tomkins at this stage of his return. If I was in charge and I thought there was a possibility of replacing him with Shaun Wane then I would but I don't think it's going to happen.

 

[snake77]

Next year will be interesting with a 3 test series. The last two games between England and NZ have been great; you guys will be a lot tougher at home.

 

[Lord Gnome of Howick MBE]

Next year will be interesting with a 3 test series. The last two games between England and NZ have been great; you guys will be a lot tougher at home.

Is there a four nations again next year or just a tour?

 

[DavidMcKay1974]

Isn't it a four nations because Scotland just qualified for it.

 

[snake77]

Pretty sure we have a 3 test series next year and there is no four nations as Australia decided to give their players a break.

I think Scotland qualified for the four nations the year after so 2016. I could be wrong and stand to be corrected but am pretty sure this is the case.

 

[GazrethW]

Pretty sure we have a 3 test series next year and there is no four nations as Australia decided to give their players a break.

I think Scotland qualified for the four nations the year after so 2016. I could be wrong and stand to be corrected but am pretty sure this is the case.

That is correct.

 

[mt.wellington]

Next year will be interesting with a 3 test series. The last two games between England and NZ have been great; you guys will be a lot tougher at home.

We have a terrible record in England against the Lions. We never seem to show up and the poms always grow an extra leg. Wont be easy but hopefully its a great series.

Would love the Kiwis to go over with a 30 man squad and do a proper tour. Play a few mid-week games against some of the ESL teams. Wont happen but would still love to see it. This is how you slowly grow the sport. Take it back to its real roots...