Staff Cameron George

Do you sack Cameron George


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bruce

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Very interested in his ARL plan. Any details? Finding kids to play League is tough!

I think one of biggest issues we have in NZ League in general is that while we have massive interest in the game at the NRL level, so many NZ League fans contribute nothing to the grassroots level.

They don’t play, volunteer, ref, coach, fundraise, or do anything that would help strengthen our base.

Barring Maori/Islanders they don’t even let their kids play mostly.

We need more kids playing the game.

The we need “more hard Aussie white boys” crowd is right in the sense that they’re are F all hard “white boys” here to pick from because they won’t ever play the game.

Maybe we’d have more Mark Graham’s and Simon Mannering’s if more Pakeha actually played the game and/or let their kids play.

No disrespect to the hearty Pakeha bros who do play/contribute.

If kids can tackle big Poly boys in rugby they can probably tackle them in league too. If little white Aussie league kids can tackle them, our white kids probably can.

God forbid we could have half the jr numbers/volunteers/funding of rugby let alone fucking soccer lol. The Warriors/Kiwis would be a bloody force.

Instead we’ve all these “experts” who know everything about league who’ve somehow contributed none of that knowledge to their local club/juniors and probably can’t even name the local club.

And don’t get me started on the guys who watch the NRL all weekend over Rugby but then volunteer their time to a rugby club instead of a league club. Ffs.
To be fair to both the NZRL and the ARL they are up against the Australian economy and our brain drain.

Bright Kiwis are heading over the ditch to be replaced by unskilled Indians who cannot get into the US, Canada or Oz.

If you think about it that isn't doing much for our workforce, or even cricket teams for some reason, and as for league we are going to have to try and watch for Maori or Pacifica boys at places like Keebra Park.

The question is can it be done, the answer is if it isn't we are stuffed.

Also, and not a jibe at anybody in particular, but the Carlaw Park diehards are all well over 60 now. They are genuine league tragics with a passion for the history and traditions of the game.

The modern fan is a combination of Warriors groupies and genuine fans who although loyal don't seem to know or even care much about the history of the game.

Just to show I am not being too harsh, when Carlaw Park was the centre of NZ league the Winfield Cup was only for a few fanatics.

The game here was very strong with genuine home grown stars who used to belt the shite of Kangaroos in an Auckland jersey every few years.

What the game needs is a guy who has both money a feel for the traditions of the game, like Mohawk's father had.

Is that too big an ask?
 

bruce

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George is a terrible public speaker, which is not surprising for an uneducated person.
Leaving the lack of formal education aside, it is easy for anybody to attend a public speaking course.
Public speaking 101, when asked a question speak to it, don't rave on like a politician looking for a Twitter bite.
One has to ask why an organisation with a multi million dollar turnover, employs such a person as CEO.
Somebody mentioned CEOs should be on $400k but I know an international franchise, based in Australia, whose NZ CEO was on about $50k.
I thought the questions were all intelligent, and well put, he answered like he was talking to a moron.
The guy is just a yob.
So we have two yobs at the top, I just hope Webster can work through it.
 
Yes he is a tool, but he can be entertaining, like a cheeky 13 year old.:rolleyes:
I disagree, I used to think the guy was an idiot but I actually got to meet him and talk in depth on a few topics and honestly the guy is an absolute encyclopaedia of sports knowledge, yes sometimes his delivery could be refined but seriously he’s the only one who asks questions in many interviews that need to be asked and others are too afraid to ask, Waldegrave and co talk a big game then when the person is in front of them shrivel up like the old fella in a snowstorm.
 
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george mentions "webby" is coming here to win not rebuild. very interesting comments considering we are losing players and bringing in players next year brownie picked.
 

Akkerz

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Thanks for posting this interview Once A Warrior. -

Not feeling at all confident about this appointmentt. Comments from Cameron George indicate
- current staff will remain employed & if Andrew wants to bring in his own staff it will have to be with the approval of management & their plans for the club moving forward (that infers Mohawk will keep his stool pigeons at hand)

- that Warriors are not rebuilding & Andrew Webster knows we expect to win from day one (totally unrealistic)

Now most of us realise CG is a complete drong but I know if I was faced with those challenges in my first head coaching role with a club as poorly run as ours I'd run a mile.

I sincerely hope Webster doesn't get burned by this
 
Jobs for the boys. It sounds like CG is looking after his mates Justin Morgan and Stacey Jones and ensuring they stay.
Good luck to Webster, he has an uphill battle on his hands. Another Cameron George or Mohawk interference or propaganda spin is just around the corner.
 

bruce

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I used to think the guy was an idiot
I hear you, but I used to listen to his breakfast show decades ago, the irreverence I could put up with but then he got all chummy with his new friend Miles Davis FFS...and then one morning as Brendon Telfer (who he hated) came on Devlin started an anti gay rant.

Telfer doubled down and told him he had many gay friends, so that really got Devlin going.

Then there was the time he had an argument with his missus downtown and ended up jumping up and down on somebody's bonnet.

The guy is an idiot, who can act sane sometimes.
 
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bruce

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Now most of us realise CG is a complete drong but I know if I was faced with those challenges in my first head coaching role with a club as poorly run as ours I'd run a mile.
Good point, and so would any other decent coach.
However, and I grasp at straws and mention when Elton John offered the Watford job to an unheard of Graham Taylor, the rest is history.
 
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George is a terrible public speaker, which is not surprising for an uneducated person.
Leaving the lack of formal education aside, it is easy for anybody to attend a public speaking course.
Public speaking 101, when asked a question speak to it, don't rave on like a politician looking for a Twitter bite.
One has to ask why an organisation with a multi million dollar turnover, employs such a person as CEO.
Somebody mentioned CEOs should be on $400k but I know an international franchise, based in Australia, whose NZ CEO was on about $50k.
I thought the questions were all intelligent, and well put, he answered like he was talking to a moron.
The guy is just a yob.
So we have two yobs at the top, I just hope Webster can work through it.
I have some advice for him. If you want to be a better public speaker. Say only what needs to be said and don't prattle on like your a total expert. That's what gets you in trouble with th media.

Homer Simpson has the perfect advice.

 
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You are so polite...it was total bullshit
interesting cause is he trying to sell to the media that we have a competitive team next year or that he actually believes we will be competitive. i feel like i am in the few on this forum that believe we have recruited pretty poorly especially under his watch.
 
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bruce

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interesting cause is he trying to sell to the media that we have a competitive team next year or that he actually believes we will be competitive. i feel like i am in the few on this forum that believe we have recruited pretty poorly especially under his watch.
Is the CEO responsible for recruitment? If so why? WTF does he know about the game? The coach should tell the CEO who he wants and he goes and gets him.
 
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Is the CEO responsible for recruitment? If so why? WTF does he know about the game? The coach should tell the CEO who he wants and he goes and gets him.
a ceo should not have anything to do with recruitment. The way CG words his statements he absolutely does or wants the impression to all out there that he does.

a coach should tell a GM on who he wants or the type of player he wants. A CEO should not have an input into football operations like CG does
 
At what point do we stop blaming players and coaches and realise hiring morons to run our team is killing us. Releasing Walsh for no compensation and the whole Lodge situation demonstrates severe incompetence in operations. Get him out now, or I'll drive up there and and drag him out of Mt Smart by his throat.
 
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