Tylz

1st Grade Fringe
Apr 25, 2015
399
As long as I have been involved in the game players have been doing drugs, sometimes worse than coke. I don't do drugs, have never even smoked cannabis, but I don't get shocked by those who do, especially league players. My guess is no more league players do coke than the general public, so the reflection on the game is nil. Just saying like.
I'm not naieve to think that players don't do drugs. But if your gonna do that kind of thing just be abit smarter about it.
 

Wellington Warrior

Warriors 1st Grader
May 15, 2012
5,988
Wellington, New Zealand
Todd Greenberg just interviewed by Fox...saying actions have consequences.

If proven true, I'd say SKD, Bromwich and Proctor could be facing some time on the sidelines ala Corey Norman last season!!

Of course this is the NRL that seems to pick and choose when to come down hard or sweep things under the carpet. But as these are Kiwis...I'd expect them to be fucked over badly!!!
 

snake77

Warriors 1st Grader
Jul 12, 2013
9,906
Auckland
Last night was a good example of how the Australians come together quickly
O how things change so quickly. We thought we were into a new era of kiwis dominance. It was only short lived. Really it was a reflection of how bad sheens was as a coach and selector. Meninga knew he had to have a bigger pack to face us and he had no problem finding 6'6 130kg forwards that make us look tiny.

We never were going to be dominant. It was a smalle period of time where Aussie were remoulding their winning model and now we and the rest of the world seem light years away again.
They have such great depth if they decide a better body type is needed they can just select it whereas we mainly need to choose the best of who is available or from who we have at the time. When I first started watching Bob Fulton loved having a big pack with a big second rower or both big second rowers being huge. They would monster us. We would finally get the players to combat that and they would choose a more mobile pack and move us around.

We always hear about our great forward packs. It is pretty rare we just beat them up as they always aim up.

We have been hearing about NZ dominance coming since Benji and SBW arrived on the scene. Those two barely played together but the point is the same. We can put fantastic players out there but they still need to play as a team with a sustained effort over 80 minutes.

The Australian vs NZ test matches had the potential to build to a good rivalry a few years ago. If we won regularly it would get similar attention to Origin. The problem is with the Australian side you know what level of performance they will give with the New Zealand side you don't.
 

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Bromwich to be stripped of captaincy, Proctor to be banished like sideshow Bob while the mop gets its hairstyle back, Kidwell to be demoted to putting the cones out for allowing the theme song to be...
 
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dean

1st Grade Fringe
Mar 13, 2016
1,335
There seems to much more pride in wearing the Kangaroo jersey than wearing the Kiwi jersey. Occasionally we out perform then but not often. The usual crap is said about Kiwi spirit, best side for years, not frightened anymore, all that hype, which is followed by a good hiding. Now we have two senior players off to a nightclub to celebrate defeat and snort coke. I think the Kiwi's just go through the motions and hope for the best. There has been a strong emphasis on Maori culture in recent times and this has failed and should be forgotten, it has not added anything. Sure, it plays a part in team culture should not be the motivating or common bond. Bromich and Procter have shown us how seriously they take it.
 
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Raurimu Massive

1st Grade Fringe
Apr 26, 2012
2,875
Whangarei
Well, I was pretty much over international league before Friday's match, and after it I find myself even further away from giving a toss. Even international basketball and baseball are less lopsided than international rugby league.

The odd victories we grab give us false hope that we've reached a new era, blah blah blah, then we follow that up with repeatedly shit efforts. 95% of the team look to focus more on doing mean as pukana in the haka, with the game itself being almost incidental. The game isn't about fucking cultural pride, it's about performing like a team of league players on the field. Then we follow that up with the fucking captain and a senior player snorting coke in a public place that's bound to have security cameras all over the place. Fucking retarded pair of oxygen thieves if ever I saw it. This is the state of our game? THIS? Fuck off.

Strangely enough, it was something before the match that really got to me. Bluey's record as Kiwis coach, 22 games, 6 victories. Somehow, that was enough to get him the gig to coach the Warriors? Fuck me, it's no wonder the Warriors and Kiwi league are as limp as they are if that's seen as a good enough record for someone to be lauded as The Man. :(
 

leaguejunkie

1st Grade Fringe
Mar 20, 2016
2,522
95% of the team look to focus more on doing mean as pukana in the haka, with the game itself being almost incidental. The game isn't about fucking cultural pride, it's about performing like a team of league players on the field. Then we follow that up with the fucking captain and a senior player snorting coke in a public place that's bound to have security cameras all over the place. Fucking retarded pair of oxygen thieves if ever I saw it. This is the state of our game? THIS? Fuck off.

Strangely enough, it was something before the match that really got to me. Bluey's record as Kiwis coach, 22 games, 6 victories. Somehow, that was enough to get him the gig to coach the Warriors? Fuck me, it's no wonder the Warriors and Kiwi league are as limp as they are if that's seen as a good enough record for someone to be lauded as The Man. :(

I might be entirely offside here but I don't believe that the Kiwi's even deserve to perform a haka pre game. It does nothing for them in terms of lifting their performances and putting fear into the opposition (dare I say it unlike the All Blacks). If anything it makes the Ozzies more determined to assert there dominance and beat us to a pulp.

Maybe the Kiwi's should scrap it and simply walk out on the field ready for battle. Ready to play, as you put it, "like a team of league players on the field." It would send shockwaves throughout the league world as the haka is an integral part of our NZ identity, culture and our game. It is also a spectacle that many love watching. However, I feel they definitely haven't earned the right, with their performances on and off the field, to perform it.

Also agree with Bluey. Nice guy and all I'm sure but had no place being near the Warriors after his abysmal run with the Kiwi's. Speaks volumes about Warrior's management who employed Bluey at the time (maybe banking on his tenure at Leeds more than anything else?).
 

brightman

1st Grade Fringe
May 18, 2012
3,763
Auckland
I might be entirely offside here but I don't believe that the Kiwi's even deserve to perform a haka pre game.
I am partial to opinion but won't forsake culture and heritage for those turkeys, however what REALLY rankles me is that they have the arrogance to go away from a traditional haka and make their own version (which is as shit as their recent results).
 
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Tedster

1st Grade Fringe
Jun 29, 2014
2,037
What annoys me a lot is that again it puts a bad light on league -the yawnion smarty bart farts must be rubbing their hands together with glee when shyte like this happens, just buries league deeper and deeper. In saying that how stupid are they to do this in public - and one being the kiwis captain. Dumb move guys.
 

jonno

Warriors 1st Grader
Jul 13, 2014
9,803
Rugby league isn't a tribal game. It's an industrial game. It has traditionally been played by coal miners and the likes, in NZ and England, with Union being the farmers game here in NZ and the toffs game in England.

Most Aussies like to see themselves as the coal mining type of person, even if they are working in jobs that are nowhere near coal mining. So it's no wonder they love the game.

We're bringing all these athletes in who don't really understand the grit and teamwork that the founders of the game lived with all their lives. Guys who just see it as a path to wealth and want it to be played like basketball, with individual brilliance being the most important skill for victory.

A couple of mega athletes can really boost a team, but they need to be surrounded by gritty, team players. The Aussies have guys who are brilliant, but they all play tough and as a team. That's why they always flog us.

Kerney gave us a brief period where we looked good. But now it's back to business as usual.
 
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Lets Gone

1st Grade Fringe
Aug 22, 2015
343
Not sure how everyone will respond to this but:

IF Bromwich and Proctor are found guilty, tough call but i feel they shouldn't be able to pull on a Kiwis jersey again.

I get people deserve second chances but

1. He is a Captain.
2. Both are from the Storm system (they should know better).
3. They just got hammered by an Australian team.
4. Its a world cup year.

People make mistakes but cocaine please.... if they won the game, i would of been more bias but like come on, as a fan we just got hammered and they want to go do drugs. If i have a bad day at work, i can't just do drugs and hopefully not get caught.

I get they have lives outside of league, but they get paid the money they do cause they are in that spotlight.

If Kidwell follows Kearney in this, they wont be in the world cup side.
 

brightman

1st Grade Fringe
May 18, 2012
3,763
Auckland
People make mistakes but cocaine please.... if they won the game, i would of been more bias but like come on, as a fan we just got hammered and they want to go do drugs. If i have a bad day at work, i can't just do drugs and hopefully not get caught.
I have a theory that perhaps they just couldn't hack it anymore in a Kidwell coached Kiwis so they did it knowingly in view of CCTV to deliberately escape further selection..

yeah but hard to argue with your opinion, how sad..
 
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Whiteknight

1st Grade Fringe
Apr 30, 2016
324
Auckland
Not sure how everyone will respond to this but:

IF Bromwich and Proctor are found guilty, tough call but i feel they shouldn't be able to pull on a Kiwis jersey again.

I get people deserve second chances but

1. He is a Captain.
2. Both are from the Storm system (they should know better).
3. They just got hammered by an Australian team.
4. Its a world cup year.

People make mistakes but cocaine please.... if they won the game, i would of been more bias but like come on, as a fan we just got hammered and they want to go do drugs. If i have a bad day at work, i can't just do drugs and hopefully not get caught.

I get they have lives outside of league, but they get paid the money they do cause they are in that spotlight.

If Kidwell follows Kearney in this, they wont be in the world cup side.

Fucktards, all three of them, am including skd in with the other two idiots
 

Dunedin warrior

1st Grade Fringe
Nov 10, 2014
1,139
I didn't think we were too bad overall. Game plan was an issue we have a slightly better forward pack but JT, Cronk and Smiths kicking game makes it hard to out grind them which seemed to be the plan.

Needed a few offloads and short passes amongst the forwards to put them under more pressure. More variation from our spine would help too they are very predictable at the moment.
 
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Defence

Warriors 1st Grader
May 9, 2012
6,242
I was disappointed we lost but it was hardly a surprise.
We have one professional team (the warriors) and one semi pro team (nswarriors) they have 15 fully professional sides plus another 20 odd semi professional sides playing NSW and qld cup.
Their playing numbers and financial resources dwarf ours they should win 100 times out of a hundred.
To compare it to union it would be akin to Samoa beating the all blacks.
That's what makes the odd win so farking sweet.
I'm not saying we should just resign ourselves to defeat- of course u have to keep moving forward and trying to improve (as we all do in life) but we need to be realistic- it's David v Goliath.
I'm still looking forward to the World Cup and another chance to slay the giant.
Hopefully with a new coach, a new captain and a couple of tweaks to the make up of the side, we can give it a shake.
 

MXRecord

1st Grade Fringe
Apr 8, 2014
410
Wow. So our Kiwi team are more interested in getting fucked up after the game on god know what, than performing on the field.
Bromwich and Proctor should never play for the Kiwis again.
 
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kabkram

1st Grade Fringe
Oct 21, 2015
487
I think the AFL have it right with their 3 strikes policy for 'recreational drugs' , keeping everything in house there by reducing negative media coverage. Except its pretty bloody hard to keep it in house when you're caught on CCTV . I'd call them muppets but that'd be doing a disservice to anyone who likes a finger or 3-4 up the old wazoo.
 

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