General Des Hasler

Mr Frank White

Mr Frank White

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Whatever we think of Ray Dib and the board the Canterbury Football Club/Leagues club are very successful. I'm sure they would have got some pretty sound legal advice before punting Des. I mean its not as though they would have been sitting around munching on a kebab and suddenly thought lets get rid of Des. Des will get a payout of some description the question is how much. You mentioned the potential issue of what coach would what want to go there, I would imagine the same would apply for decent players. ( Foran and Sharon not included)
I dont buy that at all. If you read the kennel posts they are now lining Dib up in their sights.

Sounds like a power struggle is taking place, and punting Des is just trying to shore up member support
 
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Crusader26

I wonder if we're going to see a straight swap...McGuire to the Bulldogs and Dez to the Rabbits.
The Bunnies would have to be an easier and smarter move for Hasler, which is why he needs to be given an offer he can't refuse if we want to drag him over the ditch.
The Rabbitohs already signed a new head coach.
 
jonno

jonno

Hasler brought in KPI's in a new way and got some advantage out of it.

But everyone does that now, so he's just a middle of the pack coach these days.
 
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Mr Bob

Mr Bob

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Foran chose Doggies because of Uncle Des.

Now what???

That club is in a bigger mess than we are.
 
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Pozza

Pozza

I dont buy that at all. If you read the kennel posts they are now lining Dib up in their sights.

Sounds like a power struggle is taking place, and punting Des is just trying to shore up member support
What don't you buy ?
 
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Swanley

Swanley

That's right, he would be lucky to get half from the settlement, and I mean lucky. The dumb arses are the dogs board. What decent coach is going to sign up with them knowing they refused to pay Hasler?
I disagree....most court cases are settled as a settlement figure and costs....so he'll end up with a fairly hefty chunk....it won't be on a no win no fee basis....
 
bruce

bruce

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I disagree....most court cases are settled as a settlement figure and costs....so he'll end up with a fairly hefty chunk....it won't be on a no win no fee basis....
I don't know how much experience you have with the law, but it is not that simple. Cases are settled for what the plaintiff will take compared with what the defendant will offer. The longer the plaintiff is prepared to wait, and the more he spends on the lawyers and the process, the more he MIGHT get, but he is unlikely to get what he wants quickly. This Dogs board will have trouble attracting a quality coach again IMO. they have just shagged their credit rating.
Was there a bit of history there ?
Lowe took the job as CEO at Manly to help them out. Hasler was the coach at the time. I cannot remember where it was published, but I recall Lowe had a lot of trouble with Hasler and his demands. Lowe quit the job after about 18 months citing health issues but I think he was sick of Hasler as well. I could never see Doyle working with a guy like Hasler, but stranger things have happened.
 
Tim burgess

Tim burgess

Hasler would be hard to work with because he demands the highest standards.

Remember him as a player. He was super fit and could play anywhere on the park. This level of perfection and drive has transcended to his coaching.
 
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bruce

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Hasler would be hard to work with because he demands the highest standards.

Remember him as a player. He was super fit and could play anywhere on the park. This level of perfection and drive has transcended to his coaching.
He was a fantastic player, even at international level.
 
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Pozza

Pozza

He was a fantastic player, even at international level.
Interesting he was the halfback at Penrith before Brandy Alexander. At the time I think the consensus was the Panthers couldn't hang on to both of them
 
Mr Bob

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To be honest i cant see hasler having chemistry with our polynesian boys.

He's too much of an Aussie hard nut.

I can see him getting the best out of Foran, Maners and even Shaun Johnson but Kata, Maumalo, Lisone or the even Luke... just cant see it....

I'd say the same with Toovey.

Their Characters are too volatile and cultural gap too big for our club...
 
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Generally Little

Generally Little

Their Characters are too volatile and cultural gap too big for our club...

That sounds like all the ingredients we need for our "culture change"! Whether it be good or bad, we would definitely have vastly different season with Hasler involved compared to the shit we have had the past 6 years.
 
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Swanley

Swanley

I don't know how much experience you have with the law, but it is not that simple. Cases are settled for what the plaintiff will take compared with what the defendant will offer. The longer the plaintiff is prepared to wait, and the more he spends on the lawyers and the process, the more he MIGHT get, but he is unlikely to get what he wants quickly. This Dogs board will have trouble attracting a quality coach again IMO. they have just shagged their credit rating.
It depends on what he sues for....Generally people sue for what they are entitled to and costs. You look at most court cases and they will say plaintiff/defendant is awarded xyz and costs....

If an organisation is involved in a court case it will have to pay its lawyer's costs and disbursements/expenses. Depending on the outcome of the case a proportion of the costs and disbursements payable to the lawyers may be recoverable from the opponent.

Recovery of costs if you win

Other than in 'small claims' cases, the losing party in court proceedings will normally be ordered to pay costs.

Except in limited circumstances where only fixed costs are awarded, the court or an arbitrator has full discretion to decide which party should pay costs to an opponent and as to the amount of costs payable. Factors which may be taken into account in that decision include:

  • In court proceedings the 'track' the case has been allocated to - this will principally depend on the value of the claim and could be small claims, fast track or multi-track;
  • all the circumstances of the case, including matters such as:
  • the conduct of the parties before and during the course of the proceedings - including whether it was reasonable for a party to raise, pursue or contest a particular issue, the manner in which a party has pursued or defended a claim and whether or not a party exaggerated its claim;
  • whether a party has succeeded on part or all of its case;
  • offers to settle made by either party;
  • a party's refusal to mediate or to attempt to settle the case.
  • whether the amount of costs claimed is proportionate, and has been reasonably incurred;
  • the complexity of the case, specialised knowledge involved, time spent and other facts relevant to the amount of work undertaken;
 
bruce

bruce

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It depends on what he sues for....Generally people sue for what they are entitled to and costs. You look at most court cases and they will say plaintiff/defendant is awarded xyz and costs....
Australia might be a little different to NZ so I don't know about there. Here the aim of the courts is to get settlement without a trial so they bounce around mediation hearings seeing who will get sick of it first. Right and wrongs of the case have very little to do with it in New Zealand, the side with the deepest pockets is usually in the strongest position because paying lawyers to write letters is frustrating and expensive.
To be honest i cant see hasler having chemistry with our polynesian boys.

He's too much of an Aussie hard nut.

I can see him getting the best out of Foran, Maners and even Shaun Johnson but Kata, Maumalo, Lisone or the even Luke... just cant see it....

I'd say the same with Toovey.

Their Characters are too volatile and cultural gap too big for our club...
That is why the Crusaders rugby franchise have a set quota of Polynesian players, apparently, they have always denied it though.
 

stacky18

Hasler is a great coach.
5 grand finals in the past 11 years.
2nd best coach in the league.
He's managed to get the best out of plenty of kiwi players. He would be fine at our club. But he won't come, we'll stick with SK.
He'll get another job somewhere else. He's a tireless worker who made the tough decision to let Reynolds leave and forced Graham out, which upset the fan base.
He tried to change the Dogs culture, which faced opposition once his CEO was pushed out and he lost his ally in the club.
 
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