General An Email To and Response from Jim Doyle

DavidMcKay1974

Warriors 1st Grader
Aug 28, 2013
4,189
Not sure where to post this but I'll start a thread anyways. After the Storm game I was so angry I wrote an email to Jim Doyle, not really knowing if I was going to get an email back, but I received it today about a week and a bit after I sent it.

So here goes. This was before the full story of the 6 came out.

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My Email

Hi Mr. Doyle.

My first ever time emailing to a big wig like yourself so it's daunting, but I'm going to give it a try.

This week I bet you'd like to see over real fast.

I know you've been dealing with the fallout from the Storm game, and then the fallout from the 6 guys getting dropped, and I know you have a lot more stuff going on than having to deal with countless email after email from pissed off fans.

I've been supporting this team from day 1, back then I was real young, 20-21 so I took the good with the good, and the bad with the bad. They were the only kiwi team in the NRL and I had my favorite teams, Manly for 1 because of Matthew Ridge, and the Green Machine, Canberra because of all the big guys, but once the Warriors came on board, I was happy to stick with them.

I have stuck with them the whole 21 years. Through good times, and bad times, through great come back wins, and the losses. Boy the losses especially the big ones hurt.

But it didn't hurt as much as it did last Monday. They simply in my eyes gave up. How could they give up Jim? How could they? How dare they? On a special day like Anzac day. The troops never give up on us, but the Warriors gave up that day.

Like I said I'm a big supporter. When they lost I use to back them to my friends, and say they'll come right, and usually the do. And I use to stick up for them. But that all changed when they simply gave up.

And then what happened mid week. Especially after a tough loss. I can't believe Bodene was one of those players. He was in form and just getting back from injury. He was one of not very many who looked like he didn't give up on Monday.

I have a feeling there's more to the Manu situation which is less than what is being broadcasted according to his reactions, there's more to it. But come on he's a great player, but has lost his way.

Everyone is sick of Konrad, so I won't go on with that topic.

I believe it when you say you're doing your best to sort things out, and boy I sure as hope that what's happened this week hasn't put a sour taste in your mouth, and you won't jump ship.

We need you Jim. We need you.

You've been the best thing to happen for the Warriors in years.

Anyway rant's over.

I'm sure you have heard more than your fair share this week.

I'll keep backing this team, but I lost a little bit of hope after Monday, then Wednesday. I hope the team plays well tomorrow.

Thanks

David McKay

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Jim Doyle's reply this morning

Hi David


Thank you for your email


It sounds like we are very similar


Like you I have supported the Warriors since the start in 1995.

Although I am obviously a Scotsman with my accent, but I have been here since Jan 1994 and have season tickets at Mt Smart when the Warriors started.


I have also watched them during the up’s and the down’s and although disappointed when they have lost I have always stuck by them and supported them.


On Monday night’s ANZAC game I was EMBARRASED

Like you I could not understand how our players could give up


We have been working so hard to put in place a culture of pride and professionalism in order to create a club that everyone can be proud of and THAT is what we got in return.


As you have seen since then we have addressed all the team, made some tough decisions based on our new standards and no doubt sent a very big message to our players that we will not accept anything less than professionalism in line with our new standards.


Even though this week has been tough I believe it could be something we look back on and see as a step that helped the club on its journey to get to the position that win or lose we are all proud.


I can assure you we will do whatever it takes to get this club to reach the heights that we all believe we can and again most importantly be a club that no matter whether we win or lose we are still proud to support the team


Regards

Jim

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He didn't have to reply but he did.
 

Lets Gone

1st Grade Fringe
Aug 22, 2015
343
Not sure where to post this but I'll start a thread anyways. After the Storm game I was so angry I wrote an email to Jim Doyle, not really knowing if I was going to get an email back, but I received it today about a week and a bit after I sent it.

So here goes. This was before the full story of the 6 came out.

------------------------------------------------
My Email

Hi Mr. Doyle.

My first ever time emailing to a big wig like yourself so it's daunting, but I'm going to give it a try.

This week I bet you'd like to see over real fast.

I know you've been dealing with the fallout from the Storm game, and then the fallout from the 6 guys getting dropped, and I know you have a lot more stuff going on than having to deal with countless email after email from pissed off fans.

I've been supporting this team from day 1, back then I was real young, 20-21 so I took the good with the good, and the bad with the bad. They were the only kiwi team in the NRL and I had my favorite teams, Manly for 1 because of Matthew Ridge, and the Green Machine, Canberra because of all the big guys, but once the Warriors came on board, I was happy to stick with them.

I have stuck with them the whole 21 years. Through good times, and bad times, through great come back wins, and the losses. Boy the losses especially the big ones hurt.

But it didn't hurt as much as it did last Monday. They simply in my eyes gave up. How could they give up Jim? How could they? How dare they? On a special day like Anzac day. The troops never give up on us, but the Warriors gave up that day.

Like I said I'm a big supporter. When they lost I use to back them to my friends, and say they'll come right, and usually the do. And I use to stick up for them. But that all changed when they simply gave up.

And then what happened mid week. Especially after a tough loss. I can't believe Bodene was one of those players. He was in form and just getting back from injury. He was one of not very many who looked like he didn't give up on Monday.

I have a feeling there's more to the Manu situation which is less than what is being broadcasted according to his reactions, there's more to it. But come on he's a great player, but has lost his way.

Everyone is sick of Konrad, so I won't go on with that topic.

I believe it when you say you're doing your best to sort things out, and boy I sure as hope that what's happened this week hasn't put a sour taste in your mouth, and you won't jump ship.

We need you Jim. We need you.

You've been the best thing to happen for the Warriors in years.

Anyway rant's over.

I'm sure you have heard more than your fair share this week.

I'll keep backing this team, but I lost a little bit of hope after Monday, then Wednesday. I hope the team plays well tomorrow.

Thanks

David McKay

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jim Doyle's reply this morning

Hi David


Thank you for your email


It sounds like we are very similar


Like you I have supported the Warriors since the start in 1995.

Although I am obviously a Scotsman with my accent, but I have been here since Jan 1994 and have season tickets at Mt Smart when the Warriors started.


I have also watched them during the up’s and the down’s and although disappointed when they have lost I have always stuck by them and supported them.


On Monday night’s ANZAC game I was EMBARRASED

Like you I could not understand how our players could give up


We have been working so hard to put in place a culture of pride and professionalism in order to create a club that everyone can be proud of and THAT is what we got in return.


As you have seen since then we have addressed all the team, made some tough decisions based on our new standards and no doubt sent a very big message to our players that we will not accept anything less than professionalism in line with our new standards.


Even though this week has been tough I believe it could be something we look back on and see as a step that helped the club on its journey to get to the position that win or lose we are all proud.


I can assure you we will do whatever it takes to get this club to reach the heights that we all believe we can and again most importantly be a club that no matter whether we win or lose we are still proud to support the team


Regards

Jim

------------------------------------

He didn't have to reply but he did.
Awesome, thanks for sharing!!!
 

Dixpat

All in the Brown stuff!
Contributor
Feb 3, 2014
1,886
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made some tough decisions based on our new standards and no doubt sent a very big message to our players that we will not accept anything less than professionalism in line with our new standards.

A good letter David and big ups to JD for his response , but..........

his response reads as if the standards were only just brought in --"new standards"

I would feel more comfortable if the reply was "..based on the standards players agreed to at the start of the season....in line with our standards"
 

Horriors2013

1st Grade Fringe
May 24, 2013
2,121
Not sure where to post this but I'll start a thread anyways. After the Storm game I was so angry I wrote an email to Jim Doyle, not really knowing if I was going to get an email back, but I received it today about a week and a bit after I sent it.

So here goes. This was before the full story of the 6 came out.

------------------------------------------------
My Email

Hi Mr. Doyle.

My first ever time emailing to a big wig like yourself so it's daunting, but I'm going to give it a try.

This week I bet you'd like to see over real fast.

I know you've been dealing with the fallout from the Storm game, and then the fallout from the 6 guys getting dropped, and I know you have a lot more stuff going on than having to deal with countless email after email from pissed off fans.

I've been supporting this team from day 1, back then I was real young, 20-21 so I took the good with the good, and the bad with the bad. They were the only kiwi team in the NRL and I had my favorite teams, Manly for 1 because of Matthew Ridge, and the Green Machine, Canberra because of all the big guys, but once the Warriors came on board, I was happy to stick with them.

I have stuck with them the whole 21 years. Through good times, and bad times, through great come back wins, and the losses. Boy the losses especially the big ones hurt.

But it didn't hurt as much as it did last Monday. They simply in my eyes gave up. How could they give up Jim? How could they? How dare they? On a special day like Anzac day. The troops never give up on us, but the Warriors gave up that day.

Like I said I'm a big supporter. When they lost I use to back them to my friends, and say they'll come right, and usually the do. And I use to stick up for them. But that all changed when they simply gave up.

And then what happened mid week. Especially after a tough loss. I can't believe Bodene was one of those players. He was in form and just getting back from injury. He was one of not very many who looked like he didn't give up on Monday.

I have a feeling there's more to the Manu situation which is less than what is being broadcasted according to his reactions, there's more to it. But come on he's a great player, but has lost his way.

Everyone is sick of Konrad, so I won't go on with that topic.

I believe it when you say you're doing your best to sort things out, and boy I sure as hope that what's happened this week hasn't put a sour taste in your mouth, and you won't jump ship.

We need you Jim. We need you.

You've been the best thing to happen for the Warriors in years.

Anyway rant's over.

I'm sure you have heard more than your fair share this week.

I'll keep backing this team, but I lost a little bit of hope after Monday, then Wednesday. I hope the team plays well tomorrow.

Thanks

David McKay

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jim Doyle's reply this morning

Hi David


Thank you for your email


It sounds like we are very similar


Like you I have supported the Warriors since the start in 1995.

Although I am obviously a Scotsman with my accent, but I have been here since Jan 1994 and have season tickets at Mt Smart when the Warriors started.


I have also watched them during the up’s and the down’s and although disappointed when they have lost I have always stuck by them and supported them.


On Monday night’s ANZAC game I was EMBARRASED

Like you I could not understand how our players could give up


We have been working so hard to put in place a culture of pride and professionalism in order to create a club that everyone can be proud of and THAT is what we got in return.


As you have seen since then we have addressed all the team, made some tough decisions based on our new standards and no doubt sent a very big message to our players that we will not accept anything less than professionalism in line with our new standards.


Even though this week has been tough I believe it could be something we look back on and see as a step that helped the club on its journey to get to the position that win or lose we are all proud.


I can assure you we will do whatever it takes to get this club to reach the heights that we all believe we can and again most importantly be a club that no matter whether we win or lose we are still proud to support the team


Regards

Jim

------------------------------------

He didn't have to reply but he did.

I'm confused. You said you sent it a week and a bit ago. But you mention in the email:

"I'll keep backing this team, but I lost a little bit of hope after Monday, then Wednesday."

And the tone of the sentence is as though you're looking back at Wednesday.

Are you taking the piss?
 
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imallrin

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Mar 6, 2016
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I'm confused. You said you sent it a week and a bit ago. But you mention in the email:

"I'll keep backing this team, but I lost a little bit of hope after Monday, then Wednesday."

And the tone of the sentence is as though you're looking back at Wednesday.

Are you taking the piss?
thats exactly what i was thinking, Warriors played storm Mon 25th, news broke in media about 6 players getting dropped Fri 29th, it sounds like you sent the email yesterday (you said "last monday") and got a reply within one day OR this is complete rubbish which i am leaning towards!
 

tajhay

Negative Nancy
Mar 30, 2012
10,546
Sydney
After the Storm game I was so angry I wrote an email to Jim Doyle, not really knowing if I was going to get an email back, but I received it today about a week and a bit after I sent it.
thats exactly what i was thinking, Warriors played storm Mon 25th, news broke in media about 6 players getting dropped Fri 29th, it sounds like you sent the email yesterday (you said "last monday") and got a reply within one day OR this is complete rubbish which i am leaning towards!
I'm confused. You said you sent it a week and a bit ago. But you mention in the email:

He seems to have the days mixed up as he didnt get the email address to send the email to until 30th, the day before the Dragons game. It definitely was not send over a week ago.

Proof:
https://www.nzwarriors.com/threads/ask-jim-doyle.48684/page-2#post-580925

Never the less, nice email and nice of him to reply. Well done.
 

Sup42

Warriors 1st Grader
May 7, 2012
24,007
Davids a solid poster, always sticks up for the Warriors, he would have just got his phrasing wrong.....he probably measures time in the same way a lot of middle aged shift workers do ( im one of those I say a week ago....then someone sensible says 'its Monday and that happened last Friday, three days ago.....).

Great email from Jim, especially given the timing.

Thanks for sharing.
 
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snake77

Warriors 1st Grader
Jul 12, 2013
10,196
Auckland
Good to see Doyle took the time to reply and it wasn't a reply that reads like one that was prepared to copy and paste for situations like this. The personal bits seemed like he took time to actually think through a reply and take time to do it.

Reminds me of the guy that used to run the Nevada State Athletic Commission. He has a busy job administering rules for boxing and MMA. He had tons of MMA fans writing him about drug testing rules etc and even though he was busy and had big issues to deal with he'd take the time to reply and clarify things.

Also like the bit Doyle mentioned about being embarrassed and could not understand why the players appeared to give up. Owen Glenn made a similar comment. Doyle I can see acting on this; which most likely mean finding players that compete for 80 minutes.
 
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DavidMcKay1974

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Aug 28, 2013
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I'm confused. You said you sent it a week and a bit ago. But you mention in the email:

"I'll keep backing this team, but I lost a little bit of hope after Monday, then Wednesday."

And the tone of the sentence is as though you're looking back at Wednesday.

Are you taking the piss?

Sorry just got back in from work and now I can reply. The whole week seemed to drag by like it felt like a real long time, I actually emailed Saturday 30th April, and received it today. It did feel like I sent it like sometime during last week, as it was a whole blur to me, as what was happening with the team was like one big mess after another from Monday until Sunday, so I apologize for what I was meaning. And yes I got Jim's reply this morning, so it took four days to come.

And no I'm not taking the piss, just got my days mixed up. Sorry.
 

Diesel

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Nov 7, 2014
1,864
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Sorry just got back in from work and now I can reply. The whole week seemed to drag by like it felt like a real long time, I actually emailed Saturday 30th April, and received it today. It did feel like I sent it like sometime during last week, as it was a whole blur to me, as what was happening with the team was like one big mess after another from Monday until Sunday, so I apologize for what I was meaning. And yes I got Jim's reply this morning, so it took four days to come.

And no I'm not taking the piss, just got my days mixed up. Sorry.
I wouldn't apologise. I think it's great you came on here with your email to JD and the reply.
 
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drake83

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Jan 14, 2013
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I like how he was embarrassed by there performance on anzac day. I was embarrassed by my kids and Mrs giving me shit about supporting these guys years in and out.
Hopefully this is the turning point but I don't know how many times I have said that(probably the same amount as we have had a great off season the boys are fit this is our year)
 

Miket12

Warriors 1st Grader
Apr 20, 2012
10,606
Great email David and even better reply. It's nice to know there's a passion for the club and player safety and acknowledgement of the fans from the top - and not just jersey sales.

And brightman brightman, try reading after a few single malts, the Scottish accent for David's part will come then ;)
 

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