General Can we win it this year or next?

[BeastMode]

We have players at their peak and ready to win.

Toohu, Luke, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, Blair, Green

Can we do it with the lost of Shaun Johnson ???

 

[brightman]

Yeah right!

No..

 

[matiunz]

No reason we can’t, being short a noted half and goal kicker will make it tough though

 

[Dunedin warrior]

This year not a hope. Have lost our star half and haven’t replaced him, however promising our young halves are I don’t think they are near a Jones Shaun Johnson type where they can make a big contribution straight away. Top 8 would be awesome this year.

2020 possibly we could go very depending on player development this year and recruitment.

 

[The Falcon]

We are probably a tackle busting centre and dynamic back rower shy this season.
I think internally the coaching set up would have been viewing 2020 as the year the team made a real push for the title. Halves pairings currently now an unknown quantity. I’m always eternally optimistic like everyone else on the forum

 

[3rdstriker]

I think we can next year, we are building nicely and seemed to have got rid of the bad culture.
We need a couple more key signings and a top 4 finish this year, if that happens we have a good platform for next year.

 

[Mr Brownstone]

Zero chance this year - I think top 10 would be a good effort. Next year completely dependent on recruitment because right now we simply don't have the cattle to be a contender.

 

[Lance155]

I do like the overall picture of the team at the moment. My concern for this year is Green taking on too much and trying to spark every play. I think he may overplay his hand and look worse than he is.

 

[AlexM]

I think we could, there's always a chance.
We could at least make the top 4.
I'm happy if we make finals again tbh.

 

[wizards rage]

Aim would be to be competitive in finals this year with the next 3 years being the window.

If we can hold our own this year and front load the cap we can recruit and push the following few years

 

[smc]

This year’s fucked. Next year is always our year.

 

[razzrillinger]

I have seen Buzz Rothfield and MG pick us for the Spoon over the last few days.

Aside from the old "The lower the expectations are, the better we seem to go" mantra that the Warriors seem to live by, what I saw last year in terms of fitness, mental toughness and just the general vibe around the team and between teammates, the loss of Shaun Johnson isn't going to sink us to last place.

We have made the finals 3 years in a row just the once : 2001, 2002 and 2003. This is something that needs to be repeated and extended upon.

Looking at who we have signed right now for 2021 : Afoa, Ah Mau, Fusitu'a, Harris, Maumalo, Satae (only one I'm not sure on) and Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, they're all very talented players who work hard and just as importantly are good people. This gives me the belief that the people pulling the recruitment and retention strings are doing a good job.

 

[Sky Waka]

I'll put it this way, the Gold Coast Titans will win it before the Worriers do.

 

[defensivebomb]

If we will all of our games (including the grand final), we will be in with a good chance to win it. The same applies for next season as well

 

[BeastMode]

Aim would be to be competitive in finals this year with the next 3 years being the window.

If we can hold our own this year and front load the cap we can recruit and push the following few years

Luke, Blair, Green and Tohu Harris to a degree will all digress in 3 years.... 3/4 will have most likely retired.... Roger Tuivasa-Sheck will be a step slower.

If we are going to win, it has to be now.

Find us a decent experienced half to side with Green for FFS!!!

 

[JaggedJ]

I like the direction the team is heading overall.

No we won't win it this year. Still too many gaps in key areas

 

[Johnnyray]

Yeah just look at all guys we've got. We have some of best players NZ has ever produced in our side, Adam Blair, Agnatius Passi, Lesson Ah Mau, Issac Luke, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, Tohu Harris, David Fusitua etc. Two well experienced Australians as our halves pairings, Adam Keighran and Blake Green, plus Stephen Kearney as our head coach. Dude if you don't think we can win it this year, you'll be wrong ...

 

[wizards rage]

Luke, Blair, Green and Tohu Harris to a degree will all digress in 3 years.... 3/4 will have most likely retired.... Roger Tuivasa-Sheck will be a step slower.

If we are going to win, it has to be now.

Find us a decent experienced half to side with Green for FFS!!!

Question...

Would we rather build a system like Melbourne that through culture, tactics, recruitment, fitness, long term planning, etc is top 8 every year. Put the teams growth before the individual. Knowing that with that system, you will keep building and win a title because your there or thereabouts every year.

Or put everything into the here and now, keep our superstar halfback at the cost of other areas of the squad. Go all in because we have a few great players currently in the team. Maybe if we’re lucky the stars align and we pick up a title but we fade away after as our focus is short term?

Honest question... what does everyone prefer?

 

[BeastMode]

Question...

Would we rather build a system like Melbourne that through culture, tactics, recruitment, fitness, long term planning, etc is top 8 every year. Put the teams growth before the individual. Knowing that with that system, you will keep building and win a title because your there or thereabouts every year.

Or put everything into the here and now, keep our superstar halfback at the cost of other areas of the squad. Go all in because we have a few great players currently in the team. Maybe if we’re lucky the stars align and we pick up a title but we fade away after as our focus is short term?

Honest question... what does everyone prefer?

Win first.

Worry about the rest later.

 

[Ever Hopeful]

No.

Premierships are won through forward planning. Winning dynasties from meticulous planning and luck.

In 2020 many of our key players will be in their prime and they will have the money for intelligent investment in key areas that can set the foundations for long-term success. They better not fuck that up by panicking and investing in stop-gaps for moderate success in 2019.

Outwardly they should be saying premiership in 2019. Within ranks it should be about 2020 and beyond. Aim for 6-8. Be content with anywhere in the top 10.

Of course, we all hope that culture, luck, and all other good mojo clicks for a great season this year. I'd just be disappointed if they let the opportunity for long-term success pass them by. Plenty of premiers have had poor seasons of "cleansing" lead them into a period of long-lasting success. It wasn't so long ago that the Roosters and the Bunnies were propping up the table as perennial easy-beats.