Recruitment 2023/2024 Warriors Recruitment DISCUSSION

[Tianasnow14]

Surely not with our lack of prop depth.

Why the hell would we let him go? lol. We're trying to find middles not rent the ones we have out.

 

[pompower]

He is likely not going to play NRL here. If the club feel he is ready for that then a one-year loan to the Knights — if he is going to get games there — is potentially a good experience that will benefit us long-term.

 

[Bangbros 2023]

He is likely not going to play NRL here. If the club feel he is ready for that then a one-year loan to the Knights — if he is going to get games there — is potentially a good experience that will benefit us long-term.

Would give me interest in Newcastle games I guess.

 

[TeetsNRL]

He is likely not going to play NRL here. If the club feel he is ready for that then a one-year loan to the Knights — if he is going to get games there — is potentially a good experience that will benefit us long-term.

100% it’s all upside for us if he isn’t going to play 1st grade here this year.

Zyon gets say 8-10 games worth of first grade reps in, gets to make rookie mistakes away from the often career killing impatience of Warriors fans.

Then we get him back next year with the new toy smell.

 

[Swanny]

100% it’s all upside for us if he isn’t going to play 1st grade here this year.

Zyon gets say 8-10 games worth of first grade reps in, gets to make rookie mistakes away from the often career killing impatience of Warriors fans.

Then we get him back next year with the new toy smell.

How far away from first grade are you in the new concussion rules era though? Presumably Curran comes in this week and then Sifakula is 18th man. After that we have no fit forwards left in the squad so would be leaning on the development players

 

[Dannevegas]

Well while we are throwing names around, Mohawk eluded to the cap space next year being much better.

My top 5 hit list
P Haas
J Manu
S Kris
M Fotuaika
B H Uele

One of these would do just fine.

Seb Kris is over rated

 

[StGeorge]

Have we given up on signing NOS? Surely he’s a target and it’s not like we haven’t pulled off big kiwi signings from Aussie before. We will have the cash I’d say for 700-800k a year. Other players we could look at;
Ieremia
Tuala
Sorensen
Grieg

Ideally we need a FRF and depending on Siro and Curran we may need an edge as well. Even with Sifakula. Only other spot at a pinch would be wing. But wouldn’t want to spend big $$ there.

 

[Toookey]

How far away from first grade are you in the new concussion rules era though? Presumably Curran comes in this week and then Sifakula is 18th man. After that we have no fit forwards left in the squad so would be leaning on the development players

Surely you could put a condition on him signing for Newcastle similar to other teams did when lending us players. I remember Hetherington being recalled back to the Panthers I think?

 

[Swanny]

Surely you could put a condition on him signing for Newcastle similar to other teams did when lending us players. I remember Hetherington being recalled back to the Panthers I think?

That was allowed during Covid times but I don’t think that sort of salary cap flexibility exists anymore. If he was to be released from his Warriors contract for this season he would have to sign a top 30 contract for the rest of the season at a certain rate with a rival club

 

[Up the guttz]

Why would we loan Zion? I thought we were all over rushing players into 1st grade. If we are back on that wagon he may as well be rushed in by us rather than a shit team like the knights and Adam O. They could ruin our new toy before we got to play with it.

 

[Bangbros 2023]

Why would we loan Zion? I thought we were all over rushing players into 1st grade. If we are back on that wagon he may as well be rushed in by us rather than a shit team like the knights and Adam O. They could ruin our new toy before we got to play with it.

I too think Zyon should be locked into the top 30. Yes he's got a lot to work on defensively but he should be doing in cup and getting reps with our squad not someone else's.

 

[Toookey]

I guess it comes down to do we think playing top grade 8-12 times this year and being around the first grade squad will have a positive impact on his overall career?

I say yes. Imo he potentially could start to get frustrated this year and next only playing NSW cup, whereas we have the ability to allow him to get 8-12 games this year, then we give him a handful next year before he gets a good crack at making the team long term in 2025. He'd be nearly 20 games in to his NRL career which can only be a good thing, right?

 

[Jay M]

I guess it comes down to do we think playing top grade 8-12 times this year and being around the first grade squad will have a positive impact on his overall career?

I say yes. Imo he potentially could start to get frustrated this year and next only playing NSW cup, whereas we have the ability to allow him to get 8-12 games this year, then we give him a handful next year before he gets a good crack at making the team long term in 2025. He'd be nearly 20 games in to his NRL career which can only be a good thing, right?

I think it'd be awesome for him to get experience this year. That being said, what would the warriors get out of that loan agreement? There would need to be some additional benefit.

Also, how many injuries or suspensions do we think he is away from debuting in our first grade side at prop? He might debut with us before too long. We're definitely short in the middle.

 

[Toookey]

I think it'd be awesome for him to get experience this year. That being said, what would the warriors get out of that loan agreement? There would need to be some additional benefit.

Also, how many injuries or suspensions do we think he is away from debuting in our first grade side at prop? He might debut with us before too long. We're definitely short in the middle.

Yeah it all depends - if there's a good chance he debuts for us this year then I wouldn't want to see him go. The upside for us is that one of our future stars is being given a go in first grade to gain experience and become a better player faster, similar to the 'loan' agreement Broncs had with us and RW

 

[Bangbros 2023]

Yeah it all depends - if there's a good chance he debuts for us this year then I wouldn't want to see him go. The upside for us is that one of our future stars is being given a go in first grade to gain experience and become a better player faster, similar to the 'loan' agreement Broncs had with us and RW

Do Newcastle have no props in their system?

 

[Toookey]

Also, still a little way to go this year but Niko Hynes is able to negotiate with clubs from November this year.

If he doesn't sign long term with Sharkies before that I'd like to see us go all in for him. Offer 1.2 mill+ he's that good. I don't think we have a real shot of signing him but make it difficult for Sharkies or who ever signs him long term.

He's worth losing any of a combination of Metcalf, Volkman and Te Maire Martin for

 

[Jay M]

Yeah it all depends - if there's a good chance he debuts for us this year then I wouldn't want to see him go. The upside for us is that one of our future stars is being given a go in first grade to gain experience and become a better player faster, similar to the 'loan' agreement Broncs had with us and RW

That being said, I wouldn't want him to fall in love with the beaches near Newcastle .

 

[TeetsNRL]

Do Newcastle have no props in their system?

Fuck Newcastle. If they’re dumb enough to want to develop one of our players for us, good on them.

It’s normally shit clubs like us and the Tigers giving valuable 1st grade experience to guys like Jesse Arthars and Harry Grant. Who is benefiting from those deals now, not us or the Tigers.

It’s be nice to be on the right side of one of these deals for once. Short term gain for them, long term gain for us.

Again, only provided we’re not going to blood him this year. Cappy in his interviews was still open to going to market for a middle so no sure thing he does.

 

[Five&Last]

Yeah I don't know if I buy this. In the Lachie Miller trade they gave away their most promising prop to the Sharks who have the most prop depth of any team. Surely they would've given away a player in a different position if they were this close to having no props.

I'm all for players going out on loan and getting experience, but the reality is Zyon is close to getting a first grade run A) because he's killing it reserve grade and B) (more importantly) our own prop depth is thin. I'd rather he just develop in our NSW cup team and then promote him to top 30 mid season. Saves us inevitably overpaying for a prop at the transfer deadline.

 

[Toookey]

Yeah I don't know if I buy this. In the Lachie Miller trade they gave away their most promising prop to the Sharks who have the most prop depth of any team. Surely they would've given away a player in a different position if they were this close to having no props.

I'm all for players going out on loan and getting experience, but the reality is Zyon is close to getting a first grade run A) because he's killing it reserve grade and B) (more importantly) our own prop depth is thin. I'd rather he just develop in our NSW cup team and then promote him to top 30 mid season. Saves us inevitably overpaying for a prop at the transfer deadline.

Yeah a lot of what ifs for me...

How close is Zyon to getting a gig with us?
If we release him now do we need to fill his spot in our roster?
Will he even get game time at the Knights?

If everything indicates he won't get game time in the top team with us this year, and we know he will with Knights then I'm all for it