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Factions on Manly board leaving players with a club that's crumbling around them, Laurie Daley says
By Sam Bruce FOX SPORTS November 09, 2011 12:45PM


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Major players ... Foran (L) and Hasler are at the centre of Manly's troubles. Source: News Limited
Des Hasler's untenable reign as coach is dividing the Manly board and leaving the players with a club "crumbling around them", Fox Sports commentator Laurie Daley says.

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The Sea Eagles board are set to meet on Wednesday night where Hasler's future as coach will reportedly be discussed.

Hasler has already signed with Canterbury-Bankstown for 2013 and while the players are keen to have him at the helm next season, there appears to be a growing push from the board to remove him to restore lost stability at Brookvale Oval.

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The regrettable situation at Manly, who were crowned NRL premiers just months ago, has festered since Hasler announced his future barely days after the grand final, plunging them into a period of awkward uncertainty and in-fighting.

"The players know Des is going but they want to have one last year under him," Daley told foxsports.com.au.



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"If they make that tough decision (to sack Hasler) the players will be upset and there could be more bloodshed in terms of friction between the board, the outgoing coach and the players."

"They've lost a lot of staff members and the players probably feel as though the club is crumbling around them."

The factional problems at Manly revolve around the ownership of the club, while Sea Eagles legend Peter Peters is set to run for a spot on the board only months after he was dumped as the team’s media manager.

And, as if things weren't already uncomfortable enough, recruitment manager Noel Cleal and assistant coach Kelly Egan will also join Hasler at the Bulldogs in 2013.

And Daley believes that while there’s such unrest, the Sea Eagles will be a rabble at a time when they should be planning a premiership defence.

"While ever they’ve got that structure in terms of ownership they're always going to have problems," he said.

"There are factions on that board and it’s causing disruptions in the organisation.

"While ever you're a fractured group you’re not going to be pulling in the same direction and you're not going to get the results your after."

While the decisions of Hasler's assistants stung, it’s the speculation surrounding the future of boom youngster Kieran Foran that’s of biggest concern to the Sea Eagles.

Hasler enjoys a strong relationship with Foran and the Kiwi five-eighth could well follow him to the Bulldogs in 2013 thanks to a get-out clause in his contract.

While admitting the loss of Foran would be huge, Daley wasn’t prepared to say the Sea Eagles would become one of NRL’s also-rans.

"Obviously they were talking about building a future around Kieran Foran and (Daly) Cherry-Evans, and players like Foran don’t come along that often.

"But that’s Manly decision because they put that in his contract, I don't know who did the deal on behalf of Manly but they’ve got to live with those consequences now.

"Obviously with that contract and Des is now moving on, they've got to live with it. It may set them back, it may not."

just saw this on fox sports news on tv. Apparently the board is meeting right now to discuss Des' future. Interesting to read Foran might head to the 'Dogs.

From https://www.foxsports.com.au/league...aurie-daley-says/story-fn2mcuj6-1226190084582
 

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I quite like the Doggies, their forward pack especially. I would have liked to seen DCE and Foran grow together for a bit more, but it's always interesting seeing marquee players shifting clubs.
 

AC5_old

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A bit more on it from https://www.foxsports.com.au/league...-reports-suggest/story-fn2mcuj6-1226189471858

Des Hasler could be sacked as early as Wednesday night amid news that superstar five-eighth Kieran Foran is the next Manly Sea Eagles player poised to defect to Canterbury-Bankstown.

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The Bulldogs will target Foran for 2013 - the same season current Canterbury five-eighth Kris Keating comes off contract.

And it can also be revealed that Foran's family want him to play his entire career under Hasler. Foran has a get-out clause at Manly should Hasler leave but intends to remain at Brookvale next season before deciding his long-term future.

But it's understood that the board could end Hasler's contract at a meeting on Wednesday.



Hasler and incoming coach Geoff Toovey are thought to have fallen out over Foran's possible move to the Bulldogs.

Board members are also furious that Hasler has banned them from travelling with and staying in the team hotel for next year's World Club Challenge in the UK.

The Bulldogs have already held top-level internal discussions about Foran. With additional money through the NRL broadcasting deal in 2013, Canterbury will spend $1.8 million on him.

It's the latest blow to the premiers, who have already lost several staff members, including scouting director Noel Cleal.

In more bad news for the club yesterday, rising forward Darcy Lussick has been linked to several clubs, including Parramatta Eels, while expert video analyst Will Badel, a key contributor in Manly's premiership win and also used by Ricky Stuart in State of Origin this year, appears ready to leave Manly.

Even if sacked by Manly before the start of next season, it's unlikely Hasler would coach Canterbury in 2012.
Hasler would allow Jim Dymock to coach but shift to Belmore in a consultancy and advisory role before taking over the top job in 2013.

There were also rumours yesterday that Brett Stewart, who also has a get-out clause, could leave Manly but Canterbury has not discussed the former Test fullback.
 

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Yea, sounds like quite a few players & staff are very loyal to Des over the club or anything else. Which is understandable. Seems the dogs will be looking sharp come 2013 at the latest.
 

Spence_old

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Such a shame for Manly fans. I thought they were onto something good for the next 4-5 years.
 

AC5_old

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Mmm... I guess it depends whether the board manages to sort it's ish out early enough so the players don't get caught up in it. Might be too late though by the sounds of it. O well only helps the Warriors gain their title next year.
 

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With Brett Stuart, which club do you think would actually make a bid for him? sure, he's great and all but at least half of the clubs already have a fullback who's either better or slightly worse then Brett.
In no particular order these fellows come to mind.

Storm= Slater
Warriors= Locke
Eels= Hayne/Burt (don't know who Kearny would pick)
Cowboys= Bowen
Raiders= Dugan
Bulldogs= Baba black sheep have you any wool
Roosters= Mini (arguable)
Knights= Boyd

The level of fullbacks is looking extremely good these years.
 

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That board is a cancer. They've absolutely destroyed what could have been a dynasty for Manly....

Bulldogs are scum too, but to a lesser degree then the Manly board. They should be playing in Moron for their next strip if Foran and/or the Stewarts end up there in addition to Des, Cleal and the other Manly staff that they've poached.
 

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Roosters might make a play for the Stewarts (assuming they want to stay together). Titans and Tigpies might look at them too?

It sounds like that board is beyond the point of no return now, with a. Huge split between Hasler supporters (most of whom are leaving) and detractors (who sound like douches).
 

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DES Hasler has been stood down by the Sea Eagles tonight over alleged serious breaches to his contract.

Hasler had intended to coach Manly for the 2012 season, despite signing with the Canterbury Bulldogs from 2013.

But a succession of defections from Brookvale to Belmore prompted Manly officials to stand down Hasler for allegedly inducing players to break their contracts.

He will be given a breach notice and given a chance to defend himself before the Manly board.

The Daily Telegraph revealed this morning that the Manly board would meet today to discuss Hasler’s future at the club.

Board members were locked in tense negotiations for more than six hours discussing Hasler's future.

Since Hasler shocked the NRL by announcing his defection to the Bulldogs, Manly’s recruitment manager Noel Cleal and video analyst Will Badel have signed with Canterbury.

The Bulldogs are also favoured to snare the signature of Sea Eagles’ superstar five-eighth Kieran Foran, who is poised to exercise a get-out clause when Hasler leaves the peninsula.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...coach-des-hasler/story-e6frexnr-1226190580262
 
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Jesbass_old

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Wow, quite an allegation. They're basically saying he was actively working against Manly's interests while on their payroll.
 

ToiletDuck_old

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Well as Daley has said...someone obviously gave the nod for Foran to tie himself to Hasler, and now they have to live with it. But yes quite the allegation(s)...
 

2big2strong_old

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The rumour currently circulating through online media outlets is that current manly players have actually reported to the board that Hasler has been actively trying to talk players into breaking their contracts and following him to Belmore. This was what his breach notice Is for.
 

Beetle_old

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Couldn't have happened to a better team. The whole Manly vs the world attitude and then to implode from within :lol.
Dogs v Manly games are going to be interesting.
 

fanrrior_old

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The rumour currently circulating through online media outlets is that current manly players have actually reported to the board that Hasler has been actively trying to talk players into breaking their contracts and following him to Belmore. This was what his breach notice Is for.

Thats not good (for them) now there's going to be a lot of mistrust in the team. I kinda feel sorry for the fans who aren't total pricks though.
 

a.c.e_old

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just heard on the radio that it was a 7hr meeting before the announcement to sack Des.

The 2011 title was thee poisonous chalice for Manly.
 

Fazz_old

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Maaan if 2011's title was this poisonous, I'm happy our dynasty is kicking off in 2012 ;)
 

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