General 2022 NRL Finals Discussion WEEK 2

[snake77]

What I will never understand, is after a successful 2018 campaign (ignoring our W1 knockout), why management were hell bent on tearing that team apart.

Rather than keeping with the good vibes, and running it back another year, they let a number of key individuals leave. The treatment of Isaac Luke was equally puzzling, after he played his arse off during the season….CG really got ahead of himself that year..

They have been talking on NRL360 how Hasler should of rebuilt the Bulldogs after 2012 but they tried to squeeze another few years/premiership window out of the aging side.

Maybe our club was thinking the same thing. I know it doesn't make sense but it is the Warriors. After struggling to make the finals for the previous 6 seasons I wouldn't be surprised if they thought they had turned the corner and they could either get him to sign on for less or use him money to recruit a few guys to round off the squad.

Wasn’t it more Brian Smith that was responsible for that mess? CG was just the doofus talking to the media…

I reckon it would of been Brian Smith and Peter O'Sullivan. They would of felt they were not getting a return on the investment and felt they could get him for less money and sign someone else or if he left get a few more players to round out the squad.

O'Sullivan as the Recruitment Manager would of wanted the cap space to rejig the squad and his contract would of freed up a lot of space. As we saw his initial signings were all fringe guys until space came available.

They also underestimated the difficulties getting guys to move to New Zealand. Especially guys still under contract.

 

[snake77]

We didn’t sack Cleary he got a better offer and went, people assume we’d have Penrith version of Cleary when in reality we’d have the Tigers version of Cleary with the resources our club has vs Penrith

He did well here with the lack of resources. The club was also not spending a large chunk of the cap. Remember McClennan was happy with his squad but Elliott came in and thought it was a good spot that they had so much cap space available.

I'm guessing part of that was fall out from the previous cheating as its easier to not go over the cap if you don't spend it all. The other part would of been Watson limiting money. Remember the rules were different back then as you weren't required to spend 90% and it wasn't 100% subsidised by the NRL.

A few years after Cleary left Watson/Glenn decided to spend money on the facilities. They would be average now compared to the other clubs and we don't have the centre of excellence like the Panthers built which should be the aim as a development club.

On our old facilities I knew a trainer who was offered them (gym equipment). They were so crap they struggled to get rid of them.

‘Sorta’ we offered him a shorter term than Panthers, he’s mentioned he would have likely stayed if we’d matched it but we didn’t. Despite going on a run to the gf later that year people forget we weren’t going so flash while the contract negotiations were playing out and you could understand the Warriors being wary of longer terms, hindsight is a wonderful thing though

Whatever we offered we would of had Gould offering longer or always in the background waiting for him as he said if we signed him for 2 years Gould would offer him a contract at the end of that. Think our guys thought they had a ready made replacement and it was time for a change and fell for Gould's mind games.

In hindsight it would of been interesting if we had Cleary for another 2-3 years. Would Gould have stuck to that plan or would he have found a coach he was happy with?

If he stuck with his plan to wait for Cleary it would of been crap for the coach he got in the interim. Mind you Gould would of just made his life miserable so he'd quit and make some excuse.

 

[Noitall]

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  Collaroy Eel September 26, 2022 at 11:54am
  
  From reading his lips it's was 'that's a fucking try...''
  
  i loved the passion from RCG.. he will be on fire GF against his old shit club. It is going to be a fucking war!
  Gezz I am pumped... my mrs has been having a go at me for being way too passionate during Friday nights game and afterwards.. I said you wait till Sunday... I will be in full Scarface mode..
  
  my 9yr old son and I shed a tear when we won , especially after thinking it was over at 20-12.
  I told my son I was his age the last time we won a GF.
  
  
  Man I had a laugh at the passion from the eels forum, the thread is asking what RCG said after he got his try.

 

[Defence]

Love leota- I know Ive already carried on about him a bit in this thread and we’re next to no chance of getting him now but he reminds me a lot of jerry seuseu- unsung hero I reckon.

 

[Beastmode]

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  Collaroy Eel September 26, 2022 at 11:54am
  
  From reading his lips it's was 'that's a fucking try...''
  
  i loved the passion from RCG.. he will be on fire GF against his old shit club. It is going to be a fucking war!
  Gezz I am pumped... my mrs has been having a go at me for being way too passionate during Friday nights game and afterwards.. I said you wait till Sunday... I will be in full Scarface mode..
  
  my 9yr old son and I shed a tear when we won , especially after thinking it was over at 20-12.
  I told my son I was his age the last time we won a GF.
  
  
  Man I had a laugh at the passion from the eels forum, the thread is asking what RCG said after he got his try.

I hope you have tissues ready to wipe away the tears when they don’t win.

Love your passion though.

 

[Worried2Death]

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  Collaroy Eel September 26, 2022 at 11:54am
  
  From reading his lips it's was 'that's a fucking try...''
  
  i loved the passion from RCG.. he will be on fire GF against his old shit club. It is going to be a fucking war!
  Gezz I am pumped... my mrs has been having a go at me for being way too passionate during Friday nights game and afterwards.. I said you wait till Sunday... I will be in full Scarface mode..
  
  my 9yr old son and I shed a tear when we won , especially after thinking it was over at 20-12.
  I told my son I was his age the last time we won a GF.
  
  
  Man I had a laugh at the passion from the eels forum, the thread is asking what RCG said after he got his try.

I'd hate to be this guy after the predictable Penrith fairytale 2.0 that's about to unfold. Still rather be him than me though, we can only dream of losing grand finals now.

 

[Mr Dragon]

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Giving me flashbacks of my honeymoon! 🤣

 

[Jaffa J]

Tough for Cartwright to miss out because of Jakob Arthurs if Eels lose it will be a major talking point

 

[The Falcon]

Penrith .. All 4 grades into Grand Finals, have won 2 of them already.

 

[SBW1]

Counting Kiwis lining up in 2022 NRL grand final - New Zealand Rugby League

Seven New Zealand internationals are set to line up for Penrith and Parramatta in the NRL’s battle-of-the-west grand final at Accor Stadium on Sunday.

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