Recruitment 2023/2024 Warriors Recruitment DISCUSSION

[Wheels]

If you are fatigued and out on your feet, who would you rather tackle.....The likes of Sironen or the likes of Addin Fonua-Blake?

Is that a trick question? I would choose Addin Fonua-Blake because I am going to miss both but at least with Addin Fonua-Blake it is somewhat expected.

 

[Mullayo]

Seyfarth is pretty highly rated - But I don't know why we wouldn't just keep Siro. Maybe they've already made the call he wont be here in 2024 perhaps. Or have been going for a straight swap even, with his Tiger links.

Actually, after looking closer at Seyfarth I quite like him. The problem has been the Tigers play him out of position.

If he's given an edge for 80 mins he averages around 45 tackles, busy and accurate too with only 1.3 misses.

Sironen and Curran in the same (2022) minutes are 10 tackles less with twice the misses. Albeit, they have an extra 20 run metres but they both average a considerable 10 pts less in Fantasy

He's listed as 1.94 cm and 103 kg so a lot of room to add muscle. At 24. could add 5-6 kg in a couple of years and become a handful.

 

[Worried2Death]

Actually, after looking closer at Seyfarth I quite like him. The problem has been the Tigers play him out of position.

If he's given an edge for 80 mins he averages around 45 tackles, busy and accurate too with only 1.3 misses.

Sironen and Curran in the same (2022) minutes are 10 tackles less with twice the misses. Albeit, they have an extra 20 run metres but they both average a considerable 10 pts less in Fantasy

He's listed as 1.94 cm and 103 kg so a lot of room to add muscle. At 24. could add 5-6 kg in a couple of years and become a handful.

We're trying to talk him down since we didn't get him, we never needed him anyway really.

I'm more interested in this flying Fijian Kautoga that Noitall was talking about, why's he so desperate to get out of the Tigers, because he wants to go to a more succesful club to pursue his premiership dream? Get on the hotline Cam.

 

[Mullayo]

We're trying to talk him down since we didn't get him, we never needed him anyway really.

I'm more interested in this fying Fijian Kautoga that Noitall was talking about, why's he so desperate to get out of the Tigers, because he wants to go to a more succesful club to pursue his premiership dream? Get on the hotline Cam.

Oops, sorry. I was talking him down because from memory he looked like a stick insect tacklebot, but I didn't realise he was so tall.

Stats wise though, he's better than not only Siro but Curran too. The more the season unfolds, the more I'm convinced Wests have stuffed up bringing all these older stars in.
Api, and Papalii are fine, but they have good young forwards in the juniors. Seyfarth, Blore, Matamua, Pole and Utoikamanu should be used more.

 

[Worried2Death]

Oops, sorry. I was talking him down because from memory he looked like a stick insect tacklebot, but I didn't realise he was so tall.

Could be another Shaun Lane then, he looked like a very tall stick insect when he played for us, look what we did for his game.

 

[TeetsNRL]

Actually, after looking closer at Seyfarth I quite like him. The problem has been the Tigers play him out of position.

If he's given an edge for 80 mins he averages around 45 tackles, busy and accurate too with only 1.3 misses.

Sironen and Curran in the same (2022) minutes are 10 tackles less with twice the misses. Albeit, they have an extra 20 run metres but they both average a considerable 10 pts less in Fantasy

Kikau and Nanai barely average around 30 tackles each and miss nearly 4 per game. I’d rather have them on my team than Seyfarth.

Curran blows him away in every attacking stat. Like it’s not even close. To be fair to him Seyfarth has to pay shit team tax on his offensive numbers but so does Curran.

And when Curran plays 70+ over his career he averages about 40 tackles. Not that that’s a good thing, the goal should be to make less across the team.

Tackle counts and even accuracy aren’t even the best measure of a good defender. Tacklebots always score well in Fantasy.

I’ll give you Siro, but Siro to Seyfarth is just typical pointless Warriors player churn.

 

[Noitall]

We're trying to talk him down since we didn't get him, we never needed him anyway really.

I'm more interested in this fying Fijian Kautoga that Noitall was talking about, why's he so desperate to get out of the Tigers, because he wants to go to a more succesful club to pursue his premiership dream? Get on the hotline Cam.

Kitione Kautoga

Kitione Kautoga of Wests Tigers player profile including contract information, NRL news, stats and rumours.

www.zerotackle.com

Listed here as a prop but mainly a second row/centre that can throw a nice cutout pass apparently. He’s a sharks junior that last year at the tiger went from sg ball to nsw cup in weeks and made a first grade debut later in the season.

 

[Noitall]

Long-time lurker first-time poster.

I don't normally get goss but I got some juice I thought I'd share.

kitione kautoga won't be at the club in 2024 and if he gets his way he'll be out the door this year. Hope I'm wrong because I rate this kid big time.

Eels made another offer for Moses but it's still less than ours. Everything the Pom mentioned is 100% spot on. The club is confident and his manager and brother are pushing for him to take the Tigers offer.

Two kids you'll be hearing more of over the years are Michael Nassar and Lachlan Galvin. The club has big wraps on both players



This is off the tigers forum from a poster that others said is fairly handy regarding Kautoga. Probably end up at the bulldogs.

 

[Dannevegas]

Could it be to replace Curran? Why they are looking at a back rower? Man I hope not!

He plays prop

 

[Waipiro]

With all this talk of a faster game and NAS complaining the plight of the big man I reckon 2nd rowers will become the new style of props. If the plan is "attack the spaces and not the faces" then big mobile guys, like Niukore and Barnett, will be the blueprint. If seems to be the way we are setting up.

 

[MC..]

Seyfarth is pretty highly rated - But I don't know why we wouldn't just keep Siro. Maybe they've already made the call he wont be here in 2024 perhaps. Or have been going for a straight swap even, with his Tiger links.

When we signed Sironen it was a pretty big deal. We got him to be released from his current Bunny's contract and because of his name he was ment to be one of out top back rowers. So i think he has to be on decent money and he has unfortunately not lived up to it. We are not getting value for money from him. With Seyfarth i would hope he was offered not much more than minimum wage (position 28 or 29 on the roster). He is off contract and currently can't land a top 30 spot anywhere. Lot of people saying we are stacked with back rowers but Sironen will be gone by 2024, so you have to have back up to Curren Niukore Barrett and Ford.

Seyfarth is pretty highly rated - But I don't know why we wouldn't just keep Siro. Maybe they've already made the call he wont be here in 2024 perhaps. Or have been going for a straight swap even, with his Tiger links.

 

[Noitall]

When we signed Sironen it was a pretty big deal. We got him to be released from his current Bunny's contract and because of his name he was ment to be one of out top back rowers. So i think he has to be on decent money and he has unfortunately not lived up to it. We are not getting value for money from him. With Seyfarth i would hope he was offered not much more than minimum wage (position 28 or 29 on the roster). He is off contract and currently can't land a top 30 spot anywhere. Lot of people saying we are stacked with back rowers but Sironen will be gone by 2024, so you have to have back up to Curren Niukore Barrett and Ford.

Wests Tigers forward rejects lucrative offer from rival club

The 24 year-old knocked back the deal to remain in Sydney for family reasons.

www.zerotackle.com

This article says he was offered a hefty pay rise, probably not on a lot at tigers so not sure what hefty entails.

 

[Mullayo]

Curran's stats 2022 playing 2nd row over 70 minutes.

77.7mins. 33.3 tackles, 3.2 misses. 67.7yds for 45pts

Sey-yes 80 mins he averages around 45.5 tackles, busy and accurate too with only 1.3 misses, 65 yards for 56pts.

I like Curran, but Seyfarth seems to be good too.

Curran blows him away in every attacking stat. Like it’s not even close. To be fair to him Seyfarth has to pay shit team tax on his offensive numbers but so does Curran.

And when Curran plays 70+ over his career he averages about 40 tackles. Not that that’s a good thing, the goal should be to make less across the team.

 

[Tony Martin]

Wasn’t seyfarth being talked up as the next Danny Buderus at some point. He played nsw under 18s and was the jersey flegg player of the year: He looked red hot as a junior when he was playing Hooker. I wouldn’t mind Justin Matamua from the tigers. Will be playing in the 13 jumper tomorrow

 

[Brother Faisal]

Curran's stats 2022 playing 2nd row over 70 minutes.

77.7mins. 33.3 tackles, 3.2 misses. 67.7yds for 45pts

Sey-yes 80 mins he averages around 45.5 tackles, busy and accurate too with only 1.3 misses, 65 yards for 56pts.

I like Curran, but Seyfarth seems to be good too.

Just a note on the tackle side of things.

I’m not a big fan of guys averaging 40 tackles a game. I think it shows you’ve spent too much time defending and will end up most times with less metres. I like to see a stat line like an addin or close to 150metres 30 tackles 1 miss tackle is good.

A player who can give a consistent 115metres 28 tackles 1 miss is a good stat line

Someone with 80 metres 40 tackles 2 miss tackles I can’t really justify personally.

 

[Five&Last]

Wasn’t seyfarth being talked up as the next Danny Buderus at some point. He played nsw under 18s and was the jersey flegg player of the year: He looked red hot as a junior when he was playing Hooker. I wouldn’t mind Justin Matamua from the tigers. Will be playing in the 13 jumper tomorrow

I think Justin Matamua will be the best forward in the game at some point in the future, or close to it.

I doubt we can get him though. Tigers future a lot brighter than the media make out.

 

[Geoff Public]

Seaforth was a Tigers development player in 2019. Webster was on the Tigers coaching staff.
Starting to look like a player our coach wanted has used our approach as an advertisement to all Sydney clubs. Because he doesn't want to leave there.

 

[Five&Last]

Wasn’t seyfarth being talked up as the next Danny Buderus at some point. He played nsw under 18s and was the jersey flegg player of the year: He looked red hot as a junior when he was playing Hooker. I wouldn’t mind Justin Matamua from the tigers. Will be playing in the 13 jumper tomorrow

He’s 6’4 so don’t think he was ever a hooker. Always been a lumbering, unathletic edge player. Goes fine defensively, but doesn’t offer anything else.

 

[TeetsNRL]

Curran's stats 2022 playing 2nd row over 70 minutes.

77.7mins. 33.3 tackles, 3.2 misses. 67.7yds for 45pts

Sey-yes 80 mins he averages around 45.5 tackles, busy and accurate too with only 1.3 misses, 65 yards for 56pts.

I like Curran, but Seyfarth seems to be good too.

You left out his try and line break averages in those 4 games of 0.0 and 0.0 respectively. Right in line with his career averages.

Honestly, you can pull plenty of players out of Cup on a base contract who can peel off 45 tackles a game without offering much else.

 

[Mullayo]

You left out his try and line break averages in those 4 games of 0.0 and 0.0 respectively. Right in line with his career averages.

Honestly, you can pull plenty of players out of Cup on a base contract who can peel off 45 tackles a game without offering much else.

I never wanted him, have 100 guys I'd prefer but I was just pointing out his positives and potential upside. Plus we're a team that needs to lower the missed tackle count by about a thousand.