Player Akuma Ta'ai

[Danpatmac]

[troll] You mean the team that ganged up Adam Blair, gave a bloke a 270 tackle and is widely knowen as the most hated team in the nrl?
Or the team that had a player sin binned in their first loss of the season? [/troll]

I'm half and half tbh. If we lost i'd want Ta'ai to join Inu on the norty mat. But we didn't so now i'm kinda glad he went bonkers

The team that ganged up on Adam Blair made life incredibly hard on themselves by being without their best forward for weeks afterwards... yes they did it and nearly put their season in jeopardy, why? For what benefit.
Dumb play like that or Ta'ai's over reaction almost never pays off... and more often than not causes a myriad of problems for the rest of them team.

 

[Miket12]

Here's a quick breakdown of how all the props have gone for the time they've been on the field including Round 10:

Time played:
Matulino, 491 minutes (approx. 4 x 15 minute blocks)
Lousi, 382 minutes (approx. 25.5 x 15 minute blocks)
Packer, 373 minutes (approx. 25 x 15 minute blocks)
Ta'ai, 237 minutes (approx. 16 x 15 minute blocks)
Rapira, 190 minutes (approx. 16 x 15 minute blocks)
Lillyman, 62 minutes (approx. 4 x 15 minute blocks)

Meters Run:
Lillyman ran 41.5m per 15 minute block
Matulino ran 36.2m per 15 minute block
Packer ran 31.2m per 15 minute block
Ta'ai ran 30.9m per 15 minute block
Lousi ran 26.1m per 15 minute block
Rapira ran 18.6m per 15 minute block

Offloads:
Ta'ai averages one offload every 59 minutes of play
Rapira averages one offload every 63 minutes of play
Lousi averages one offload every 64 minutes of play
Matulino averages one offload every 82 minutes of play
Packer averages one offload every 124 minutes of play
Lillyman has yet to offload

Hitups:
Matulino has made 3.4 hitups per 15 minute block
Lillyman has made 3.3 hitups per 15 minute block
Packer has made 2.5 hitups per 15 minute block
Lousi has made 2.5 hitups per 15 minute block
Ta'ai has made 2.4 hitups per 15 minute block
Rapira has made 1.78 hitups per 15 minute block

Errors:
Matulino has made 1 error every 246 minutes of play
Lousi has made 1 error every 191 minutes of play
Packer has made 1 error every 124 minutes of play
Ta'ai has made 1 error every 39 minutes of play
Lillyman & Rapira have yet to make any errors

Tackles:
Ta'ai has made 8.2 tackles per 15 minute block
Packer has made 8.1 tackles per 15 minute block
Lousi has made 7.2 tackles per 15 minute block
Rapira has made 6.5 tackles per 15 minute block
Lillyman has made 5.8 tackles per 15 minute block
Matulino has made 5.7 tackles per 15 minute block

One on One Tackles:
Ta'ai has made 1-on-1 tackle every 21.8 tackles
Packer has made 1-on-1 tackle every 25.3 tackles
Matulino has made 1-on-1 tackle every 26.4 tackles
Rapira has made 1-on-1 tackle every 40.5 tackles
Lousi has made 1-on-1 tackle every 60.7 tackles
Lillyman is yet to amke any 1-on-1 tackles

Missed Tackles:
Lousi has missed a tackle every 64 minutes
Matulino has missed a tackle every 38 minutes
Ta'ai has missed a tackle every 30 minutes
Packer has missed a tackle every 29 minutes
Rapira has missed a tackle every 24 minutes
Lillyman has missed a tackle every 12 minutes

 

[Miket12]

Interestingly, Ta'ai stats have improved over the last few weeks while Lousi's have gotten weaken. It maybe Lousi who is in danger of getting dropped - not Ta'ai

 

[Danpatmac]

Interestingly, Ta'ai stats have improved over the last few weeks while Lousi's have gotten weaken. It maybe Lousi who is in danger of getting dropped - not Ta'ai

looks like Ta'ai has an error every half of football he plays... terrible.

 

[wallacenz]

looks like Ta'ai has an error every half of football he plays... terrible.

he does have a lazy play of the ball in him, much like manu. they struggle and power their way as far as possible, do all the hard work, then switch off putting the ball at their feet.

manu had that lucky call early when he got that penalty for his bad play. then in the last 5 minutes i saw him take a hitup and he made a conscious effort to hold the ball in both hands and put it on the ground to play it. i thought he was going to drop it because he was holding it by the points and it swivelled in his hand, he was obviously too conscious of his bad play of the balls.

 

[gREVUS]

just wanna point out that Taia wasnt the one who conceeded the try. Yes he gave away the penalty that started the passage of play but it was a high kick run in by Minichelo over Jimmy (our back up back up back up FB) that caused points and was caused by something i have been thinking and talking about for a while. There is no cover for our catcher, you look at other top teams and they always have someone to take the runner off his line, last night the roosters did it to Manu, never and i mean NEVER do i see a warriors jumper in front of our reciever as the ball comes down.

Taia should be repremanded for giving the ball away but he should not be held responsible for the try - IMO

 

[gREVUS]

he does have a lazy play of the ball in him, much like manu. they struggle and power their way as far as possible, do all the hard work, then switch off putting the ball at their feet.

manu had that lucky call early when he got that penalty for his bad play. then in the last 5 minutes i saw him take a hitup and he made a conscious effort to hold the ball in both hands and put it on the ground to play it. i thought he was going to drop it because he was holding it by the points and it swivelled in his hand, he was obviously too conscious of his bad play of the balls.

not sure how its manus fault when the opposition dont move back and then use their knee/foot to dislodge the ball as he goes to play it - personally i thought the ref got htis one right

 

[HD]

As for him trying it on with the Roosters forwards, he probably guessed a penalty was coming with all the neck-wrenching grubbery Masoe was giving to him on the ground, but you play to the whistle. If everyone got up pushing and shoving every time someone did something that's illegal they'd be handbags and penalties every set.

Certainly looks a bit shit these days does Ta'ai, not as bad as people are saying, but he isn't adding much, is he? Wouldn't care if he was dropped. I don't buy this enforcer lark. Nobody is scared of him. More often than not I see him crying because somebody has touched his face.

If we want a scary, explosive, mean sum bitch we've already got it in Sam Rapira. If we need another, Mose Masoe will be nuts when he wakes up from his slumber, we should go after him. He comes off contract this year.

 

[Danpatmac]

not sure how its manus fault when the opposition dont move back and then use their knee/foot to dislodge the ball as he goes to play it - personally i thought the ref got htis one right

Totally disagree.
I saw that completely differently. He had little or no ball control and lost it, the defender had no sway on the incident. IMO

Edit:
Just looked at the 'Smart Replay" on NRL.com and it was a Warriors penalty at 46mins, The defender was Mose Masoe, he didn't do anything wrong from what I see and Manu tried to play it too quickly and actually tried to place the ball outside masoe's foot with a loose grip and it came out. Should have been a knock on.

 

[¿N. ig-mah¿]

just wanna point out that Taia wasnt the one who conceeded the try. Yes he gave away the penalty that started the passage of play but it was a high kick run in by Minichelo over Jimmy (our back up back up back up FB) that caused points and was caused by something i have been thinking and talking about for a while. There is no cover for our catcher, you look at other top teams and they always have someone to take the runner off his line, last night the roosters did it to Manu, never and i mean NEVER do i see a warriors jumper in front of our reciever as the ball comes down.

Taia should be repremanded for giving the ball away but he should not be held responsible for the try - IMO

If Ta'ai had played the ball and the set had played out the way it should have, then there is no reason to assume they could get so far downfield to be a chance to score. Ta'ai gave them field position with a stupid penalty. He is the about only person on the planet who didn't think he would get penalised.

 

[Viking]

Totally disagree.
I saw that completely differently. He had little or no ball control and lost it, the defender had no sway on the incident. IMO

Edit:
Just looked at the 'Smart Replay" on NRL.com and it was a Warriors penalty at 46mins, The defender was Mose Masoe, he didn't do anything wrong from what I see and Manu tried to play it too quickly and actually tried to place the ball outside masoe's foot with a loose grip and it came out. Should have been a knock on.

From memory, Manu tried to get a quick play of the ball and Masoe didn't have time to clear the tackle. Manu was entitled to play it as fast as he wanted as he wasn't dominated in the tackle and popped to his feet quickly. Fair penalty IMO.

 

[Danpatmac]

From memory, Manu tried to get a quick play of the ball and Masoe didn't have time to clear the tackle. Manu was entitled to play it as fast as he wanted as he wasn't dominated in the tackle and popped to his feet quickly. Fair penalty IMO.

Manu is required to maintain control of the ball and he didn't, the tackler didn't even make contact.
Masoe was just standing still at marker, in the correct position. It's there to see on the website. Knock on.

https://www.nrl.com/smartReplay/tabid/10910/seasonID/10/roundID/425/matchId/2384/default.aspx

Click on penalties, its 46mins and 17 seconds.

It is as clear as day, Knock on.

 

[gREVUS]

guess you and i just see it differently Manu is entitled to play the ball Masoe was not just standing still at marker he was leaning in on Manu and interfering in the play manu places the ball, he didnt drop it Masoe is at fault

 

[gREVUS]

Actualy i went back and watched it again just to make sure i was being fair, Masoe does actualy kick the ball. his foot is behind him and then as Manu places the ball he toes it as his foot comes forward. Defn a penalty and defn for the Warriors. Masoe clearly moves his foot forward, so unless it is up to Manu to predict where his foot is going to be in relation to the ground as he plays it i really cant see how you can argue this

 

[Danpatmac]

Actualy i went back and watched it again just to make sure i was being fair, Masoe does actualy kick the ball his foot is behind him and then as Manu places the ball he toes it as hit foot comes forward. Defn a penalty and defn for the Warriors. Masoe clearly moves his foot forward, so unless it is up to Manu to predict where his foot is going to be in relation to the ground as he plays it i really cant see how you can argue this

I guess we are just gonna have to disagree.
Thats not how I see it at all.

 

[LoganBear]

After watching the replay, Masoe def. does lead in with the knee, which causes him to kick the ball lose. That's a penalty every day of the week, even if it was partly Manu's fault.

 

[Sup42]

Brilliant. At last Stats that are easy to Follow over more than Isolated Games = actually meaningful comparison with players in his position.

Still , the thing is if you are a Ta'ai fan you will see that he more than competes in several areas of the game.

If you don't have much Ukuma Love, then you will see what i saw....confirmation that he is a butter finger who is three to four times as likely to put his team on the back foot than any other Prop on the list.

Three to four times as likely to give the opposition the ball........

Three to four times as likely.

When you are a Prop and your Role is to catch Pre meditated passes as part of a repetitious sequence that you have practiced and been given intensive input in perfecting, In an experienced Player is diagnostic.

That statistic makes you the liability in any Job. If it were me I would have been Sacked by my boss irrespective of the Stats I delivered in other performance measures.

 

[Tonbridge (Swanley)]

I thought we were lucky to get a penalty for Manu's play the ball. It looked like Manu tried to quickly to play the ball and put it on Masoe's knee.

 

[facefacts]

Manu is required to maintain control of the ball and he didn't, the tackler didn't even make contact.
Masoe was just standing still at marker, in the correct position. It's there to see on the website. Knock on.

https://www.nrl.com/smartReplay/tabid/10910/seasonID/10/roundID/425/matchId/2384/default.aspx

Click on penalties, its 46mins and 17 seconds.

It is as clear as day, Knock on.

You're wasting your breath, you can have all the proof in the world, have as many stats as you want backing you up, or just simply point out the
obvious....every knock-on is the tacklers fault, and every defensive blunder is the centers fault....get used to it.

 

[surfin]

Isn't everything Manus fault?