Staff Coaching Candidates 2022/23

Can’t say I’d be disappointed with any of them, but outside of the top 2, I wouldn’t be over the moon.

Unfortunately. Ciraldo and Flanagan seem to be shoe ins for the Tigers and Bulldogs jobs respectively though.

As long as whoever the next coach is has vision for the club that can be executed by building on what we have, rather than ripping the team apart yet again, I would be happy..
 
I'd be surprised if any of them said Yes, really, with the exception of Woolf.
If I had my pick it'd be Green, then Flanagan, then Woolf. Ciraldo would be in that three, but the Aussie word is he's definitely not interested.
 

Stalefish540

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Would anyone be disappointed with any of these appointments?

Cameron Ciraldo
Shane Flanagan
Kristian Woolf
Michael Maguire
Paul Green
Steve McNamara
Brad Fitler
Shaun Wane
Geoff Toovey
Jason Ryles
Cameron Ciraldo - Yes but unlikely
Shane Flanagan - Yes but unlikely
Kristian Woolf - Potentially
Michael Maguire - No
Paul Green - Potentially 2nd
Steve McNamara - No
Brad Fitler - No
Shaun Wane - No
Geoff Toovey - Shouldn't even be near a list
Jason Ryles - Yes but unlikely

Woolf first, with Green second for me out of who we can realistically land.

Come forth and grip the poison chalice with both hands at your career's peril.
 
Would anyone be disappointed with any of these appointments?

Cameron Ciraldo
Shane Flanagan
Kristian Woolf
Michael Maguire
Paul Green
Steve McNamara
Brad Fitler
Shaun Wane
Geoff Toovey
Jason Ryles
Of the European based candidates

Woolf is doing a good job at St Helens. He took over a good side but has improved them, especially on defence

Wane is a cracking bloke and has been a father figure to so many of the youngsters who came through and played for Wigan. However, he’s been out of the game for a while and strikes me as being a Wigan home boy who isn’t happy anywhere else.

McNamara I’d employ no problem. He’s got better over time, has NRL experience and done a brilliant job making Catalans consistent, something everybody else found impossible. It would amuse all you lot with his Hull accent, it amuses me anyhow. He’d make the players ‘wairk’ hard and he’d use his ‘fern’ to contact people.
 
Can’t say I’d be disappointed with any of them, but outside of the top 2, I wouldn’t be over the moon.

Unfortunately. Ciraldo and Flanagan seem to be shoe ins for the Tigers and Bulldogs jobs respectively though.

As long as whoever the next coach is has vision for the club that can be executed by building on what we have, rather than ripping the team apart yet again, I would be happy..
Rumour is that Fittler has the bulldogs job so Flanagan to us is a possibility.
 

mt.wellington

Warriors Orange Peeler
Ideally you want someone who has done it before or has the potential to. Green, Madge and Flano have all done it before. Woolf looks to be the best of the debutants.

As much as I would love to have Woolf I think he's a lock for the Dolphins gig. Bennett has already come out saying he will only coach them for a couple years and walk away. Woolf is widely rumoured to be his successor. Bennetts involvement with MMT only further strengthens that.

Its hard to judge Madge after his stint with the Tigers being a complete basketcase of a club for some time now. You have to say though that his whole tenure there as well as the back end of his time at the Rabbitohs had him looking highly frustrated and somewhat bereft of ideas.

I like Flano best. Theres not a single interview I have watched of the Sharks 2016 team where a player doesnt state unequivocally that Flano was the mastermind that orchestrated that seasons success. Very highly regarded and he finishes his suspension from head coaching at the end of this year.

Whatever happens and whoever is appointed I just pray Mark the Mohawk stays well away from the process...
 
Dont actually understand the love for Paul Green. I mean, Thurston and Taumalolo practically carried them along with Morgan.

My pick is one of the storm big 3 if there was ever a chance. The professionalism they bring is second to none. Big game experience, spent their careers under Bellamy, good mentors, well spoken and modern game experience.

Although, everyone is writing off Madge but i think our boys would respond well to him.
 
Woolf would be my first pick, but is likely to be Bennetts successor at the Dolphins.

Ryles is the most intriguing, he hasn’t been in any rush to look for a head coaching role and with stints in Melbourne and the UK might be more amendable to a move overseas than others. The stint coaching union could come in handy given that we have players crossing over from union.

Flanagan took a long time to achieve success at Cronulla and had to cheat the cap to do so. I’m not sure he’d have that luxury here.
 
Is this effectively a triple pronged appointment?

A new coach, who would have some say on the assistants to work with them.

Id imagine they would then have a view on the appointment of a Reserve grade coach and Jersey Flegg coach to get consistency in development, culture etc now that they are being reintroduced next season.

Take out the willingness to come to NZ it’s seems to be down to Woolf, Flanno and Ciraldo for the Head Coach.

In a coded messsge from CG they are not afraid of appointing rookie coach - this to me says they know who they like.

For all its recent escapades and short comings this is the club with undoubted opportunities if they can be realised.
 
Is this effectively a triple pronged appointment?

A new coach, who would have some say on the assistants to work with them.

Id imagine they would then have a view on the appointment of a Reserve grade coach and Jersey Flegg coach to get consistency in development, culture etc now that they are being reintroduced next season.

Take out the willingness to come to NZ it’s seems to be down to Woolf, Flanno and Ciraldo for the Head Coach.

In a coded messsge from CG they are not afraid of appointing rookie coach - this to me says they know who they like.

For all its recent escapades and short comings this is the club with undoubted opportunities if they can be realised.
Also scares me that could be Stacy.
 
Dont actually understand the love for Paul Green. I mean, Thurston and Taumalolo practically carried them along with Morgan.

My pick is one of the storm big 3 if there was ever a chance. The professionalism they bring is second to none. Big game experience, spent their careers under Bellamy, good mentors, well spoken and modern game experience.

Although, everyone is writing off Madge but i think our boys would respond well to him.
Could Paul Green bring Jonathan Thurston with him?
 
I dont think a coach with a good superleague record is the answer.
Look how its gone so far.
Other way we go is a coach in the 30s.
Think a new a approach is required
See if the walkers still want a job, bring back the excitement, trying to emulate the storm etc hasnt worked
Do the warriors thing and get woolf in as an assistsnt until the dolphins are ready for him and gordon Tietjens in for conditioning/ recruitment.
Im looking way out from the norm because the norm has failed.

Jones almost sounded like he didnt want a first grade job yet
 
It would be nice to have two assistant coaches to be groomed for the role next. Should any kiwis be given a go?

If Madge, Flanno or Woolf came here could they get some kiwis like.....

Benji Marshall
Slade Griffin
Simon Mannering
David kidwell

I'd try hire all of the top 3 with Benji groomed first to take over. Have salde Griffin coach the reserves and then when Benji gets the gig he moves up.

Simon Mannering coaching SG ball then to reserve then to assistant Nrl an so on.

Then you should only be hiring an SG Ball coach.

Any thoughts?
 
I like Flanigan, he is a defensive coach and is more like Bellamy when it comes to player responsibility and will go out of his way to get a real leader for the team. Any coach we get it's going to be a long process to get up to Finals standard like a Paramatta, i would say 4 to 5 years! Stay Strong and we might live to see a Grand Final win in our lifetime
 
The problem with Flanno is that at Cornell's he had Gallen, Fifita, and the brought in Lewis, Ennis to establish a core group. He then picked up experienced guys like Prior, Heinington who excelled as supporting pieces.

They played a "drag you into the mud and beat you down" style of football.

I just don't think we have the players or recruitment power to replicate that so with Flanno you're relying on him to achieve the same result an entirely different way.

That's why I think he would be fools gold. Another coach who tries to square peg us into his style. Madge would be the same imo.
 
The problem with Flanno is that at Cornell's he had Gallen, Fifita, and the brought in Lewis, Ennis to establish a core group. He then picked up experienced guys like Prior, Heinington who excelled as supporting pieces.

They played a "drag you into the mud and beat you down" style of football.

I just don't think we have the players or recruitment power to replicate that so with Flanno you're relying on him to achieve the same result an entirely different way.

That's why I think he would be fools gold. Another coach who tries to square peg us into his style. Madge would be the same imo.
And i think that philosophy is what is actually needed. We have no real leaders. Tohu Harris works hard and leads with his actions but hes no "leader". Apart from him though, i dont see anyone else who i would consider. We are lacking real leaders to pull us out of the mud.