NRL Teams Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks

[Pozza]

ON NRL 360 last night Kenty actually came out and said the year they won the comp they cheated. He was asked to explain how. He did give an explanation. I didn't get what he was on about. Did anyone get a handle on his explanation ?

 

[snake77]

ON NRL 360 last night Kenty actually came out and said the year they won the comp they cheated. He was asked to explain how. He did give an explanation. I didn't get what he was on about. Did anyone get a handle on his explanation ?

That was weird. He said they cheated that year but the day they won they were under which he tried to explain about some payments. Maybe they were lucky the automatic payment went through 10 days later. I was expecting him to say well the 17 that took the field were under.

Surely if they cheated that year they cheated. The investigation didn't start until 2018 so how can they argue about their roster being fair on Grand Final day? Sound convenient to me.

 

[Defence]

ON NRL 360 last night Kenty actually came out and said the year they won the comp they cheated. He was asked to explain how. He did give an explanation. I didn't get what he was on about. Did anyone get a handle on his explanation ?

The nrl specifically said they were under the cap when they won it- apparently they were over at the start of the year but had it sorted by the time the final was played.
Still a wrought.

 

[gREVUS]

The nrl specifically said they were under the cap when they won it- apparently they were over at the start of the year but had it sorted by the time the final was played.
Still a wrought.

a bit like how they took drugs the year before, but it didnt affect their performance in the following year. to quote the Tuis ad, Yea Right

 

[bruce]

Hypothetically, if you were married for 10 years and expecting 10 more but your wife tells you you’re no longer part of her future plans. How would you feel?

Cause and reaction.

It’s all your wife’s fault.

I don't know, I am not a petulant female

 

[Pozza]

The nrl specifically said they were under the cap when they won it- apparently they were over at the start of the year but had it sorted by the time the final was played.
Still a wrought.

How can you be over the cap the year before, and the year after you won the comp, but the year you won it, be compliant ?

 

[matiunz]

Bro, let’s be fair, he committed 10 yrs to the club. I wouldn’t call that impulsive.

Leaving a year before your contract is up and before you had a serious discussion with the club about a point that had pissed you off is exactly what I’d call impulsive

 

[Blain]

The NRL is so soft IMO. Salary Cap fraud should result in points reductions, be so harsh no clubs would dear try. The penalties are obviously not high enough. Don't get me started on the Roosters, clearly display you can cheat the cap if you have enough money and friends in high places.

Time for public release of salaries.

 

[Beastmode]

I don't know, I am not a petulant female

Pertulant male?

 

[Lance155]

The NRL is so soft IMO. Salary Cap fraud should result in points reductions, be so harsh no clubs would dear try. The penalties are obviously not high enough. Don't get me started on the Roosters, clearly display you can cheat the cap if you have enough money and friends in high places.

Time for public release of salaries.

I was looking at predicted team lists on nrl.com today and how can anyone look at the Roosters team and think that is legit. Then look at the Dogs and Titans and they hardly have 1 star player. It is just stupid

 

[Lance155]

Correct me if I am wrong but there is still a cap on tpa's right? So no matter how rich you are you still only have x to spend???

 

[Miket12]

I was looking at predicted team lists on nrl.com today and how can anyone look at the Roosters team and think that is legit. Then look at the Dogs and Titans and they hardly have 1 star player. It is just stupid

Correct me if I am wrong but there is still a cap on tpa's right? So no matter how rich you are you still only have x to spend???

There is no cap on TPA's and, surprisingly, the Roosters are only supposed to have the same as we did in place - around 200K. The highest were the Storm at over 1 mil. while the Broncos have just under 800K followed by the Cowboys with over 300K. These are taken from the article below from the NRL at the end of last season.

NRL makes third-party agreements public

In a historic move, the NRL has made public the total value of each club's third-party agreements in a move it says will improve transparency and integrity of the code's contract process while dispelling misconceptions about how much clubs are relying on TPAs.

www.nrl.com

For those not wanting to read the whole article, here's the table that was in it:

 

[Otto Sump]

Hypothetically, if you were married for 10 years and expecting 10 more but your wife tells you you’re no longer part of her future plans. How would you feel?

Cause and reaction.

It’s all your wife’s fault.

In this hypothetical situation if you had told her a year ago that you might just play the field for a bit on the off chance a young Australian model might be interested. You'd have every right to be fucked off when she said you were no longer part of her future plans but would you be completely surprised?

Cause and reaction?

 

[Wellington Warrior]

It’s official...the Sharks have cheated again and got away with it.... and the NRL will do nothing about it!!!!

Cronulla’s salary cap fine will cost them livewire hooker James Segeyaro
MARCH 09, 2019).

Cronulla’s salary cap fine will cost them James Segeyaro with the former Dally M hooker of the year’s contract set to be formally rejected by the NRL.

The elimination of Segeyaro from the Sharks top-30 roster is a hammer blow on the eve of the 2019 season - yet ultimately it will enable the club to be salary cap compliant for their round one clash with Newcastle in just five days.
Cronulla management have spent the past 10-days working around-the-clock to re-jig their roster after being forced to remove $353,000 from their salary cap as punishment for past-breaches by the NRL.
The paperwork on Cronulla’s cap compliance between the Sharks and NRL salary cap auditors is expected to be rubber-stamped Monday.
Under-rated Sharks forward Ava Seumanafagi was originally earmarked as the fall-guy from Cronulla’s cap drama with the Wests Tigers showing late interest in bringing the hard-running forward back to the club with whom he made his NRL debut.

Segeyaro will once again become a free agent. Picture by Zak Simmonds.
However, with precious little time to work with before team’s are named on Tuesday, the Sharks and Tigers were unable to strike a deal.
The $353,000 penalty has left the Sharks forced to lose a major key to their 2019 fortunes in Segeyaro, while also burning $160,000 in unspent cap space.
Cronulla now only have two NRL-ready hookers at the club in the Brailey brothers, Jayden and Blayke - who is yet to make his NRL debut.
To meet the NRL’s requirements, the Sharks have also recouped $50,000 which had originally been prepaid to an unnamed player.
That $50,000 will go into the Sharks 2020 salary cap, while on top of Segeyaro, the club must lose another player before June 30.
Segeyaro, who was without a contract until the Sharks signed him only a fortnight ago, had made no secret of his willingness to play only with Cronulla.
He had received interest from Newcastle and Parramatta prior to signing with the Sharks.
The Eels have since solved their lack of depth at dummy-half by signing Matt McIllwrick from Souths.

McIlwrick will join Parramatta immediately. Photo by Matt King/Getty Images.
“Even though the Knights and Eels recruited well, I felt Cronulla with what I know about the club, that premiership pursuit would give my best chance here,’’ Segeyaro told The Telegraph last month.
“If it was for free, I’d still want to be right where I am today.
“When it comes down to it, to wake up every day, it’s a blessing and privilege to even pull on the jersey and be part of this squad.’’
Despite the likelihood of Segeyaro becoming a free agent by tomorrow, there is a possibility he could sign a NSWRL contract with Sharks feeder-club the Newtown Jets in the hope that he could return to Cronulla’s top-30 roster once the club loses another player, or the club frees up cap space during the season.
Sharks CEO Barry Russell confirmed the club were hopeful of confirming their cap-compliance for round one by Monday.
“We’re working non-stop over this weekend with our salary cap auditor Jamie L’Oste Brown and the NRL’s salary cap auditor to reach an outcome that shows we’ll be cap compliant for round one,’’ Russell said.

Inglis is no certainty to play in Round 1. Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images.
“I’m extremely confident that will happen.’’
Cronulla aren’t alone in their manic end to an unforgiving pre-season with 56 players across the NRL under injury-clouds prior to this week’s season-opener.
A host of the game’s biggest names are in doubt with fitness tests over the next 48-hours set to determine the availability of South Sydney’s Greg Inglis (knee), Brisbane’s Anthony Milford (hamstring), Penrith’s Dallin Watene-Zelezniak, Parramatta’s Junior Paulo (hamstring), New Zealand’s Adam Blair (hamstring) and the Gold Coast’s Ryan James (knee).
Yet without doubt one of the hardest hit has been Manly coach Des Hasler, who will be without NSW Origin star Tom Trbojevic (hamstring) and Dylan Walker (no-fault stand down) for their first-up clash with the Wests Tigers at Leichhardt Oval on Saturday.
Brendan Eliott is the frontrunner to replace Trbojevic at fullback while Brad Parker has trained as Walker’s cover at centre.
“It’s not the best of starts, but other players will step up and take their place.” Hasler said.

 

[Mr Frank White]

What a fkn joke..

 

[matiunz]

My biggest bugbear is that even though they eventually became cap compliant this year and their premiership year they still cheated to be in a position to assemble the teams they have. Had they played within the rules they wouldn’t have been in a position to sign players and then ‘sort it out later’. They’ve gotta be docked points to discourage the practice otherwise teams are happy to run the risk for success knowing it will be a slap on the wrist even if they do get caught. How many chances do the Sharks get to take the piss?

 

[bruce]

They’ve gotta be docked points to discourage the practice otherwise teams are happy to run the risk for success knowing it will be a slap on the wrist even if they do get caught.

The NRL360 team have been saying this like a broken record as far back as I can remember. With a twit like Beattie in charge of the NRL what can one expect, honestly?

 

[gREVUS]

so to make sure that Shaun Johnson didnt get cut from the team, they hired segeyaro with no intent of him ever playing. Just to get round the rules and have Shaun Johnson as, not, the man most recently hired and therefore the mandatory expulsion.

whats the bet segeyaro was told up front and paid for his services for his 5 days of team membership. where was he before, playing barista as the unwanted man. I guess a team of cheats has to cheat.

 

[snake77]

The debate on NRL 360 was that just releasing Segeyaro wouldn't be enough. They Sharks always seem to get off lightly.

The ASADA investigation of rife doping among the NRL clubs ended up really only being the Sharks. A program to use peptides ended up with a two week suspension with the rest backdated over the years they were playing.

Self report a $50k salary cap issue ends up being cheating over multiple years. Paul Kent stating on NRL 360 they made a separate company for TPA's. Get off pretty lightly in terms of fines, no competition points lost and the extent of disrupting their playing roster is losing a dummy half they re-signed within the last few weeks who wouldn't of been on huge money considering he was serving coffee a few weeks ago.

 

[Gizzyfan]

The debate on NRL 360 was that just releasing Segeyaro wouldn't be enough. They Sharks always seem to get off lightly.

The ASADA investigation of rife doping among the NRL clubs ended up really only being the Sharks. A program to use peptides ended up with a two week suspension with the rest backdated over the years they were playing.

Self report a $50k salary cap issue ends up being cheating over multiple years. Paul Kent stating on NRL 360 they made a separate company for TPA's. Get off pretty lightly in terms of fines, no competition points lost and the extent of disrupting their playing roster is losing a dummy half they re-signed within the last few weeks who wouldn't of been on huge money considering he was serving coffee a few weeks ago.

The other major part of that investigation wss irregular patterns in betting. I note nothing was done about that.