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gREVUS

Long live the Rainbows and Butterflies
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May 8, 2012
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The debate on NRL 360 was that just releasing Segeyaro wouldn't be enough. They Sharks always seem to get off lightly.

The ASADA investigation of rife doping among the NRL clubs ended up really only being the Sharks. A program to use peptides ended up with a two week suspension with the rest backdated over the years they were playing.

Self report a $50k salary cap issue ends up being cheating over multiple years. Paul Kent stating on NRL 360 they made a separate company for TPA's. Get off pretty lightly in terms of fines, no competition points lost and the extent of disrupting their playing roster is losing a dummy half they re-signed within the last few weeks who wouldn't of been on huge money considering he was serving coffee a few weeks ago.
you missed the bit where they also seem to get the benefit of the doubt on the field as well. You know missing forward passes, ignoring dirty play. etc
 

snake77

Warriors 1st Grader
Jul 12, 2013
9,956
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The contracting system makes me shake my head in disbelief sometimes.

On NRL 360 tonight they were talking about Valentine Holmes and his chances in the NFL. He's back at the moment and was at the Sharks training. Then the comment was made the Sharks are waiting to hear from the Cowboys. If the Cowboys want him they will need to pay a release probably $250,000.

I can understand that he was under contract when he left. But the Sharks rushed off to sign Johnson. It's not like they have the cap space to fit him in if he does come back.

It would make more sense getting a fee from the Cowboys if he came back and the Sharks left the cap space for him but he didn't want to return to the Sharks and tried to move to the Cowboys.
 
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gREVUS

Long live the Rainbows and Butterflies
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May 8, 2012
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The contracting system makes me shake my head in disbelief sometimes.

On NRL 360 tonight they were talking about Valentine Holmes and his chances in the NFL. He's back at the moment and was at the Sharks training. Then the comment was made the Sharks are waiting to hear from the Cowboys. If the Cowboys want him they will need to pay a release probably $250,000.

I can understand that he was under contract when he left. But the Sharks rushed off to sign Johnson. It's not like they have the cap space to fit him in if he does come back.

It would make more sense getting a fee from the Cowboys if he came back and the Sharks left the cap space for him but he didn't want to return to the Sharks and tried to move to the Cowboys.
so given how short a time frame his away was, was it just a ploy to get out of the sharks?
 

Miket12

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Apr 20, 2012
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The contracting system makes me shake my head in disbelief sometimes.

On NRL 360 tonight they were talking about Valentine Holmes and his chances in the NFL. He's back at the moment and was at the Sharks training. Then the comment was made the Sharks are waiting to hear from the Cowboys. If the Cowboys want him they will need to pay a release probably $250,000.

I can understand that he was under contract when he left. But the Sharks rushed off to sign Johnson. It's not like they have the cap space to fit him in if he does come back.

It would make more sense getting a fee from the Cowboys if he came back and the Sharks left the cap space for him but he didn't want to return to the Sharks and tried to move to the Cowboys.
Nrl.com are reporting Holmes has been offered a contract with the NY Jets.

 

wizards rage

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Apr 18, 2016
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Tauranga
I see the Sharks have managed to shuffle out a reserve player and get Segeyaro back into their squad... after he had still been training with the Sharks the whole time.

Seems their squad has really been hammered for years of deliberate cheating... :rolleyes:
 

playdaball

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Apr 23, 2012
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I see the Sharks have managed to shuffle out a reserve player and get Segeyaro back into their squad... after he had still been training with the Sharks the whole time.

Seems their squad has really been hammered for years of deliberate cheating... :rolleyes:

Ava off to Leeds & Merrin back to St George . Ava could be playing 2nd division in England next year with the wat that Leeds are going. He could have been a good pick up for the Warriors.
 
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Paleaaesina2the20

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Feb 6, 2013
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Ava off to Leeds & Merrin back to St George . Ava could be playing 2nd division in England next year with the wat that Leeds are going. He could have been a good pick up for the Warriors.
Ava is a mate of a mate, he was around in the early days of the U20s and a lot of his mates were in the Warriors U20 system and a few were out of Wellington like he was. Long story short, a lot of those guys didn't like the treatment they got at the Warriors during their time for the U20s. To the extent that I know a couple of guys who played for the Warriors U20s in the early days, never made it to the NRL or played for any other club, but don't support the Warriors in the NRL, they support other teams, but were Warriors fans as kids...
 

BeastMode

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Mar 7, 2015
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Ava is a mate of a mate, he was around in the early days of the U20s and a lot of his mates were in the Warriors U20 system and a few were out of Wellington like he was. Long story short, a lot of those guys didn't like the treatment they got at the Warriors during their time for the U20s. To the extent that I know a couple of guys who played for the Warriors U20s in the early days, never made it to the NRL or played for any other club, but don't support the Warriors in the NRL, they support other teams, but were Warriors fans as kids...

Didn’t like the way they were treated?

Who’s at fault here? players for their ego or the club for not stroking it?
 

Paleaaesina2the20

1st Grade Fringe
Feb 6, 2013
1,590
Melbourne
Didn’t like the way they were treated?

Who’s at fault here? players for their ego or the club for not stroking it?
Ego stroking? I'm talking about early days U20s, remember we are talking about teenage kids who aren't getting paid squat but have to move cities to play, get no assistance or support, poor communication protocols etc. Big adjustment and a lot of work back in those days, and to be fair to the organisation I don't think anyone had appreciated how difficult that was going to be to try and organise that U20s team, I am not surprised it was a total shit show, it is actually astounding how successful the U20 Warriors teams were. The whole thing was a logistical nightmare, I don't personally put too much blame on the organisation, but obviously some of the players did...
 
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jonno

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Jul 13, 2014
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Ego stroking? I'm talking about early days U20s, remember we are talking about teenage kids who aren't getting paid squat but have to move cities to play, get no assistance or support, poor communication protocols etc. Big adjustment and a lot of work back in those days, and to be fair to the organisation I don't think anyone had appreciated how difficult that was going to be to try and organise that U20s team, I am not surprised it was a total shit show, it is actually astounding how successful the U20 Warriors teams were. The whole thing was a logistical nightmare, I don't personally put too much blame on the organisation, but obviously some of the players did...
I reckon that u20s team was successful because it was so hard for them.

Anyone who's still sulking about it isn't needed around here.
 
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mt.wellington

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Jun 21, 2012
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Mt. Wellington, Auckland
Ava is a mate of a mate, he was around in the early days of the U20s and a lot of his mates were in the Warriors U20 system and a few were out of Wellington like he was. Long story short, a lot of those guys didn't like the treatment they got at the Warriors during their time for the U20s. To the extent that I know a couple of guys who played for the Warriors U20s in the early days, never made it to the NRL or played for any other club, but don't support the Warriors in the NRL, they support other teams, but were Warriors fans as kids...
Only the very best from out of town were given proper support. Housing, jobs or a contract. Players like Ben Matulino and Russell Packer. The rest had to fend for themselves. It really hasn't changed that much these days except out of town kids can stay at the Warriors house instead of other players pads...
 

wizards rage

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Apr 18, 2016
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Tauranga
Ava is a mate of a mate, he was around in the early days of the U20s and a lot of his mates were in the Warriors U20 system and a few were out of Wellington like he was. Long story short, a lot of those guys didn't like the treatment they got at the Warriors during their time for the U20s. To the extent that I know a couple of guys who played for the Warriors U20s in the early days, never made it to the NRL or played for any other club, but don't support the Warriors in the NRL, they support other teams, but were Warriors fans as kids...
It’s a tough road getting to first grade. Lots of young guys come close but don’t quite make it. Lots of pressure to succeed. Lots of anger when they realise it’s not going to be them.

They can blame the Warriors but every NRL club would be the same, where only a lucky few make it and dozens every year have their dreams crushed.
 

bruce

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Only the very best from out of town were given proper support. Housing, jobs or a contract. Players like Ben Matulino and Russell Packer. The rest had to fend for themselves. It really hasn't changed that much these days except out of town kids can stay at the Warriors house instead of other players pads...
Juniors at the Storm get treated pretty hard from what I hear as well. To be honest I think some of these kids don't now what hard is. Back last century I played with Polynesian players who used to work a full day in the meat works or factorys of South Auckland, then get into town for training and if they were lucky grabbing a pie on the way. They didn't complain.
 
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