General AUTEX Ownership - The New Chapter

How do you feel about our new owners?

  • Excellent

    Votes: 24 17.3%
  • Good

    Votes: 50 36.0%
  • On the fence

    Votes: 52 37.4%
  • Bad

    Votes: 9 6.5%
  • Tar and feather them!

    Votes: 4 2.9%

  • Total voters
    139

gREVUS

Long live the Rainbows and Butterflies
Contributor
May 8, 2012
8,747
Thank fuck that he is saying that people are accountable. Words are just words at the end of the day though. Lets see if he actually means what he says.

But i dont like this statement:
"He's slowly getting the players he want, he's got most of the ones…there's a couple more he'd like for next season, then it's up to him because it is his team. At the moment it's a team he was given."

No its not. I cant think of any player that was on a 4+ year deal before he came here..so its pretty much ALL his team. Its HIS players that he overpaid for that he chooses not to drop because it doesnt look good to management when you fork out way overs and then put them in reserve grade and have them replaced with minimum salary players.

Good on Autex. One owner hopefully going forward with this club. History has shown that this club cannot have multiple owners, and history has shown that ARL should never be given an opportunity to jeopardise Auckland rugby league scene by buying a professional entity.
I would love to see him name the players that SK is not happy with or even see him start the season with these unnamed players sitting in the stands. He has a 30 man squad available to him and needs less than 20 on the day. Thats 10 players that he should be able to sit out and would make it obvious if there are slackers on big money or if hes talking a few of the fringe buys
 

tajhay

Negative Nancy
Mar 30, 2012
10,533
Sydney
They had a say in 1/2 of this mess.... you can’t blame it all on ARL and think it’s all going to be rosy now they’re gone ....
Yes but its pretty hard to get other parties to outlay cash to invest in the club when the other party wont. A sole owner going forward is the best decision for the club. Its wholly their investment now...and if run as a business the main point would be to make it as valuable as possible...rather than seeing it as an investment vehicle to drive profits to the local game.
 

gREVUS

Long live the Rainbows and Butterflies
Contributor
May 8, 2012
8,747
Yes but its pretty hard to get other parties to outlay cash to invest in the club when the other party wont. A sole owner going forward is the best decision for the club. Its wholly their investment now...and if run as a business the main point would be to make it as valuable as possible...rather than seeing it as an investment vehicle to drive profits to the local game.
Personally I am really happy, I never wanted the ARL back involved with the team. They fucked it up once and shouldnt have even tried to go again. It honestly sounds like they damn near fucked it up again. Best intentions are like thoughts and prayers, they never do any good and often get in the way of the people that have the skills and really want to make a difference.
I dont know if Autex is the golden goose that the club needs, but i honestly believe that the ARL was the one it didnt.
 

BeastMode

Warriors 1st Grader
Mar 7, 2015
9,265
Yes but its pretty hard to get other parties to outlay cash to invest in the club when the other party wont. A sole owner going forward is the best decision for the club. Its wholly their investment now...and if run as a business the main point would be to make it as valuable as possible...rather than seeing it as an investment vehicle to drive profits to the local game.

If it’s seen as a business, then Mt W will be happy when they start selling new jersey’s every week...

But I agree. Part I of the new process is first getting rid of the ARL then start working your way down ....
 
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Dunedin warrior

1st Grade Fringe
Nov 10, 2014
1,155
Autex have had a year of part ownership so they know what they are getting into. I’m hoping they know that owning a NRL club isn’t a cash cow. They are obviously passionate about rugby league in NZ and it’s a successful company. Cautiously optimistic, but recognize success won’t happen overnight with our current players and coach.
 

mrblonde

Warriors 1st Grader
Apr 14, 2012
4,113
Auckland
Name me a new bloke in management that hasn't come with the mantra of 'holding people accountable.' At this point it is just what you say to get people on board.

Hopefully it means something coming from an owner.

Fair point. Words are a lot less expensive than actions.

But at least he's not shooting his mouth off like Mick Watson did once or twice. It's a bit embarrassing when a club owner shoots off about "Player A's crap, he's outta here!", publically slagging off players, etc only to find that A) The new player is the same or worse quality-wise B) The new player is more expensive than the old player C) You have to chip in to your old's player's deal at his new club.

For example, Robinson may absolutely think Kearney's a turkey. But he's not going to publically say that until he finds a coach he strongly believes isn't. It has to be "believes" rather than "knows" as those are already signed up...


Sometimes "Think carefully. Then speak. Slowly." is a rule a lot of owners don't follow.
 

Akkerz

1st Grade Fringe
Contributor
Jun 22, 2012
1,105
The edge of insanity
As much as I feel the warm sensation of someone pissing on my leg,I feel that as long as the head coach and his merry band of cohorts are left at the helm. I’m afraid in answer to your statement my answer is an emphatic NO. Autex,yes,the rest less so

Quite agree with your statement about the coach & his lap dogs but I'm betting that Robinson has seen enough of them to realize they need to go asap.
His history with Pt Chev may give them a bit of leeway but he's a businessman & successful businessmen don't play to lose.
The awful thought occurred that Autex might make Stacey the Head coach. Oh Shit No No No
 

wrighty

Guest
I don't see Autex owning the Warriors from more than three years tops. It makes no sense for a business to be the owner of a sports franchise. A sponsor of a team is fine. But actually owning the Warriors requires some of their management attention be invested on league instead of running Autex enterprises.
"Autex is a New Zealand-based manufacturing and product development company specialising in textiles and advanced fibre technology "
Any company should only acquire another company/organisation if it helps their existing business in some way. There is no correlation between league and textiles and advanced fibre technology.

In addition by the sounds of the early whispers in this thread:
1) Corvo maybe leaving because he had a big salary
2) Mt Wellington describing members of staff not being replaced
3) Their backing of the goofball GM Cameron "the phone is running hot" George
4) Inaccurately stating that mostly SK didn't choose this team

things may get worse during their reign. That is speculation only however. On the upside after finishing 13th any change at the top is welcome.
 

BeastMode

Warriors 1st Grader
Mar 7, 2015
9,265
I don't see Autex owning the Warriors from more than three years tops. It makes no sense for a business to be the owner of a sports franchise. A sponsor of a team is fine. But actually owning the Warriors requires some of their management attention be invested on league instead of running Autex enterprises.
"Autex is a New Zealand-based manufacturing and product development company specialising in textiles and advanced fibre technology "
Any company should only acquire another company/organisation if it helps their existing business in some way. There is no correlation between league and textiles and advanced fibre technology.

In addition by the sounds of the early whispers in this thread:
1) Corvo maybe leaving because he had a big salary
2) Mt Wellington describing members of staff not being replaced
3) Their backing of the goofball GM Cameron "the phone is running hot" George
4) Inaccurately stating that mostly SK didn't choose this team

things may get worse during their reign. That is speculation only however. On the upside after finishing 13th any change at the top is welcome.

Honestly, this is a great post!! .

Someone that sees the obvious !!

Textile manufacturing company and Rugby League club have absolutely nothing in common!
 
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wizards rage

Warriors 1st Grader
Apr 18, 2016
5,064
Tauranga
Honestly, this is a great post!! .

Someone that sees the obvious !!

Textile manufacturing company and Rugby League club have absolutely nothing in common!
Businesses cannot easily transfer to new areas but a person can. Leadership is a transferable skill. Robinson is passionate and will put management teams in both that he trusts so he’s not involved day to day.

He might need to cut back on his golf but I’m picking he still gets plenty of rounds in...
 

WA supporter

1st Grade Fringe
Contributor
Mar 18, 2017
501
Perth
I don't see Autex owning the Warriors from more than three years tops. It makes no sense for a business to be the owner of a sports franchise. A sponsor of a team is fine. But actually owning the Warriors requires some of their management attention be invested on league instead of running Autex enterprises.
"Autex is a New Zealand-based manufacturing and product development company specialising in textiles and advanced fibre technology "
Any company should only acquire another company/organisation if it helps their existing business in some way. There is no correlation between league and textiles and advanced fibre technology
I disagree with your statement that. ‘It makes no sense for business to be the owner of a sports franchise’. Why? Should a lawyer then by your reckoning shouldn’t be a Prime Minister nor a farmer or union hack etc. I don’t know the Robinson family personally but I do know they’ve ponied up the cash for a number of years for the Kiwi so they get my tick of approval. The Penn family own the Manly Sea Eagles (to the best of my knowledge). Someone also mentioned R Crowe! No damage there? If fact both of their teams have won GF in the last past 8 years.
 

snake77

Warriors 1st Grader
Jul 12, 2013
10,084
Auckland
Have have been involved with league for a while now as sponsors or with the Autex House.

Yes it is a business owning the club but it is more the two main guys from that business. Remember a lot of people have director roles on a lot of businesses their roles at the Warriors would be similar to that. They have staff to attend to the main day to day stuff. They will attend board meetings and approve additional funding.

It would be different if it was a company that had public share holders to keep happy. Or were branching out into a different line of business. This is more the responsibly of the owners. They probably have reasons for having it under the business instead of themselves or creating a new partnership between them for this venture.
 

wrighty

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The Penn family own the Manly Sea Eagles (to the best of my knowledge). Someone also mentioned R Crowe! No damage there? If fact both of their teams have won GF in the last past 8 years.
Owners of sports teams should be high wealth individuals or monied families. Not businesses using company finances which could be better deployed pursuing internal investment opportunities inside Autex or the business concerned.
People Bill Gates are welcome to own as many sports teams as he likes out of his personal wealth, but it would be improper from a corporate strategy and fundamentals of business perspective for Microsoft to own a sports franchise.

I didn't follow the first part of your post about a lawyer becoming a prime minister. Individuals can do what they will, companies less so. Companies to be successful must follow certain key theories or they will fail. Private companies have more leeway but are still bound to maximise shareholder wealth.
 

playdaball

Heritage Member
Apr 23, 2012
2,574
Autex should make a statement early on ... sack someone, bring in someone ... shake it up !
 
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Tragic

1st Grade Fringe
Apr 27, 2016
4,640
Kumeu
Owners of sports teams should be high wealth individuals or monied families.
Isnt Autex a privately owned company? Whats the difference between the family owning autex and autex owning the warriors vs the family owning the warriors directly? Probably better for tax the way it is structured as losses in the warriors can accrue against profits from other parts of the company.
 

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