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bruce

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And that attitude is the reason why the kiwis are in the situation they are today. I wouldnt trust the kiwis side to beat most NRL sides. Too much living off past reputation as world cup winners and number 1 rated team.
In the super league days there was a tri series involving NZ Queensland and NSW. The NZ team was embarrassingly good and was deprived of a finals berth by a dodgy linesman's call.

The Australians get international matches all their own way and are just dreaming if they think SOO is the pinnacle.

That Scottish match was an embarrassment but so were the conditions? Why weren't the Australians playing there?
 

gREVUS

Long live the Rainbows and Butterflies
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In the super league days there was a tri series involving NZ Queensland and NSW. The NZ team was embarrassingly good and was deprived of a finals berth by a dodgy linesman's call.

The Australians get international matches all their own way and are just dreaming if they think SOO is the pinnacle.

That Scottish match was an embarrassment but so were the conditions? Why weren't the Australians playing there?
if they were embarrassingly good why did it come down to one bad call, they should have been streets ahead of their opposition.

I dont think NZ has ever had the depth to continuously field a top team with all first choice players available throughout. And thus one injury and the flood gates open.

SOO is why the aussies have the depth to continuously thrash NZ. While many on this site dont see it as anything special. for the players its an international with often bigger crowds and more at stake. Its a practise event where the aussie coach then gets to pick the best players already hardened to international level and unafraid of the big event.
 

mt.wellington

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Like you I'm not interested in SOO, it's pretty much like a good club game these days as much as the fans try to pretend it's something more.
SOO has lost its charm since NSW have been so pathetic over the last decade (come at me bitches :p:finger::D) My interest in it still comes from the glory years where it was the top of all league in the world. Been hooked ever since...
 
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bruce

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if they were embarrassingly good why did it come down to one bad call, they should have been streets ahead of their opposition.
Because the call had to be made to make it an all Australian final, the Kiwis in the final would have been a ratings disaster. That is why they were embarrassingly good. Remember that was over 20 years ago when there was far less Kiwi depth in the NRL than there is now.
 

tajhay

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Because the call had to be made to make it an all Australian final, the Kiwis in the final would have been a ratings disaster. That is why they were embarrassingly good. Remember that was over 20 years ago when there was far less Kiwi depth in the NRL than there is now.

That wasnt the 'true' nsw and qld teams. Wasnt it only players whose clubs were aligned to superleague. Imagine if the ARL had also run a series involving the kiwis....we would have been wallopped.
 

bruce

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That wasnt the 'true' nsw and qld teams. Wasnt it only players whose clubs were aligned to superleague. Imagine if the ARL had also run a series involving the kiwis....we would have been wallopped.
I disagree and have age on my side to remember. Super league signed all the stars, the ARL had the rest including the young up and comers. You might have guessed I don't like the ARL or the NRL They do nothing to promote the game here really, they just use NZ for what they can get out of it.
 

1995Warriorsfan

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Lillyman on the interchange.

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Relative to what it could have been, that is an ordinary team selected. Slater, Holmes, Munster, Hess and Wallace are far better than players that have been selected. I have always thought the loyalty the Moron show will come back to bite them eventually.
 
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Jordan G

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I'd assume that a couple of second rowers are likely to be pushed up to the front row to accommodate Scott being out and Myles being shit. Based on incumbency and common sense (see my Myles comment for clarification) I'll take a guess. Bolded the ones I talk about afterwards.

1. Boyd
2. Oates
3. Gagai
4. Chambers
5. Slater

6. Thurston
7. Cronk
8. Thaiday
9. Smith
10. Lillyman
11. Gillett
12. Guerra
13. McGuire

14. Morgan
15. Cooper
16. Papalli
17. Napa


18th man: O'Neill

Wildcard: Holmes/Slater

Thaiday and Papalli will fill two of those spots, and both can be pushed up into the front row if needed. Maybe push one up front, the other from the bench with Guerra sliding into the second row next to Gillett.

That would leave two bench spaces and a centre spot. Cooper played game 3 last year and has a killer combo with Thurston so he slides into one bench spot. From there I think they need a bit of size and a proper prop so if fit Napa could be the last bench spot.

Centre spot is tough. O'Neill/Chamber/Gagai are all right hand centres. You would have to think that Chambers is the guy to come in, but not necessarily to left centre as O'Neill was only there last year because of injury. Perhaps the wildcard though could be Gagai to left centre and Slater/Holmes to the wing? I think Boyd has the fullback slot locked up but don't discount either of those two.

I always feel a little dirty when I quote myself because I'm afraid I'll go blind, but damn I wasn't too far off. Didn't pick Myles, and surprised Slater couldn't get a wing spot tbh, but aside from positional changes, booyah. Close enough damn it.