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Because he doesn't seem to be a "follow me" type leader. He is an exemplary professional, and he is tough, he has shown that many times. Really he would be ideal for a club that has plenty of other professionals where he can just do his job alongside them.

He is no Kevin Campion, actually come to think of it we haven't had a Campion type since, have we? Even Rueben Wiki went off the boil somewhat here and Steve Price was the model professional type who clicked off his KPI's and went home.

Sort of why I hope we target Josh Jackson. I could tolerate the terrible back row balance in our squad for another season if we're actually recruiting true leaders to help get us out of mediocrity.
 

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That was easily the most concerning comment I heard coming from the forum. To be honest, I don't know how transparent any of the members forum is, or if any comments are made to appease us as a fanbase. But that comment is an indictment on the entire playing group and coaching staff. I don't understand how Greeny could seriously think that was a viable and justifiable reason our year panned out the way it did.
I think Green is a genuine Aussie pro who calls it as he sees it. He was asked the question as to why we didn't perform and his opinion was the answer. I didn't interpret it as they were NOT training, they just were not putting in the little extra that makes the mental difference. If you have watched them train they sure look ok, but why are Roger Tuivasa-Sheck and Blair out front all the time?

I don't think any Aussie wants to tackle Paasi, or be tackled by him. However they sure know to watch for when he loses intensity and then run at him because they know he will do it for sure. They also know that he plays the ball slow and occasionally loses intensity on the hitup, and they just wait for it.

Greens comments aren't new. Phil Blake made similar comments 25 bloody years ago. Of course we know two guys who would never understand, maybe three, in Watson, Glenn and Doyle.
 
I think Green is a genuine Aussie pro who calls it as he sees it. He was asked the question as to why we didn't perform and his opinion was the answer. I didn't interpret it as they were NOT training, they just were not putting in the little extra that makes the mental difference.

I would still want to know if his opinion was realised upon reflection, or if known during the season, how was it addressed. I would expect the leadership group and coaching staff to want to know the answer to that too.

I don't think any Aussie wants to tackle Paasi, or be tackled by him. However they sure know to watch for when he loses intensity and then run at him because they know he will do it for sure. They also know that he plays the ball slow and occasionally loses intensity on the hitup, and they just wait for it.

Agnatius and Bunty both suffered from a badly balanced squad though. They both had great moments this year, and both struggled at times too. Add another front row option with an engine similar to Leeson's and our form up front should markedly improve. It looks like the football department are aware of this though and are trying to make the right recruit.
 
That was easily the most concerning comment I heard coming from the forum. To be honest, I don't know how transparent any of the members forum is, or if any comments are made to appease us as a fanbase. But that comment is an indictment on the entire playing group and coaching staff. I don't understand how Greeny could seriously think that was a viable and justifiable reason our year panned out the way it did.

I would of actually stood up and Interrupted the meeting to say that's not good enough!
 
I think Green is a genuine Aussie pro who calls it as he sees it. He was asked the question as to why we didn't perform and his opinion was the answer. I didn't interpret it as they were NOT training, they just were not putting in the little extra that makes the mental difference. If you have watched them train they sure look ok, but why are Roger Tuivasa-Sheck and Blair out front all the time?

I don't think any Aussie wants to tackle Paasi, or be tackled by him. However they sure know to watch for when he loses intensity and then run at him because they know he will do it for sure. They also know that he plays the ball slow and occasionally loses intensity on the hitup, and they just wait for it.

Greens comments aren't new. Phil Blake made similar comments 25 bloody years ago. Of course we know two guys who would never understand, maybe three, in Watson, Glenn and Doyle.
Then I want to know are they spelling this out to the playing group and actually pinpointing individuals, and pulling them up? Because that would then damn make sure that when they leaders say this that they too better walk the walk as well!
 
I would still want to know if his opinion was realised upon reflection, or if known during the season, how was it addressed. I would expect the leadership group and coaching staff to want to know the answer to that too.



Agnatius and Bunty both suffered from a badly balanced squad though. They both had great moments this year, and both struggled at times too. Add another front row option with an engine similar to Leeson's and our form up front should markedly improve. It looks like the football department are aware of this though and are trying to make the right recruit.

Are our guys capable of training and playing at high intensity for 26 weeks straight with all of the travel we do? Its not that we need to use it as an excuse but it may be that we need more rotation within the forward pack. The super rugby sides are certainly careful of how they manage players through the periods where they have to travel. I even remember Des Hasler giving his starting props reduced minutes on a trip to NZ cos he wanted to compensate for the travel factor. We make that trip every second week yet seem to roll out players like Paasi and Afoa when they seem to be more strapping than player and wonder why they are not consistent.
 
Are our guys capable of training and playing at high intensity for 26 weeks straight with all of the travel we do? Its not that we need to use it as an excuse but it may be that we need more rotation within the forward pack. The super rugby sides are certainly careful of how they manage players through the periods where they have to travel. I even remember Des Hasler giving his starting props reduced minutes on a trip to NZ cos he wanted to compensate for the travel factor. We make that trip every second week yet seem to roll out players like Paasi and Afoa when they seem to be more strapping than player and wonder why they are not consistent.

Teams like the warriors dont have that luxury to be honest! Only teams like the roosters and storm can do that, if kearneys job was so safe like brian smith said then why doesnt he loosen up with his selection policies if he has any? I mean why does he keep flogging papalii when hes clearly struggling! If anything that might break him and then we go see you later just like kata? It's a hard one?
 
Are our guys capable of training and playing at high intensity for 26 weeks straight with all of the travel we do?

We've made grand finals and finals series before - it's not an unrealistic expectation for us to want a top 8 finish every year.

Its not that we need to use it as an excuse but it may be that we need more rotation within the forward pack.

IMO, we definitely needed some rotation in our propping stocks - but didn't have the depth to use. I know people were screaming blue murder when Bunty was dropped, but I thought he looked out of form and in need of a stint in the lower grades a few weeks before that decision was made.
 
We've made grand finals and finals series before - it's not an unrealistic expectation for us to want a top 8 finish every year.



IMO, we definitely needed some rotation in our propping stocks - but didn't have the depth to use. I know people were screaming blue murder when Bunty was dropped, but I thought he looked out of form and in need of a stint in the lower grades a few weeks before that decision was made.
Also why wasn't Jackson frei considered?
 
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Also why wasn't Jackson frei considered?

The answer to 'why wasn't such and such selected' is usually the same. I didn't watch much lower grade footy this year, and took little notice of Jackson, but at a guess he probably couldn't out perform our other props at training, wasn't hitting or exceeding his targets in both lower grade footy and at training, or a combination of those things.
 
Just the $2 million then. Any hooker, halves or outside backs to add?
We have traditionally done ok with so so hookers? I mean when they named the top 4 hookers for our top team of the past 25 years you had, pj marsh, death, luke herimia? I think if roach can stay fit and Lawton we are ok there, so just get another so so hooker. Halves yes we may have problems going forward, are we still waiting for dylan brown?
 
The answer to 'why wasn't such and such selected' is usually the same. I didn't watch much lower grade footy this year, and took little notice of Jackson, but at a guess he probably couldn't out perform our other props at training, wasn't hitting or exceeding his targets in both lower grade footy and at training, or a combination of those things.
Well apparently no one was!
 
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Are our guys capable of training and playing at high intensity for 26 weeks straight with all of the travel we do?
We don't. But neither do most of the players at the club. The only difference is we aren't paid to do exactly that in our chosen career path.
 
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