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razzrillinger

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brightman

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Will be interesting to see if guys like Valentine Holmes, Corey Norman, Jahrome Hughes and Jordan McLean turn out for the Maori All Stars.

And will Packer play even though he has retired from Internationals?

Should be a good game, definitely got me more likely to watch with this change up.
If the NRL seriously want this to be a showcase event then those stars will need to play, problem is it then muddies the Kangaroo eligibility and brings SOO selection that much closer to foreigners being included.
All the better for International RL either way..
 

razzrillinger

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Nov 8, 2016
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If the NRL seriously want this to be a showcase event then those stars will need to play, problem is it then muddies the Kangaroo eligibility and brings SOO selection that much closer to foreigners being included.
All the better for International RL either way..

Hopefully it's treated completely separately from Internationals/SOO etc and there are no eligibility requirements apart from being of that heritage.

I see Tamou was mentioned specifically and Josh Hoffman has played for both the Kiwis and Indigenous All Stars before.

Not sure why the "Australian" and "New Zealand" words even need to be in the names to be honest?
 

mt.wellington

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New Zealand Maori side to face Indigenous All Stars in 2019
Michael Chammas Chief Reporter
Mon 20 Aug 2018, 11:58 AM

An All-Star New Zealand Maori team will square off against the Australian Indigenous All Stars in a mens and womens double-header in Melbourne next February to open the 2019 NRL season.

The NRL has revamped the All Stars concept after a one-year break following last year's World Cup, replacing the World All Stars with a New Zealand Maori side to add some passion, culture and tribalism to the event which started in 2010.

The match, which will be played at AAMI Park on Friday, February 15, will pin the likes of Newcastle superstar Kalyn Ponga up against Greg Inglis and for the first time will also include a women's match with the same teams.

South Sydney centre Dane Gagai is one of four players eligible for both teams (along with Reimis Smith, Javid Bowen and Josh Hoffman) and will have to pledge his allegiance to one of the teams in the coming months before the January voting window.

One of the criticisms of the original All Stars concept was the lack of motivation for the World All Stars in comparison to the Indigenous side, with a large number of players withdrawing from the match.

There was also a lack of interest from fans in supporting the World All Stars, but there will be no such concerns with a Maori team, especially when you consider the number of Kiwis living in Melbourne.

thurtsonj-lap-17021045.jpg

Johnathan Thurston captained the Indigenous All Stars in 2017.
The NRL had every intention of reviving the Indigenous All Stars, and they used this year's hiatus to research and survey fans and players about the match in order to improve the spectacle and ensure more people feel connected to the match.

The least supported concept was the original World All Stars team, with the New Zealand Maori side earning greater support than a Pacific All Stars team combining players from Tonga, Samoa, Papua New Guinea and Fiji.

There were some cultural sensitivities around a potential combined Pacific team which also contributed to the decision to appoint a NZ Maori team.

The pre-game Maori haka and Indigenous war cry will be a feature of the event.

Some of the biggest names eligible for the New Zealand Maori team include Ponga, Gagai, Jordan Rapana, Corey Norman, Valentine Holmes, Issac Luke, Jordan McLean and James Tamou.

Gagai, Tamou and McLean are the three players who have represented Australia at Test level eligible for the New Zealand Maori team.

The Indigenous side is blessed with a wealth of riches in the backline, with fans to choose from the likes of Inglis, Gagai, Josh Addo-Carr, James Roberts, Latrell Mitchell, Will Chambers, Blake Ferguson, Alex Johnston, Tyrone Peachey and Jack Wighton.

It could also be a farewell game for the likes of Johnathan Thurston and Sam Thaiday, who will both retire at the end of this season.

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Indigenous All Stars v World All Stars (Hls)

It's expected Laurie Daley will continue as coach of the Indigenous side but it is undecided who will take control of the inaugural Maori team in the battle for the Preston Campbell Trophy.

It will be the first time the All Stars game will be played in Melbourne having previously been hosted in Brisbane, Newcastle and the Gold Coast.

The NRL has a one-year deal with the Victorian government to stage the event as part of a commitment to the region to build the sport, however with new stadiums in Townsville and western Sydney to open in the next 12 months, the match could move to another state in 2020.

A two-week voting window will open to fans in January, while tickets for the match go on sale to members today and general public on Tuesday.

Potential Indigenous All Stars team
1. Greg Inglis, 2. Josh Addo-Carr, 3. Latrell Mitchell, 4. James Roberts, 5. Dane Gagai, 6. Cody Walker, 7. Johnathan Thurston/Ash Taylor, 8. Andrew Fifita, 9. Nathan Peats, 10. Ryan James, 11. Joel Thompson, 12. Wade Graham, 13. Jack Bird. Reserves: 14. Tyrone Peachey, 15. Sam Thaiday, 16. Adam Elliott, 17. David Fifita.

Other big names eligibile: Will Chambers, Jack Wighton, Blake Ferguson, Alex Johnston, Bevan French, Connor Watson, Aiden Sezer, Corey Thompson

Potential New Zealand Maori team
1. Kalyn Ponga, 2. Jordan Rapana, 3. Dylan Walker, 4. Dean Whare, 5. Valentine Holmes, 6. Corey Norman, 7. Benji Marshall, 8. Jesse Bromwich, 9. Issac Luke, 10. Jordan McLean, 11. Tohu Harris, 12. Corey Harawira-Naera, 13. Elijah Taylor. Reserves: 14. Kodi Nikorima, 15. James Tamou, 16. Joseph Tapine, 17. Russell Packer.

Other big names eligible: Adam Blair, James Fisher-Harris, Shaun Kenny-Dowall, Jordan Kahu, Dallin Watene-Zelezniak, Kevin Proctor

https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/08/20...ealand-maori-clash-with-indigenous-all-stars/
 

Old Sid

1st Grade Fringe
Nov 8, 2014
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Generally against race based teams but that would be of more interest to me than the world all stars team
Has it been made clear how far down the heritage you can go to qualify.... parents, grandparents...further?

Call me a sceptic if you like but I smell another NRL reactionary rat here..., there is apparently no room for the Nines, but we still have room for an indigenous game. I'm suspicious that it's a cover up for the lack of genuine interest in the All Stars game, with teams not wanting to risk their best players during pre-season.

What does a game like this really achieve pre-season, other than perhaps a dose of Australian-led political correctness. It is certainly very disruptive to season preparation. So, why not have it at season end, for those indigenous folks either side of the Tasman (and from ESL) not involved in the end of season International scene. That would fill in a post final weekend when others are being rested and allow the entire off season to get over any unfortunate game related injuries. It would also allow for a final swan song for retirees.

At best, I'd like to see the eligibility rules made very clear before the planning goes any further, otherwise it will just become a real cluster.
 

BeastMode

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Mar 7, 2015
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Why is it NZ Maori and not just Maori Warriors?

Maori Warriors sounds mean.

Play for Australia and then NZ Maori is kinda silly. Pick a country and stick with it!
 
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Wellington Warrior

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May 15, 2012
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I couldn’t give a flying f**k about the All stars concept as it was...

Now i’m still not that into the new version... my biggest worry would be that the Warriors put up a number of top line players because of the new concept risking injury for a meaningless match.

P.s. I now see Kaylin Ponga wants to play for the All Blacks if he played rugby... LOL
 

W.A warrior

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Nov 8, 2014
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Will be interesting to see if guys like Valentine Holmes, Corey Norman, Jahrome Hughes and Jordan McLean turn out for the Maori All Stars.

And will Packer play even though he has retired from Internationals?

Should be a good game, definitely got me more likely to watch with this change up.

Has Hughes committed to Australia?

Would be another blow, was thinking he would partner Johnson in the halves at the end of the year.
 
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Boats n Hoes

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Potential New Zealand Maori team
1. Kalyn Ponga, 2. Jordan Rapana, 3. Dylan Walker, 4. Dean Whare, 5. Valentine Holmes, 6. Corey Norman, 7. Benji Marshall, 8. Jesse Bromwich, 9. Issac Luke, 10. Jordan McLean, 11. Tohu Harris, 12. Corey Harawira-Naera, 13. Elijah Taylor. Reserves: 14. Kodi Nikorima, 15. James Tamou, 16. Joseph Tapine, 17. Russell Packer.

Other big names eligible: Adam Blair, James Fisher-Harris, Shaun Kenny-Dowall, Jordan Kahu, Dallin Watene-Zelezniak, Kevin Proctor

https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/08/20...ealand-maori-clash-with-indigenous-all-stars/

Wow.

Stronger line up than the last kiwi's team tbh.
 

BeastMode

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New Zealand Maori side to face Indigenous All Stars in 2019
Michael Chammas Chief Reporter
Mon 20 Aug 2018, 11:58 AM

An All-Star New Zealand Maori team will square off against the Australian Indigenous All Stars in a mens and womens double-header in Melbourne next February to open the 2019 NRL season.

The NRL has revamped the All Stars concept after a one-year break following last year's World Cup, replacing the World All Stars with a New Zealand Maori side to add some passion, culture and tribalism to the event which started in 2010.

The match, which will be played at AAMI Park on Friday, February 15, will pin the likes of Newcastle superstar Kalyn Ponga up against Greg Inglis and for the first time will also include a women's match with the same teams.

South Sydney centre Dane Gagai is one of four players eligible for both teams (along with Reimis Smith, Javid Bowen and Josh Hoffman) and will have to pledge his allegiance to one of the teams in the coming months before the January voting window.

One of the criticisms of the original All Stars concept was the lack of motivation for the World All Stars in comparison to the Indigenous side, with a large number of players withdrawing from the match.

There was also a lack of interest from fans in supporting the World All Stars, but there will be no such concerns with a Maori team, especially when you consider the number of Kiwis living in Melbourne.

thurtsonj-lap-17021045.jpg

Johnathan Thurston captained the Indigenous All Stars in 2017.
The NRL had every intention of reviving the Indigenous All Stars, and they used this year's hiatus to research and survey fans and players about the match in order to improve the spectacle and ensure more people feel connected to the match.

The least supported concept was the original World All Stars team, with the New Zealand Maori side earning greater support than a Pacific All Stars team combining players from Tonga, Samoa, Papua New Guinea and Fiji.

There were some cultural sensitivities around a potential combined Pacific team which also contributed to the decision to appoint a NZ Maori team.

The pre-game Maori haka and Indigenous war cry will be a feature of the event.

Some of the biggest names eligible for the New Zealand Maori team include Ponga, Gagai, Jordan Rapana, Corey Norman, Valentine Holmes, Issac Luke, Jordan McLean and James Tamou.

Gagai, Tamou and McLean are the three players who have represented Australia at Test level eligible for the New Zealand Maori team.

The Indigenous side is blessed with a wealth of riches in the backline, with fans to choose from the likes of Inglis, Gagai, Josh Addo-Carr, James Roberts, Latrell Mitchell, Will Chambers, Blake Ferguson, Alex Johnston, Tyrone Peachey and Jack Wighton.

It could also be a farewell game for the likes of Johnathan Thurston and Sam Thaiday, who will both retire at the end of this season.

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Indigenous All Stars v World All Stars (Hls)

It's expected Laurie Daley will continue as coach of the Indigenous side but it is undecided who will take control of the inaugural Maori team in the battle for the Preston Campbell Trophy.

It will be the first time the All Stars game will be played in Melbourne having previously been hosted in Brisbane, Newcastle and the Gold Coast.

The NRL has a one-year deal with the Victorian government to stage the event as part of a commitment to the region to build the sport, however with new stadiums in Townsville and western Sydney to open in the next 12 months, the match could move to another state in 2020.

A two-week voting window will open to fans in January, while tickets for the match go on sale to members today and general public on Tuesday.

Potential Indigenous All Stars team
1. Greg Inglis, 2. Josh Addo-Carr, 3. Latrell Mitchell, 4. James Roberts, 5. Dane Gagai, 6. Cody Walker, 7. Johnathan Thurston/Ash Taylor, 8. Andrew Fifita, 9. Nathan Peats, 10. Ryan James, 11. Joel Thompson, 12. Wade Graham, 13. Jack Bird. Reserves: 14. Tyrone Peachey, 15. Sam Thaiday, 16. Adam Elliott, 17. David Fifita.

Other big names eligibile: Will Chambers, Jack Wighton, Blake Ferguson, Alex Johnston, Bevan French, Connor Watson, Aiden Sezer, Corey Thompson

Potential New Zealand Maori team
1. Kalyn Ponga, 2. Jordan Rapana, 3. Dylan Walker, 4. Dean Whare, 5. Valentine Holmes, 6. Corey Norman, 7. Benji Marshall, 8. Jesse Bromwich, 9. Issac Luke, 10. Jordan McLean, 11. Tohu Harris, 12. Corey Harawira-Naera, 13. Elijah Taylor. Reserves: 14. Kodi Nikorima, 15. James Tamou, 16. Joseph Tapine, 17. Russell Packer.

Other big names eligible: Adam Blair, James Fisher-Harris, Shaun Kenny-Dowall, Jordan Kahu, Dallin Watene-Zelezniak, Kevin Proctor

https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/08/20...ealand-maori-clash-with-indigenous-all-stars/

I think this concept is racist to white people.
 

OMG

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May 18, 2012
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Churchur
Awesome will be a great game to go to, would love to see both teams play Mate Ma'a

My team

1. Holmes
2. Rapana
3. Gagai/ Hughes
4. Walker
5. Reimeis Smith
6. Ponga
7. Nikorima
8. Maclean
9. Luke
10. Bromwhich
11. Harris
12. Tapine
13 JFH
14. Brandon Smith
15. Packer
16. CHN
17. Proctor
 
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mt.wellington

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Jun 21, 2012
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MEDIA RELEASE

Train-on squads announced ahead of 2019 All Stars match
NRL Media Release NRL Media
Tue 6 Nov 2018, 04:30 PM

The Hrvey Norman NRL Women’s All Stars squads have been announced, ahead of the match in February 2019 in Melbourne.

A host of players from this year’s Test Match, Origin and Premiership have been named, including reigning Dally M Female Player of the Year, Brittany Breayley (for the New Zealand team) and the 2018 Australian Prime Minister’s XIII captain, Rebecca Young (for the Indigenous team).

NRL Indigenous Pathways Manager, Dean Widders said both teams were excited to be participating in the match.


“It was an incredible atmosphere and thrilling first-time win in Newcastle for the women’s Indigenous team back in 2017 and I know in speaking with the players that I’ve been in contact with, they can’t wait to represent their people in a jersey that means so much to them,” Mr Widders said.

“The All Stars matches have always been popular as part of the rugby league calendar and fans won’t be disappointed when the teams take to the field at AAMI Park in February next year.”

Tickets are on sale for the All Stars matches, with adult tickets from $20 and family passes from $50. Tickets are available at nrl.com/tickets.

2019 Harvey Norman NRL All Stars women's train-on squads

Indigenous All Stars

Akayla McQuire
Amber Pilley
Rebecca Young
Caitlan Johnston
Chloe Caldwell
Jenni-Sue Hoepper
Kandy Kennedy
Kazzia Lammon
Kyara Nean
Latoniya Norris
Lavina O’Mealey
Lavina Robinson
Layla Fauid
Majayda Darcy
Ngalika Barker
Quincy Dodd
Rebecca Ford
Regan Hart
Rhiannon Revell-Blair
Samartha Leisha
Sarah Field
Shakiah Tungai
Sharon McGrady
Shaylee Bent
Stephanie Mooka
Tahlia Hunter
Taleena Simon
Tallisha Harden
Terri-Ann Caine
Tommaya Kelly-Sines

New Zealand Maori Ferns

Amber Kani
Animei Skudder
Arneta Honey Hireme
Autumn-Rain Stephens
Awhina Marsh
Botille Vette-Walsh
Brittany Breayley
Crystal Stowers
Crystal Tamarua
Faith (Philly) Rapana
Geneva Webber
Harata (Charlette) Butler
Hilda Mariu
Jonsal Tautari
Kahurangi Peters
Karley Te Kawa
Kararaina Wira-Kohu
Kathy Keremete
Krystal Rota
Lisa Edwards-Rua
Raecene McGregor
Raquel Anderson-Pitman
Rona Peters
Tahina Heta
Tanika-Jazz Noble-Bell
Tazmin Gray
Te Aroha Hapuku
Tori Iosefo
Tyler Birch
Zahara Temara

https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/11/06/train-on-squads-announced-ahead-of-2019-all-stars-match/
 
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