Staff Cameron George

Do you sack Cameron George


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Honestly, CG must hold the view that Warriors fans are the softest sell in the league and he‘s probably right to some degree.

He’s sat on the Walsh news for weeks until he could announce CNK, and with the new coach signing also imminent it provides another talking point to direct attention away from losing Walsh.

I have no issue with Walsh leaving, there’s no blame to level imo but there is an insincerity by CG towards the timing of, and how such news is conveyed/Spun, Lodge another example of this.

Just be frank and honest with the fan base is all I ask.
Lately I find myself starting to doubt everything they tell us. Did Reece even have covid... is any of it real? If you follow this club long enough you end up nuttier than an antivaxx demonstrator.
 

matiunz

This year yet?
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Honestly, CG must hold the view that Warriors fans are the softest sell in the league and he‘s probably right to some degree.

He’s sat on the Walsh news for weeks until he could announce CNK, and with the new coach signing also imminent it provides another talking point to direct attention away from losing Walsh.

I have no issue with Walsh leaving, there’s no blame to level imo but there is an insincerity by CG towards the timing of, and how such news is conveyed/Spun, Lodge another example of this.

Just be frank and honest with the fan base is all I ask.
Actually think a large chunk of the fan base is that gullible so he’s not far off the mark. The amount of time I see ‘not a real fan’ ‘just keep the faith’ ‘Refs just don’t want nz team to win’ as a response to any legitimate criticism shows the mindset of a large chunk of our fans
 
I'm not the best at geography but I don't see how being in Sydney while his father in law is in Redcliffe is close.
I have no doubt Lodge wanted to leave. But I still have the feeling Lodge got the upper hand because of something that was said that was either in that argument or said that caused it.
I heard a rumor that doesn't make sense, that Lodge actually got into an altercation with Rubin Wiki.
Don't believe it as I don't think Rubin is even working with the senior team these days and nothing has been mentioned before.
 
Actually think a large chunk of the fan base is that gullible so he’s not far off the mark. The amount of time I see ‘not a real fan’ ‘just keep the faith’ ‘Refs just don’t want nz team to win’ as a response to any legitimate criticism shows the mindset of a large chunk of our fans
Yep, when I think about some of the Nrl fanbases out there, Alpha and CG get off lightly.
 

gREVUS

Long live the Rainbows and Butterflies
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Yeah it sounded like Goulds influence delivered Brown
actually thought involving Gould was the worst thing that the club could do. and that didnt account for covid.
My reason was he is totally ego driven. Its all about him and his choices. he sees himself as the messiah everything he touches flourishes.
Only its not true. Ivan got him kicked from the Panthers. After he had kicked out both Ivan, and Anthony previously. His long term development of juniors is something anyone could do, hell the warriors used to have a great academy. The problems he is trying to fix are all related to the loss a decent B grade Mens comp. Since they ditched that, the quality of players available has dropped and the numbers just arent there. Simple. they have removed a block in the Jenga stack and its left the stack wobbling.
Hell when they were looking for a coach they ignored Anthony Griffin because of his relationship with Gould and those rumours. When the reality was that Gould sacked him when the panthers were on the rise and in the top 4. Hardly a ringing endorsement of a man who makes good decisions
anyway its my opinion.
 
actually thought involving Gould was the worst thing that the club could do. and that didnt account for covid.
My reason was he is totally ego driven. Its all about him and his choices. he sees himself as the messiah everything he touches flourishes.
Only its not true. Ivan got him kicked from the Panthers. After he had kicked out both Ivan, and Anthony previously. His long term development of juniors is something anyone could do, hell the warriors used to have a great academy. The problems he is trying to fix are all related to the loss a decent B grade Mens comp. Since they ditched that, the quality of players available has dropped and the numbers just arent there. Simple. they have removed a block in the Jenga stack and its left the stack wobbling.
Hell when they were looking for a coach they ignored Anthony Griffin because of his relationship with Gould and those rumours. When the reality was that Gould sacked him when the panthers were on the rise and in the top 4. Hardly a ringing endorsement of a man who makes good decisions
anyway its my opinion.
Have to agree to disagree there about Gould, for the time he was here and the meetings he held with stakeholders on the ground, his fresh ideas were discussed and taken seriously. 1 big plan if it gets off the ground in the next 12 months will shake things up in Auckland and quite possibly stop the decline in the game at the grassroots level. One thing that he did say, about Auckland is all the key stakeholders are too divided. His name alone was pulling power for people to listen.
 

gREVUS

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Have to agree to disagree there about Gould, for the time he was here and the meetings he held with stakeholders on the ground, his fresh ideas were discussed and taken seriously. 1 big plan if it gets off the ground in the next 12 months will shake things up in Auckland and quite possibly stop the decline in the game at the grassroots level. One thing that he did say, about Auckland is all the key stakeholders are too divided. His name alone was pulling power for people to listen.
"1 big plan if it gets off the ground in the next 12 months"
but hes not there to see it happen or drive it forward. Is there a back up plan or is it all off the pulling power of the name of Gus Gould.
Look just like you i hope it works out, I have no information about it, and obviously you do, so i wont harp on to much. But i will ask have the fractures in the Auckland RL healed? Because IMO the issue is the same as it always was - money. Theres not enough of it, and those with it and who earned it want to use it to focus on them and theirs. Unless this changes the slide in RL in NZ is going to continue.

Here in Melb, the AFL did a deal with Netball and combined at a grass roots level. The basis of the deal was to increase club sizes, introduce more people to both sports, and give a bigger war chest to netball etc. A mom i knew involved in a netball club said it could be their death. The AFL side takes all the money and pushes girls into AFL. Resources are allocated on a numbers game and money is taken to pay the pro players in the side to boost the quality of the signings. And this is just a local team not one of the big ones. Netball players have just become a subs factory for the afl.

So unless Guss brought mountains of gold with him, i really have trouble seeing the difficulties going away.
 
"1 big plan if it gets off the ground in the next 12 months"
but hes not there to see it happen or drive it forward. Is there a back up plan or is it all off the pulling power of the name of Gus Gould.
Look just like you i hope it works out, I have no information about it, and obviously you do, so i wont harp on to much. But i will ask have the fractures in the Auckland RL healed? Because IMO the issue is the same as it always was - money. Theres not enough of it, and those with it and who earned it want to use it to focus on them and theirs. Unless this changes the slide in RL in NZ is going to continue.

Here in Melb, the AFL did a deal with Netball and combined at a grass roots level. The basis of the deal was to increase club sizes, introduce more people to both sports, and give a bigger war chest to netball etc. A mom i knew involved in a netball club said it could be their death. The AFL side takes all the money and pushes girls into AFL. Resources are allocated on a numbers game and money is taken to pay the pro players in the side to boost the quality of the signings. And this is just a local team not one of the big ones. Netball players have just become a subs factory for the afl.

So unless Guss brought mountains of gold with him, i really have trouble seeing the difficulties going away.
He's still advising stakeholders - having his name involved brought groups together to listen, which isn't easy at grassroots over here. He wanted to see the grassroots game thrive here in Auckland based on the player and club numbers. A few strategic plans, reports, and club models floating around for the last few years but nothing changes. That Penrith junior system can be replicated here too and Auckland is the best possible chance, again based on player/club numbers and demographics. I could go on for ages and yes I'm one of the converted when it comes to Gus and his views.

No the division at the grassroots level is still alive, and distrust in the NZW cause of Mohawks ownership and giving his circle key positions that are aligned to his junior club is an issue that doesn't come to light much until you look deeper, who's from where, etc.

TBH CG in my opinion gets a 12-month window to turn the business side of the Front Office around and tidy things up; cause he's been using the COVID19 lines and relocating back to NZ a lot lately from what I've been watching/listening. Fewer media statements and fix the internal issues. After 12 months he'll need reviewing which probably won't come if you're tight with Mohawk - that's how it rolls.

For me, Devlin was the man calling out CG over a few things in that interview and mentioning Mohawk lol Pathways, and Kids LOL detail the stats of what has been done at grassroots here to date?

Been awhile venting on here lol
 
The Warriors will announce Andrew Webster to replace Nathan Brown as the club’s chief executive Cameron George hit back at suggestions the decision to release Reece Walsh only to the Broncos was part of a personal vendetta against the Dolphins and their recruitment boss Peter O’Sullivan.
Webster has agreed to a three-year deal which will see him replace Nathan Brown at the end of the season. Webster was courted for the role after the club’s No.1 target Kristian Woolf knocked back the Warriors.

He has a year left on his Panthers deal but has a clause that allows him to leave only to pursue a head coaching job.

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Warriors CEO Cameron George has denied releasing Reece Walsh to the Broncos because of a vendetta against the Dolphins. Picture: Getty Images.

Warriors CEO Cameron George has denied releasing Reece Walsh to the Broncos because of a vendetta against the Dolphins. Picture: Getty Images.
Webster has nearly two decades worth of experience as a coach and is largely credited for ensuring Penrith has the best attack in the NRL. He has close ties to the Warriors having worked as Andrew McFadden’s assistant coach in 2015. He spent two years at the Warriors before returning to the Tigers as Taylor’s assistant.

The Warriors had targeted an emerging coach and Webster fits the bill. He is also the Samoan assistant coach.

Webster will walk into a club who has already undergone significant change. They will be without teenage star Walsh who will quit the club at the end of the year.

The Warriors are set to announce Andrew Webster (left) as their new head coach for 2023. Picture: AAP.

The Warriors are set to announce Andrew Webster (left) as their new head coach for 2023. Picture: AAP.
Walsh has been linked with the Dolphins for months, the rumours persisting despite the Warriors’ best efforts. There was a view in some quarters that those rumours were designed to destabilise Walsh’s future in Auckland and convince him to return to Brisbane, where the cashed-up Dolphins were waiting.

In the end Walsh will depart, albeit to his former club Brisbane. George said there was no ill-will towards the Dolphins or O’Sullivan, the Warriors former recruitment officer.

“There is nothing personal about it,” George said.

“It’s business. At the end of the day their preference is to go to the Brisbane Broncos. It’s nothing against the Dolphins and it’s nothing against Sully (O’Sullivan).

“I have been a recipient of a similar thing with Addin Fonua-Blake. He said he only wanted to go to the Warriors. What do you think Sully would have done in my shoes?”
 
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He's still advising stakeholders - having his name involved brought groups together to listen, which isn't easy at grassroots over here. He wanted to see the grassroots game thrive here in Auckland based on the player and club numbers. A few strategic plans, reports, and club models floating around for the last few years but nothing changes. That Penrith junior system can be replicated here too and Auckland is the best possible chance, again based on player/club numbers and demographics. I could go on for ages and yes I'm one of the converted when it comes to Gus and his views.

Very interested in his ARL plan. Any details? Finding kids to play League is tough!

I think one of biggest issues we have in NZ League in general is that while we have massive interest in the game at the NRL level, so many NZ League fans contribute nothing to the grassroots level.

They don’t play, volunteer, ref, coach, fundraise, or do anything that would help strengthen our base.

Barring Maori/Islanders they don’t even let their kids play mostly.

We need more kids playing the game.

The we need “more hard Aussie white boys” crowd is right in the sense that they’re are F all hard “white boys” here to pick from because they won’t ever play the game.

Maybe we’d have more Mark Graham’s and Simon Mannering’s if more Pakeha actually played the game and/or let their kids play.

No disrespect to the hearty Pakeha bros who do play/contribute.

If kids can tackle big Poly boys in rugby they can probably tackle them in league too. If little white Aussie league kids can tackle them, our white kids probably can.

God forbid we could have half the jr numbers/volunteers/funding of rugby let alone fucking soccer lol. The Warriors/Kiwis would be a bloody force.

Instead we’ve all these “experts” who know everything about league who’ve somehow contributed none of that knowledge to their local club/juniors and probably can’t even name the local club.

And don’t get me started on the guys who watch the NRL all weekend over Rugby but then volunteer their time to a rugby club instead of a league club. Ffs.