General Can the NRL help out?

[playdaball]

A thought …

Should the NRL help out the Warriors by offering salary cap relief?

Reasons;
1, As evident by recent happenings , the Warriors are struggling to get Australian players to cross the Tasman

2, Being based in Aust for the last few seasons has meant that the traditional depth has not grown as no reserve grade, age group teams for the Warriors

3, it’s been stated that the NRL is grateful to the Warriors for moving to Aust as the comp May have folded - no reward to date for this

I’m not 100% sure what financial relief should be given but perhaps should be based on the average NRL salary x 2?

Some would say that the Storm and Canberra ( outside of NSW & QLD) are in a similar position but I think the Warriors have unique circumstances and play an important part in the NRL.

Thoughts?

 

[Tim burgess]

It is a good thought. If it wasn't for covid I'd have loved to see what infrastructure would have been in place in terms if pathways and reserve grade etc.

Next year will be a new start for the club.

 

[Diesel]

I’m not sure about salary cap relief but any funding to re-start a NZ Cup of 6-8 teams plus putting in place pathways through the Fox competition. Also funding NZRL. It won’t happen because they’re Australian and it’s only lip service IMO

 

[AlexM]

Just tell them to let us win the comp..

 

[Beastmode]

A thought …

Should the NRL help out the Warriors by offering salary cap relief?

Reasons;
1, As evident by recent happenings , the Warriors are struggling to get Australian players to cross the Tasman

2, Being based in Aust for the last few seasons has meant that the traditional depth has not grown as no reserve grade, age group teams for the Warriors

3, it’s been stated that the NRL is grateful to the Warriors for moving to Aust as the comp May have folded - no reward to date for this

I’m not 100% sure what financial relief should be given but perhaps should be based on the average NRL salary x 2?

Some would say that the Storm and Canberra ( outside of NSW & QLD) are in a similar position but I think the Warriors have unique circumstances and play an important part in the NRL.

Thoughts?

You’d have a better chance of asking the refs to stop being bias cu**s against us..

 

[tajhay]

1, As evident by recent happenings , the Warriors are struggling to get Australian players to cross the Tasman

When has that ever not been the case?

Being based in Aust for the last few seasons has meant that the traditional depth has not grown as no reserve grade, age group teams for the Warriors

That's for the Warriors to resolve. They had the option to have qld /nsw teams and age group teams. Instead put all their baskets on the team most likely to get the next nrl license.

3, it’s been stated that the NRL is grateful to the Warriors for moving to Aust as the comp May have folded - no reward to date for this

Let's not overstate the obvious. Either way, as the only non aus team in the nrl it was going to be a lose/lose with borders closed during covid. It was in the club's best interest to stay and participate. The nrl comp would have still gone on without the warriors whether it being a bye or a invitational team making up for the Warriors. Now let's think of the flipside if the club had gone back - just think how many players would be contracted to the club right now if they did. Do you think Addin Fonua-Blake, Walsh etc would be content with being contracted to a club not playing in the nrl?

The covid circumstances hit the club hard, but that's part and parcel of the exceptional circumstances the whole world went through during a pandemic.

Happy to receive additional home games, but extra salary cap is pushing it. The club did exceptionally well in dealing with it professionally. Long may it continue. And that includes not trying to now asking to be a charity case as if it was solely responsible for the comp going ahead.

The financial hit the club would have taken would have been enormous, but it would have been catastrophic if they went back (as some fans suggested they do...). That's something we should all be thankful for.

Readjusting back to life for many kiwi based players back in nz will be interesting to watch unfold. Especially the younger players.

 

[Aman]

Why would the NRL help out with salary cap relieve when the owners giving away free money to players who aren’t even going to be here

 

[dean]

No, shouldn't give us a handout. We should learn to manage ourselves properly, we have had 27 years to practice this,

 

[Once A Warrior]

Yeah I don't think we should get cap relief. We have always struggled to get players from Oz over here.

And if we believe what the warriors are saying, we are not in cap trouble.

However any assistance they can give to get our pathways and reserve grade kicking again would be good. Whatever we lost through covid should be reinstalled without it being a cost to the club, I think nrl owes it to the warriors in this regards.

 

[wizards rage]

Yeah I don't think we should get cap relief. We have always struggled to get players from Oz over here.

And if we believe what the warriors are saying, we are not in cap trouble.

However any assistance they can give to get our pathways and reserve grade kicking again would be good. Whatever we lost through covid should be reinstalled without it being a cost to the club, I think nrl owes it to the warriors in this regards.

Exactly right. NZ provides a lot of junior talent to many clubs, not just the Warriors.

League in NZ is dying and the NRL will be poorer for it if it doesn’t help grow the lower levels. That was what Gould was bought in for (he has close ties with the top of the game).

I think the NRL realise this, it’s just how they put help in place that will be effective, which is the million dollar question. Covid has set league back by years in NZ.

 

[matiunz]

Number 1 in priorities for the NRL is to look after their own back yard, they don’t technically owe NZ anything.
However you could argue that they have benefitted from raw NZ talent albeit that has generally been refined in Australian systems. Long term considering the amount of money NRL makes from NZ both directly and indirectly it would make business sense to develop NZ systems to be comparable to Australia’s to increase the talent pool, a 2nd (less of a basket case) team could be beneficial for NZs league appetite.
No club should recieve benefits over another except for perhaps an expansion franchise to get them up and running for a few years. Also think it’s a bit of an overused troupe ‘we saved the comp, we are owed something’- in reality the comp would have continued in some format without us and we likely would have faded into oblivion had we not pulled out all the stops to stay in the comp

 

[snake77]

The NRL talk about the integrity of its salary cap. I know insert jokes here but that is what the management often state. Whenever people have suggested dispensation or something else for remote sides to help compete or whatever the issue that is trying to be solved has been suggested arguments have been made against it or for other sides.

Any investment for the local game would of been more likely when Gould was with the club concentrating on that area. He would of been more likely to get an ear to the NRL higher-ups. At the moment it would be on how much the owner is willing to put in.

As far as capital for the club due to lost revenue over the last few years. There has been talk every so often the NRL has been helping them out. Might be wrong on this and it could just be helping with logistics.

For any thank you to the club for the last few years I'd say it is more likely a few clubs move their home games next year. I doubt we will get the full season in NZ. May just go back to normal and never hear anything about the club being based in Australia for 3 years. It is already getting less discussion as things return to normal.

 

[mrblonde]

A thought …

Should the NRL help out the Warriors by offering salary cap relief?

Reasons;
1, As evident by recent happenings , the Warriors are struggling to get Australian players to cross the Tasman

2, Being based in Aust for the last few seasons has meant that the traditional depth has not grown as no reserve grade, age group teams for the Warriors

3, it’s been stated that the NRL is grateful to the Warriors for moving to Aust as the comp May have folded - no reward to date for this

I’m not 100% sure what financial relief should be given but perhaps should be based on the average NRL salary x 2?

Some would say that the Storm and Canberra ( outside of NSW & QLD) are in a similar position but I think the Warriors have unique circumstances and play an important part in the NRL.

Thoughts?

1. Same situation since 1995. Which will remain even after the Warriors win (giggle, snort) their (louder giggle, louder snort) first NRL... I think I'll stop there.
2. Fair call but could the Warriors have done more to help themselves?
3. So the NRL may have folded? So what? Abdo and Vlandys and co maybe lose their jerbs. COVID or not, Rugba league still has lots of fans. Lots Of Fans = Lots Of Subscribers To The Pay TV/Streaming/Radio Folk Who Broadcast Rugby League. Rugby league in Australasia was never in severe threat of folding because of COVID. Different Broadcasters would have signed up to show The Greatest Game Of All.

The Warriors moving to Australia and staying there wasn't a particularly altruistic move, either. It was Move or Die.

 

[bruce]

A thought …

Should the NRL help out the Warriors by offering salary cap relief?

Reasons;
1, As evident by recent happenings , the Warriors are struggling to get Australian players to cross the Tasman

2, Being based in Aust for the last few seasons has meant that the traditional depth has not grown as no reserve grade, age group teams for the Warriors

3, it’s been stated that the NRL is grateful to the Warriors for moving to Aust as the comp May have folded - no reward to date for this

I’m not 100% sure what financial relief should be given but perhaps should be based on the average NRL salary x 2?

Some would say that the Storm and Canberra ( outside of NSW & QLD) are in a similar position but I think the Warriors have unique circumstances and play an important part in the NRL.

Thoughts?

We are here for the TV ratings

 

[Once A Warrior]

We are here for the TV ratings

And ratings aren't good!

 

[bruce]

And ratings aren't good!

Whatever, they are more than AFL in NZ...that be the point...and they always will be.

 

[snake77]

The NRL helping out? After 3 years being based in Australia and Auckland starved for top class rugby league. What is more likely to happen is we will have the bye in round 1 next year followed by two away games.

 

[matiunz]

The NRL helping out? After 3 years being based in Australia and Auckland starved for top class rugby league. What is more likely to happen is we will have the bye in round 1 next year followed by two away games.

And you just know we will yet again lose another home game to magic round

 

[wizards rage]

What the NRL should be doing to assist the game in NZ:

- get former greats touring NZ regularly to promote the sport - Cam Smith, Thurston, Johns, etc
- get the commentators to be positive about the Warriors
- even better fund NZ commentators assisting the regulars for Warriors games
- get the NRL shows to give equal coverage to NZ (I know they are catering to their market but this is to grow the sport and create a bigger market)
- get former coaches running school age coaching camps. There are always plenty out of a job or between jobs (Brown, Green, Maninga, etc)
- have the NRL running several school competitions in NZ every year where several nrl players come as VIP’s
- play several reprentitive games in NZ every year all stars, Maori vs Aborigine; a SOO game, Australia/ NZ test matches annually, etc
- encouraging all teams to take 1 or 2 home games to growth areas (including around NZ). That’s about 20-30 games per year growing new markets. Get the Sydney teams doing a greater share. Similar to a game in Perth every year but supersized.

The NRL has used us as a cash cow as the game dies in NZ. Grow the game and we get more talent recruited into all the teams, build up to a second NZ team and the tv rights grow.

 

[bruce]

What the NRL should be doing to assist the game in NZ:

Like they really give a shite?