Staff Coaching Candidates 2022/23

[Stalefish540]

We've had to make big calls on coaches before. I remember Matthew Ridge saying no one at the Warriors had heard of Daniel Anderson when his application turned up. Ridge had to call Bob Fulton to find out who he was. That's how desperate we were then

I'm ok with our new coach. He has been in the game for a while. He knows about living in NZ and also what the travel demands are. He's also seen success and failure at clubs.

What does concern me is the way this has gone down, because I'm starting to see a pattern. Last time we were in turmoil we had some quick signings to give us new hope for the next season. And the outcome was terrible. This time the signings seem better.

But if in another 18 months we are in turmoil again, I don't want to see a repeat of this as the answer. Because i will know that it wont work. Ideally they need to fix the cause(s) of the turmoil now. But I see nothing that leads me to believe that will happen.

The only way out of this rut is development pathways locally, but that involves investment and then lots of patience.

The investment for the AusRL pathways and systems comes from the broadcast deal with the NRL, something we will just never get a bite of. Not really sure what the answer is there.

Gus Gould + a billionaire RL loving investor would have done the trick.

 

[Dixpat]

Also Robo is based in the GC.. So would expect him to be around less and rely on others more.

As I understand it Robo and family are based in Australia so that son can go to a top school so that he (son) can develop a network of “well to do“ families which may assist Autex in Australia in future years when son is involved in company

 

[kos]

Also Robo is based in the GC.. So would expect him to be around less and rely on others more.

That’s something I don’t get. Mohawk is on the Gc where I am. But Autex and the Warriors are in Auckland.
I find hard it enough to keep in touch with family in Nz. And Mohawk has a cash generating (Autex)and a cash draining business (Warriors) (last couple of years) to look after. But he is on the Gc and those businesses are in Auckland.

 

[kos]

As I understand it Robo and family are based in Australia so that son can go to a top school so that he (son) can develop a network of “well to do“ families which may assist Autex in Australia in future years when son is involved in company

The ‘best’ school on the G C is The Southport School but Brisbane private schools are probably where more wealthy connected kids go.

 

[matiunz]

Kinda off topic but I know of plenty of kiwi mates that have moved to Aussie, is it the same the other way around? I.e Aussies moving to NZ for certain reasons (obviously won't be economic reasons lol).
I very very rarely come across anyone from Australia living in NZ so I assume not.

Edit: Reason I ask is I've seen these rankings pop up every few years where Auckland is ranked quite high in best city to live in lists yet posters on here (some who I assume have moved to oz) make it sound like it's a massive downgrade.

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Genuine question as I haven't even visited Australia despite living in NZ for 30 years. Pretty sad I know lol.

Just personal preference, the longer I live in Aus the more I like it, have thought about moving back to NZ a few times but when you do the pros and cons it’s a pretty quick and easy decision to stay here. Do find each time I go back to NZ I feel a little less connected to it and tend to see more cracks appear, have other family overseas in other countries and it’s a common theme with them also. Can understand it being a tough sell if you aren’t from there-not an attack on NZ just my experience. Even moving to Perth from the eastern states is a tough sell to non native WAs

If i was an nrl player being asked to rank location preference it’d probably go
Sydney- least travel and great city/lifestyle plenty of club options
Brisbane- great lifestyle plus multiple club options (including gc)
Melbourne
Auckland- would be more desirable if club wasn’t based in mt smart
Canberra
Newcastle
Townsville * haven’t been there but it is comparatively remote

 

[Fonzie]

Without Robinson cash they may not be a club. The return to NZ will change things for the better in all facets of the club.

If Robinson went bankrupt tomorrow there would still be a Warriors club in some form. The NZ tv money is so big the nrl would fund and run it themselves if they had to. While Robinson has no doubt made a great personal contribution, we shouldn’t feel it’s him or nothing. The fans and public interest guarantee that Auckland will always have an NRL club.

 

[jsmooove]

If Robinson went bankrupt tomorrow there would still be a Warriors club in some form. The NZ tv money is so big the nrl would fund and run it themselves if they had to. While Robinson has no doubt made a great personal contribution, we shouldn’t feel it’s him or nothing. The fans and public interest guarantee that Auckland will always have an NRL club.

this is what people not only on this forum but warriors fans on social media need to understand. a NZ franchise/s is overly important for the NRL. there is a chance the warriors may fold but that franchise license would go somewhere else in NZ if it wasn't to remain in Auckland. the NRL which probably comes from Vlandys truly believe with time they can be bigger than the All Blacks in NZ. im fairly certain if Robo wanted to sell the warriors there would be a buyers lined up pretty quickly..... the price he wants to sell at on the other hand is another thing

 

[Deano]

Fonz shouted out Ben Gardiner? Kiwis assistant and assistant to madge at the tigers?

That sounds good. Also, I meant Justin Morgan, not Slade Griffin to be replaced by Josh Hannay

 

[Noitall]

Fonz shouted out Ben Gardiner? Kiwis assistant and assistant to madge at the tigers?

Think he might be more to do with attack, not completely sure but Cayless was the other assistant at tigers under Maguire and would assume he was more defensive assistant. Definitely need a defensive assistant now not named Justin Morgan.

 

[Deano]

Think he might be more to do with attack, not completely sure but Cayless was the other assistant at tigers under Maguire and would assume he was more defensive assistant. Definitely need a defensive assistant now not named Justin Morgan.

Josh Hannay for Defence

 

[Noitall]

Josh Hannay for Defence

Would be a good but I don’t reckon he’d leave the sharks for an assistant job. I might be alone but I’m still keen on Campion. More than happy with Stacey with what he means to and his identity to the club.

 

[Deano]

Would be a good but I don’t reckon he’d leave the sharks for an assistant job. I might be alone but I’m still keen on Campion. More than happy with Stacey with what he means to and his identity to the club.

Campion is great and should have some involvement, but giving a guy like Hannay a high role as an assistant coach would be great help for Webster

 

[Noitall]

Campion is great and should have some involvement, but giving a guy like Hannay a high role as an assistant coach would be great help for Webster

Don’t disagree, just don’t see him leaving an assistants role for another assistants role as well as moving to another country for it.

 

[Juno]

Think he might be more to do with attack, not completely sure but Cayless was the other assistant at tigers under Maguire and would assume he was more defensive assistant. Definitely need a defensive assistant now not named Justin Morgan.

Was there something wrong with the defence last game?
Or is morgan a favorite whipping boy?
I'd make a fair bet that during Brown's tenure both Jones and Morgan's influence in their respective roles was hamstrung by Brown whose policy was my way or the highway. Think he's been responsible for a lot happening, or not happening since he came on board.
Or am I missing something about Morgan altogether?

 

[Deano]

Was there something wrong with the defence last game?
Or is morgan a favorite whipping boy?
I'd make a fair bet that during Brown's tenure both Jones and Morgan's influence in their respective roles was hamstrung by Brown whose policy was my way or the highway. Think he's been responsible for a lot happening, or not happening since he came on board.
Or am I missing something about Morgan altogether?

Hannay is well renowned for his defence and is the master behind the shutdown of cleary in game 1. Morgan was also defence coach on Anzac Day and the warriors were playing the tigers who weren't threatening on attack.

 

[Noitall]

Was there something wrong with the defence last game?
Or is morgan a favorite whipping boy?
I'd make a fair bet that during Brown's tenure both Jones and Morgan's influence in their respective roles was hamstrung by Brown whose policy was my way or the highway. Think he's been responsible for a lot happening, or not happening since he came on board.
Or am I missing something about Morgan altogether?

Last game was great but there’s not a lot to like about his assistant roles over the last 10 years. Went to the raiders in 2012 and the finished 2nd to last and 2013 3rd to last, then went to the storm where they were knocked out in week 1 of the finals in both years with him involved. Came back here in 2020 and there hasn’t been a great deal of change to say he’s made a difference.

 

[Juno]

Hannay is well renowned for his defence and is the master behind the shutdown of cleary in game 1. Morgan was also defence coach on Anzac Day and the warriors were playing the tigers who weren't threatening on attack.

Last game was great but there’s not a lot to like about his assistant roles over the last 10 years. Went to the raiders in 2012 and the finished 2nd to last and 2013 3rd to last, then went to the storm where they were knocked out in week 1 of the finals in both years with him involved. Came back here in 2020 and there hasn’t been a great deal of change to say he’s made a difference.

Thanks for the background, makes it easier to see where the criticism comes from.
Be interesting to see what Webster does, heard he's a good communicator too so that has to be a positive.

 

[Noitall]

Thanks for the background, makes it easier to see where the criticism comes from.
Be interesting to see what Webster does, heard he's a good communicator too so that has to be a positive.

Andrew Webster and Justin Morgan were also assistant coaches in 2016 and I just don’t see them putting a failed combination together even if Andrew Webster is head coach this time.

 

[Stalefish540]

Was there something wrong with the defence last game?
Or is morgan a favorite whipping boy?
I'd make a fair bet that during Brown's tenure both Jones and Morgan's influence in their respective roles was hamstrung by Brown whose policy was my way or the highway. Think he's been responsible for a lot happening, or not happening since he came on board.
Or am I missing something about Morgan altogether?

It's hard to tell whether it was the loss of Brown or the inclusion of Campion because they overlapped. But as others have said the Tigers arn't really a good barometer for having your defensive structure tested anyway.

If we are still working with that ridiculous jamming structure whilst somehow still getting rolled through the middle over the next month then that's all Morgan.

 

[bruce]

3rd or 4th cab at the Penrith lands top job at warriors. Sounds about right.

and our second choice...that we know of