Recruitment 2022 Warriors Recruitment Discussion

[Noitall]

Andrew Webster can bring Spencer Leniu with him.........

With them both being of similar measurements at 183cm tall and a couple of kilos between them I think Tom Ale could be our version of Leniu, will be good to see how he goes in the remaining games. Interested to see how we go with trying to get Arthars off the broncos since the knights are apparently shopping Bradman Best around, he’s not performing but one of the elite centres when he is.

 

[Defence]

Andrew Webster can bring Spencer Leniu with him.........

haha was thinking the same last night- or Leota- he was huge in that opening stanza- gave it to the bunnies forwards.
if uncle Ivan could give webby one of them as a parting gift that was be just dandy.

 

[Once A Warrior]

There doesn't seem to be a correlation between weight and how good a prop is. James Fished Harris is about 104kg whereas big Tino is only 107kg.
Someone like Jared Waera Hargreaves, who seems to be an absolute giant of a man, is only 4kg and 2inches more than the big Kepu...seems pretty nuts.

Tohu Harris is at 112kg too, so let's use him as the bench mark instead of Bunty 🤣

Then there is jazz 😂

 

[Blackdot]

From the Mole on twitter:

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Does anyone have any comments on these two blokes, and where they stack up against the other junior backrowers we have on our books already?

 

[Blain]

Can someone please post this article? Chur

'Really tough decision': Young Warriors star explains move to rival club

It wasn't so long ago that Katoa was touted as one of the Warriors' brightest prospects.

www.nzherald.co.nz

 

[tajhay]

Can someone please post this article? Chur

'Really tough decision': Young Warriors star explains move to rival club

It wasn't so long ago that Katoa was touted as one of the Warriors' brightest prospects.

www.nzherald.co.nz

Warriors forward Eliesa Katoa says the opportunity for a new challenge, as well a desire to test himself outside of his comfort zone, drove the decision to seek a release from the club.

Katoa signed a two-year deal with the Melbourne Storm last week, after the Canberra Raiders and Redcliffe Dolphins had also expressed interest in his services.

It wasn't so long ago that Katoa was touted as one of the Warriors brightest prospects, after an impressive debut season in 2020.
He was players' man of the match in his first two NRL games and by May 2020 the club had already moved to extend his contract, to the end of the 2024 season, such was his progress.
Katoa struggled to replicate the same impact last season, not helped by some niggling injuries, and was mostly confined to interchange appearances in the second half of the campaign.
The 22-year-old has been even less prominent this year.
Last Friday's match against the Bulldogs was just his 12th game of the season, with the majority off the bench.

That led to Katoa thinking about fresh pastures, with the Warriors granting him permission to talk to other clubs last month.

Speaking for the first time about the move, Katoa admits he has mixed feelings.
"It was a really tough decision," Katoa told the Herald. "I love this club and I have loved my time at this club, that gave me an opportunity. I came from the Islands with a dream to help my family and the Warriors helped me to do that."

But the chance to test himself in a new environment, along with the expectation of more game time, piqued his interest in a switch.
"I guess it was just an opportunity for me – a new chapter," said Katoa. "I just wanted to get out of my comfort zone, look for a new challenge. It's going to be a good challenge for me, it's going to be really hard too. But this is a great club."

Katoa moved to Auckland in 2017 – brought out on a scholarship by Tamaki College – so doesn't have the same family ties as some other local players, with his mother and sister still back in Tonga.
Warriors interim head coach Stacey Jones admitted Katoa's impending exit was a "disappointing" scenario.
"Eli got went off to a pretty rocket start to his career," said Jones. "And the last couple of years he sort of stagnated a bit and he got frustrated. It is disappointing, because you want those type of players [local products] to be long-term players here."
Captain Tohu Harris empathised with Katoa's move, saying the Tongan representative is only doing what he believes is best for his career, but said it will be sad to see him leave.

"We would love to keep the players that come through the club, especially as young as they are," said Harris. "He's certainly got a lot of talent and he works really hard.
"So he still has an opportunity to be a great player and I'm sure [Melbourne] will give them the best chance possible to realise that potential. It's just going to be up to him."
Last Friday, in only his third NRL appearance since late May, Katoa offered a reminder of his promise with an impressive 29-minute stint against the Bulldogs, including a crucial second-half try.
He'll get another chance to add to his Warriors memories against the North Queensland Cowboys on Friday (8pm), retained in an unchanged 17.
The Warriors edged the last encounter in early April, but the two clubs have been on different trajectories since, with the Cowboys compiling a 15-6 record to sit second on the NRL ladder, while the Warriors are 6-15 in 13th.
Jones hopes the Warriors can build on the Bulldogs win and display some resilience and mental toughness in Townsville.
"I want to see us turn up with an attitude to have a real go," said Jones.
Meanwhile, the club confirmed on Wednesday that assistant coach Slade Griffin will take charge of the New South Wales Cup side in 2023, with former Kiwis and Warriors captain Adam Blair to oversee SG Ball Cup team, as those development grades return after a Covid-forced hiatus for the last three seasons.

 

[Blain]

Thanks taj. On the basis of that, I wouldn't expect the club to be carrying any of his wages moving forward.

 

[Toookey]

Interested to see how we go with trying to get Arthars off the broncos since the knights are apparently shopping Bradman Best around, he’s not performing but one of the elite centres when he is.

Yeah that's an interesting one for sure - huge potential - this year is his 3rd full season but each year has missed a host of games so has only played 12-15 each season, but the bloke is still only 21...
Has that ability to beat a man 1 on 1 and create something from nothing, which we really lack at the minute.

Straight swap for Pompey I think 🤪

 

[Once A Warrior]

Does anyone have any comments on these two blokes, and where they stack up against the other junior backrowers we have on our books already?

Probably stack up right behind Z Maiuu and J Laban, but maybe before Ikahahhehehehehehfo.

 

[Jay M]

Thanks taj. On the basis of that, I wouldn't expect the club to be carrying any of his wages moving forward.

best not to assume anything when it comes to our club 😉... they'll always find a way to let us down!

 

[Billyspleen75]

In Kosi's last 4 appearances 9 tackle breaks, 10 line breaks, 7 tries, averaging 150m a game but apparently that's standard winger stuff that every winger does according to some on here.... I think he's a beast and has hit some good form I'm on the Kosi train Choo Choo!

You mean to say you have now joined the Kosi Posse.

 

[Horriors2013]

Props my biggest concern, pretty ok with how we have recruited but it’s pretty much Addin Fonua-Blake… daylight…. More daylight in terms of prop. Suspect we will be rolling out a couple of 2nd rowers under the guise of a prop as we seem to have almost enough to make a team outta them.

Isn't that the plan anyway? Tohu Harris playing prop.

 

[Dannevegas]

My team for next year with Recruitments we should make:

Nicoll-Klokstad
Montoya
Walker
Vailea
Khan-Pereira
Martin
Johnson
Fonua-Blake
Egan
Harris
Barnett
Curran
Tevaga

Lussick
Ale
Big-Grinder type prop
Niukore

Still not sure about Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad at Fullback, but hoping Martin and Johnson can make up the creativity. But I think that has the best balance Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad is good on defence, yardage, dangerous ball runner and can ball play at a pinch.

Walker and Vailea are centres who can create from nothing, something we’ve lacked for a long time, with Berry, Arthers next in line.

Alofiana Khan pereira- young Maori kid stuck in Titans Reggies 24 tries in cup this year.

We’re short props, ideally we’d want Afoa as a backup prop not starting 17. And all our young boys Kepu’s and the likes are aways off. Ale gets 1 Bench spot for mine(brings Speed, Footwork, offload), so other prop spot we’d want a grafter big body who averages over 100m a game, I’d be looking at: Emre Pere, Naufahu Whyte, Lindsay smith, Emre Guler, Liam Knight, Eddie Blacker, Morgan Boyle.

Sorry long post just looking for the light lol.

 

[Uster101]

Just an opinion, but apart from a few games in his first season, Reece Walsh had been a bit of a failure at the Warriors. Too small for defence and has not been an attacking force this season. Maybe just a result rom being in a team that struggles. Maybe he will be better at the Broncos, but if what we have got out of him is all he has got then I am happy to see him go. The Broncos might have brought them self a dud ! and in Te Maire Martin we might have got our self a weapon. Time will tell

 

[Noitall]

Player Contracts​

PLAYER CONTRACTS​

Team	2022	2023	2024	2025	2026
New Zealand Warriors	$800K	$800K	$800K

This is Dallin Watene-Zelezniak contract status. Love the speed but this is a crazy contract and he needs to be shopped over in super league, $800k a season for a winger is unbelievable.

 

[john nick]

My team for next year with Recruitments we should make:

Nicoll-Klokstad
Montoya
Walker
Vailea
Khan-Pereira
Martin
Johnson
Fonua-Blake
Egan
Harris
Barnett
Curran
Tevaga

Lussick
Ale
Big-Grinder type prop
Niukore

Still not sure about Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad at Fullback, but hoping Martin and Johnson can make up the creativity. But I think that has the best balance Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad is good on defence, yardage, dangerous ball runner and can ball play at a pinch.

Walker and Vailea are centres who can create from nothing, something we’ve lacked for a long time, with Berry, Arthers next in line.

Alofiana Khan pereira- young Maori kid stuck in Titans Reggies 24 tries in cup this year.

We’re short props, ideally we’d want Afoa as a backup prop not starting 17. And all our young boys Kepu’s and the likes are aways off. Ale gets 1 Bench spot for mine(brings Speed, Footwork, offload), so other prop spot we’d want a grafter big body who averages over 100m a game, I’d be looking at: Emre Pere, Naufahu Whyte, Lindsay smith, Emre Guler, Liam Knight, Eddie Blacker, Morgan Boyle.

Sorry long post just looking for the light lol.

Haven't seen much of Emre Guler yet but what I have seen is impressive.
Anyone else with a better understanding of him??

 

[Cces]

Player Contracts​

PLAYER CONTRACTS​

Team	2022	2023	2024	2025	2026
New Zealand Warriors	$800K	$800K	$800K

This is Dallin Watene-Zelezniak contract status. Love the speed but this is a crazy contract and he needs to be shopped over in super league, $800k a season for a winger is unbelievable.

Zero Tackle also stated we were paying Ash Taylor 800k earlier this year...
Dallin Watene-Zelezniak's 2023 & 2024 years were negotiated when he was an out of favour Winger at the Dogs so I'd imagine it's more like 500k at the very most

 

[TheMorningEmu]

Player Contracts​

PLAYER CONTRACTS​

Team	2022	2023	2024	2025	2026
New Zealand Warriors	$800K	$800K	$800K

This is Dallin Watene-Zelezniak contract status. Love the speed but this is a crazy contract and he needs to be shopped over in super league, $800k a season for a winger is unbelievable.

A lot of that is being paid for by the ‘Dogs though so probably closer to 450k or less, which is still overpaid but it’s not a contract I would desperately be trying to get out of.

His shooting up out of the line drives me nuts considering it’s only paid off with the intercept last week and maybe a couple big hits throughout the year but I like his hit ups to get us out of trouble and his speed and finishing has been great when he has gotten good enough ball to show it off.

 

[Noitall]

Zero Tackle also stated we were paying Ash Taylor 800k earlier this year...
Dallin Watene-Zelezniak's 2023 & 2024 years were negotiated when he was an out of favour Winger at the Dogs so I'd imagine it's more like 500k at the very most

NRL Highest Paid Players

A list of the highest paid rugby league players in the NRL. Only players with reported contract values are listed.

www.zerotackle.com

Is this correct though that Dallin Watene-Zelezniak salary drops, because I’m seeing countless articles questioning what we’re paying him.

 

[Damo]

NRL Highest Paid Players

A list of the highest paid rugby league players in the NRL. Only players with reported contract values are listed.

www.zerotackle.com

Is this correct though that Dallin Watene-Zelezniak salary drops, because I’m seeing countless articles questioning what we’re paying him.

I wouldn't take Zero Tackle for gospel, several of the salaries on that site are way off.